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09-21-2018, 10:49 PM
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Why do all the shooting ranges in Sacramento require you to have a gun to rent fire arms or you need someone 21 or over to be with you I'm 24 but I dont have no one to go with me and this will be my 1st fire arm is there any ranges in Sacramento that dont require this
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09-21-2018, 11:10 PM
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09-22-2018, 12:11 AM
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My wife has a M&P shield, 380 easy. Her left side is compromised so she needs something easy to rack, load and shoot. She qualified and will be getting her CCW in a few months, It can take up to 4 months in Nevada.
By the way, that comes with or without a manual safety.
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09-22-2018, 6:30 AM
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But the reality is that while I do respect Mongoose's handgun knowledge, it remains an opinion that's right for both of us but might be all wrong for others.
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09-22-2018, 6:42 AM
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09-22-2018, 7:20 AM
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That’s an unfortunate problem. You should probably start with finding a club that does first gun classes with a rental firearm. That would be a way to find shooting buddies to go rent and try guns with. Andrew - Lancaster, CA NRA Life Member, Calguns.net contributor, CGF / SAF / CRPA / FPC / USCCA member
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09-22-2018, 7:29 AM
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I have had two Springfield EMP’s and both were disasters out of the box. SACS (Springfield customer service) fixed both such that they work. I kept the second one because the barrel of the first was not fit correctly (their solution was to change the link and let the barrel ride on it).
Just know what you are getting into with the EMP. Get the ejector pinned since the glue will eventually fail and then you will be like me trying to get a live round out of the gun...it was exciting. The MIM trigger parts may or may not last if you have a trigger job, according to two gunsmiths I consulted better parts should be used. They said they would do it on the MIM parts but it may develop issues 5-10k rounds down the line. If cost is an issue, that $350 Shield or a Glock 26 may be better choices for the budget.
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09-22-2018, 7:33 AM
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09-22-2018, 7:38 AM
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09-22-2018, 7:43 AM
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Here is a trick: Find a range that has NRA Basic Pistol or other NRA classes. Call them a d explain the situation. I have never once seen an instructor fail to come up with a gun for a student.
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09-22-2018, 7:56 AM
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09-22-2018, 12:32 PM
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Too many people have walked into ranges, rented a gun, and gone back to the line and blown their head off. The ranges and customers don't like it, so the ranges instituted a policy that you have to either be a member of the range, bring your own gun, or come in with another person over 21.
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09-22-2018, 12:49 PM
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09-22-2018, 1:38 PM
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Take a basic firearms class that includes rental.
Look up: Shooting ranges nearby. Make a few phone calls. Go to a local gun store if possible for your first purchase. If you buy a gun and do not like it, you can usually sell it here and not lose much money. You will not get a full refund after you shoot the gun so decide what you want first. Zero friends? What about relatives or co-workers? M&P Shield & Glock 19 are well rated, but you need to try them out before you buy. My wife can shoot my G19 and she is not strong and her hands are not large. She prefers my CZ SP-01, but that is not a carry gun typically. She can also shoot my .357 magnum, but it took some range time for her to get comfortable. You sound like you have not shot much, if any. Learn first, please.
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09-22-2018, 1:47 PM
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Family dont want to go same with coworkers yeah but I f i do that i am still getting ripped off all the gun ranges say to rent a firearm you have to bring yours or you need two people wish the ranges were like Nevada
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09-22-2018, 1:53 PM
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It's not rocket science. Or just buy the 9mm Shield and you'll like it.
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09-22-2018, 4:01 PM
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blah blah blah... You're not listening. Take a lesson from an instructor that works for the range, or, one who works out of that range.
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09-22-2018, 5:45 PM
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$500 or less
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09-22-2018, 6:01 PM
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Here....
Try this: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1448719 Whole package, good price. It's a .40 cal, so it'll be a little snappy, but more effective than 9mm.
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09-22-2018, 6:16 PM
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9mm https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...1+9mm+%2BP+3.5
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09-22-2018, 7:35 PM
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Wow...
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09-22-2018, 8:37 PM
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Trolololololololo
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09-22-2018, 9:44 PM
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What is q good ccw gun
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You tell them which local FFL to ship it to, pay shipping, pay local FFL for transfer fee (not limited by law, ask them first, whatever they want to charge), and pay CA taxes, and still wait 10 days (11 depending on store release policy). Unless you cannot find the model of gun you want locally, do not order it from a web vendor, especially since some do not really understand California approved handgun for sale roster requirements and you could end up paying a shipping and restocking fee to send the gun back when the local FFL cannot transfer it to you. For you first gun, find it in a store and buy it there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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09-23-2018, 9:05 AM
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Go here: https://thegunrange.biz/guide-to-get...alifornia-ccw/
Read the webpage. Go to the range and learn. Take a basic pistol class and shoot some pistols. DO YOUR HOMEWORK. If you are too lazy, stupid, or unwilling to research what works for YOU, go to the nearest gun shop and buy a Shield in 9mm. It's extremely popular for a reason. Both my wife and I carry them most of the time. You won't save money online most of the time - the savings get eaten up by the FFL's transfer fee, and you'll have to pay sales tax even on mail-order guns. Realize that applying for a CCW and getting a CCW are two very different things. Given your approach to the purchase of a gun, I strongly doubt you will be approved for a permit. If you get denied, and lose interest in shooting your pistol, you will be able to sell a Shield 9 easier than most other models. They are very popular.
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09-23-2018, 1:51 PM
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Shield for me. Much easier and more accurate than Ruger LCR Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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09-23-2018, 3:51 PM
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And you still have to pass the class... I doubt that is going to happen.
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