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[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by Trriemferent

Im renewing my CCW in January. Is there anything new I need to know?

Reapply online.

Your training provider should give you any updates during the class.

[carabuser]

My renewal took 4 months, even though I submitted application 3 months before my permit expired a little ridiculous for a renewal, and I submitted a SUBSTANTIAL amount of good cause and attached information

[igs]

Originally Posted by carabuser

My renewal took 4 months, even though I submitted application 3 months before my permit expired a little ridiculous for a renewal, and I submitted a SUBSTANTIAL amount of good cause and attached information

Did it take so long because you submitted too much information?

[carabuser]

No, I called and asked them how things were going a little before the 4 month mark and then suddenly it started soon after that and I got it the next week

[igs]

Originally Posted by carabuser

No, I called and asked them how things were going a little before the 4 month mark and then suddenly it started soon after that and I got it the next week

Do they just leave apps sitting there until the applicant calls???

[carabuser]

I can’t say for sure that they leave them there until you call, but it sure seemed like that in my case, this was a second renewal after the original CCW application, so I’ve been in they’re “system” for a while

[Flexipino]

Initial CCW application submitted Dec. 7th, Interview set for April 20th.

I was told to take of my livescan asap then wait to take the training/class

[mamono]

Originally Posted by Flexipino

Initial CCW application submitted Dec. 7th, Interview set for April 20th.

I was told to take of my livescan asap then wait to take the training/class

The reason why they tell you to wait to take the training class is because of two reasons: wait to take the training until you get initial approval and the training/qualification certificate can expire. If you don’t get initial approval, no point in paying for the training class.

[GunnEnvy]

Originally Posted by mamono

The reason why they tell you to wait to take the training class is because of two reasons: wait to take the training until you get initial approval and the training/qualification certificate can expire. If you don’t get initial approval, no point in paying for the training class.

Sorry I have a dumb question. Is the initial approval after the interview? Thx


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[MajorCaliber]

Originally Posted by GunnEnvy

Sorry I have a dumb question. Is the initial approval after the interview? Thx

Yes, they have to interview you before they approve you.

[splaturn]

My renewal took 145 days to complete (well, a bit longer since they wanted add'l documentation, but 145 days from submitting to hearing back from the processor). When I emailed the licensing unit at the 58 day mark, they said it'd take 90-120 days. So YMMV.

In total (because personal life and school/finals, I didn't send the documentation off right away) it took about 160 days from submitting to them telling me to call in and pay over the phone.

If you're due for a renewal soon, it wouldn't be a bad thing to check in and see how long it's been taking them and to just submit a little earlier than the 90 days they suggest you wait until.

[carabuser]

160 days for a renewal is ridiculous, there is no reason for this, sheriff is not bound by the same restrictions as a “regular” police agency, any law abiding citizen that qualifies and takes a course should get quicker approval than what os happening now, and 2 years ? when you have to apply 4 months before your license expires, is just ridiculous

[Yodaman]

Originally Posted by carabuser

160 days for a renewal is ridiculous, there is no reason for this, sheriff is not bound by the same restrictions as a “regular” police agency, any law abiding citizen that qualifies and takes a course should get quicker approval than what os happening now, and 2 years ? when you have to apply 4 months before your license expires, is just ridiculous

Relax. They are hitting staffing issues just like everyone else. Sure it would be great if faster but you don't know the circs of everyone's app.


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[carabuser]

Well yea, I guess I am just venting, but every two years ? when the 2A and me being a law abiding citizen should be enough, but alas we are in CA … my fault I need to get out of here, sad though since I was born here and am 62 years old

[igs]

Originally Posted by carabuser

160 days for a renewal is ridiculous

A right delayed is a right denied.

[tpowell59]

I submitted my renewal 2 months ago. Online status it still says waiting to be assigned to a processor.

Emailed and they said the current time for renewal is 5 months.

I guess CCWs are not a high priority.

[carabuser]

And last time I looked, they won’t let you apply any sooner than 4 months, so even if you apply the soonest you can, you will be without a license for a month, hope we don’t need our guns in that “month” if we are outside our homes …

[socal m1 shooter]

Originally Posted by tpowell59

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Emailed and they said the current time for renewal is 5 months.

Possibly longer in 2022. CTH is speculating the feds will soon require a negative COVID test before folks are clear to return to work. I would expect the OCSD will not be immune, no pun intended.

[MajorCaliber]

Originally Posted by carabuser

And last time I looked, they won’t let you apply any sooner than 4 months, so even if you apply the soonest you can, you will be without a license for a month, hope we don’t need our guns in that “month” if we are outside our homes …

It does not seem to be than any of the So Cal counties I monitor have really done a great job anticipating the effect of the rush of renewals that inevitably follows 2 years after loosing restrictions. Basic math says that if your department can process X new applications per month, and assuming it takes roughly half as much staff time to process a renewal as a new application, the maximum number of valid permits you can have in your county at any time is 48X. At that point, all available processing capacity is taken up by processing renewals, and there is no available time to process any new applications.

[igs]

Originally Posted by tpowell59

Emailed and they said the current time for renewal is 5 months.

Is it 5 months or 2 months?

Originally Posted by RooftopDefender

Well, my brother got his OC CCW permit this week. The process took 2 months.

[jrkleinow]

I have been reading through a lot and used the search function and can not find the answer.

I currently live in Long Beach but we are looking to move to OC within the next 2-4 months (frankly we can't stand LA county anymore). With that said

Would you recommend I wait to apply in OC until I move or apply now in LA county?

Gut tells me to wait for OC for several reasons but any thoughts are appreciated.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by jrkleinow

I have been reading through a lot and used the search function and can not find the answer.

