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Old 07-28-2021, 5:59 AM
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well my FIL didn't want to get the vaccine he is one week in the hospital with covid pneumonia and my mil took the vaccine and her symptoms were mild. The vaccine protects you from severe sickness what cant people understand.
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Old 07-28-2021, 6:10 AM
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well my FIL didn't want to get vaccine he is one week in the hospital with covid pneumonia and my mil took the vaccine and her symptoms were mild. The vaccine protects you from severe sickness what cant people understand.
I'm young and healthy. I will have a sniffle at worst and have nothing to fear. Just like 99.98% of the population.

The elderly/sick/obese are welcome to take the faux vaccine.
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well my FIL didn't want to get vaccine he is one week in the hospital with covid pneumonia and my mil took the vaccine and her symptoms were mild. The vaccine protects you from severe sickness what cant people understand.
That’s a pretty lame statement. I’ve known a bunch of families in that same situation with no vax (various levels of severity), so your post doesn’t really mean anything…
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Not a study but it's a concern for the advisory group to the UK government.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/public...se-7-july-2021

Sorry - I was traveling.

You didn’t quite the whole thing

“9. There are four major risks associated with high numbers of infections. These are an increase in hospitalisations and deaths, more ‘Long-COVID’; workforce absences (including in the NHS); and the increased risk of new variants emerging. The combination of high prevalence and high levels of vaccination creates the conditions in which an immune escape variant is most likely to emerge. The likelihood of this happening is unknown, but such a variant would present a significant risk both in the UK and internationally.”

They are saying this is an issue with higher infection rates, not higher vaccination rates.


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Sorry - I was traveling.

You didn’t quite the whole thing

“9. There are four major risks associated with high numbers of infections. These are an increase in hospitalisations and deaths, more ‘Long-COVID’; workforce absences (including in the NHS); and the increased risk of new variants emerging. The combination of high prevalence and high levels of vaccination creates the conditions in which an immune escape variant is most likely to emerge. The likelihood of this happening is unknown, but such a variant would present a significant risk both in the UK and internationally.”

They are saying this is an issue with higher infection rates, not higher vaccination rates.


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Old 07-29-2021, 3:54 AM
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You are correct about the combination part.

But isn’t the issue that while vaccinations continue, high rates of infection among unvaccinated allow variants to continue to emerge?


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just ban illness and the problem will go away
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just ban illness and the problem will go away
well they banned guns in Chicago and shooting deaths and murders dropped to less than Covid deaths...

wait... hang on...

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You are correct about the combination part.

But isn’t the issue that while vaccinations continue, high rates of infection among unvaccinated allow variants to continue to emerge?
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