I currently live in Long Beach but we are looking to move to OC within the next 2-4 months (frankly we can't stand LA county anymore). With that said

Would you recommend I wait to apply in OC until I move or apply now in LA county?

Gut tells me to wait for OC for several reasons but any thoughts are appreciated.

Wait till you are here. You will need to upload proof of residency on the app.

[jrkleinow]

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

Wait till you are here. You will need to upload proof of residency on the app.

Saw that, will take a while as will want to change over DL as well. Appreciate the quick response, thank you 9cal.

[9Cal_OC]

Renewal Timeline for a close friend:
11/02 Submitted
11/11 OCSD sent reminder to apply
01/08 Refunded since she paid online
01/13 Additional docs requested
01/18 Approved and paid
01/21 Delivered in mailbox

[MajorCaliber]

Originally Posted by jrkleinow

I have been reading through a lot and used the search function and can not find the answer.

I currently live in Long Beach but we are looking to move to OC within the next 2-4 months (frankly we can't stand LA county anymore). With that said

Would you recommend I wait to apply in OC until I move or apply now in LA county?

Gut tells me to wait for OC for several reasons but any thoughts are appreciated.

There is no chance of your getting an L.A. permit in the next 4 months if you have not submitted your application yet, so you are stuck waiting until you get to O.C. and starting then.

[Guninator]

Originally Posted by Yodaman

Relax. They are hitting staffing issues just like everyone else. Sure it would be great if faster but you don't know the circs of everyone's app.

Bull****. This is ridiculous. They should hire more people.

This is exactly why we need SCOTUS to make CCW an unambiguous right.

[Yodaman]

Originally Posted by Guninator

Bull****. This is ridiculous. They should hire more people.

This is exactly why we need SCOTUS to make CCW an unambiguous right.

Relax. They are doing better than most places in CA.

No one is arguing with the second part of your statement that I have heard of.


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[Jaywalker]

Anyone familiar with complications for Active Duty Military obtaining CCW in Orange County? Will be moving there shortly and wanted to gather info.

[Btactical714]

Anybody waiting for a amendment more then 190 days lol

[.44]

I had a CCW in OC over 4 years ago, I've since moved out of state. I saw on the forums that the OC Sheriff website has since moved to a new "Permitium" application system. Years ago we submitted an application, waited for approval, THEN did the training course. This new system only lets someone submit an application once proof of training is uploaded.

What are your options now if you want to wait for approval before shelling out application fee and training course money?

Do good cause documents need to be uploaded at time of initial application submission? It used to be good cause documents were only brought in person to the appointment

[MajorCaliber]

Originally Posted by .44

I had a CCW in OC over 4 years ago, I've since moved out of state. I saw on the forums that the OC Sheriff website has since moved to a new "Permitium" application system. Years ago we submitted an application, waited for approval, THEN did the training course. This new system only lets someone submit an application once proof of training is uploaded.

If that's true, I believe that violates state law. I think that the law requires them to make a GC determination prior to requiring training. Did you see some policy to that effect or is that just how their implementation of Permitium seems to be working?

[.44]

Originally Posted by MajorCaliber

If that's true, I believe that violates state law. I think that the law requires them to make a GC determination prior to requiring training. Did you see some policy to that effect or is that just how their implementation of Permitium seems to be working?

Upon further review of their Permitium system it states the training is not required at time of submission of the application.

[geedavell]

Originally Posted by .44

Upon further review of their Permitium system it states the training is not required at time of submission of the application.

It's not. The training cert is only good for 4 or 5 weeks i believe.
If your interview takes longer then that, you have to take the class over again.
I took my class one week before my interview.

[mamono]

Originally Posted by geedavell

It's not. The training cert is only good for 4 or 5 weeks i believe.
If your interview takes longer then that, you have to take the class over again.
I took my class one week before my interview.

My training cert was good for 6 months, though my renewal took 4 months.

[Dvrjon]

Originally Posted by .44

I had a CCW in OC over 4 years ago, I've since moved out of state. I saw on the forums that the OC Sheriff website has since moved to a new "Permitium" application system. Years ago we submitted an application, waited for approval, THEN did the training course. This new system only lets someone submit an application once proof of training is uploaded.

What are your options now if you want to wait for approval before shelling out application fee and training course money?

Do good cause documents need to be uploaded at time of initial application submission? It used to be good cause documents were only brought in person to the appointment

The law seems clear.

CA PC 26165. (a) For new license applicants, the course of training for issuance of a license under Section 26150 or 26155 may be any course acceptable to the licensing authority that meets all of the following criteria:
[...]
(e) The applicant shall not be required to pay for any training courses prior to the determination of good cause being made pursuant to Section 26202.

This doesn't prohibit applicants from undertaking training prior to GC determination to get a "jump" on the system, but there are two risks in that:
1. You may be denied GC and you are out the cost of training.
2. Your IA may have a shelf-life on training certs and they could expire prior to getting through the GC process.

[nevinnj]

Submitted amendment today to remove and add firearms. Wonder how long this will take haha.

[MightyMoose10]

Originally Posted by nevinnj

Submitted amendment today to remove and add firearms. Wonder how long this will take haha.

Approximately 4 months for me. Wasn't fun.

[GunnEnvy]

Originally Posted by MightyMoose10

Approximately 4 months for me. Wasn't fun.

Do you already have your CCW? Or was it to modify your registered firearms?


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[mike_in_ca]

I had a modification (add a gun ) on my current CCW just under 4 weeks.

[.44]

Is it possible to just get a security guard license so we can open carry 24/7?

/sarcasm