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Old 07-21-2021, 11:23 AM
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Old question but did not find via search - What is the hive's opinion on:


1 lower and several uppers i.e., .224/.300bo/7.62.39/.....
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complete rifles for each caliber?


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Depends on your budget. If you can't afford complete rifles in each caliber, that's your answer. But it should only be temporary.


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Old question but did not find via search - What is the hive's opinion on:


1 lower and several uppers i.e., .224/.300bo/7.62.39/.....
OR
complete rifles for each caliber?


Thank you in advance.
Either or. If you want to play musical chairs with uppers you may need different weight buffers and action springs as well. Cover the variables when changing calibers.

*The x39 may need a heavier hammer spring too.
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Old question but did not find via search - What is the hive's opinion on:


1 lower and several uppers i.e., .224/.300bo/7.62.39/.....
OR
complete rifles for each caliber?


Thank you in advance.
The goal is to have so many uppers and lowers that you can't keep track of them so it really doesn't matter.

I tend to go with complete rifle for each, however there's a certain amount of "swapability" depending on how well the function of the two matches up.

For example, a 20" HB upper with 6 to 24X scope isn't going to mate well with a GAU 5 type collapsible stock. Nor a 14.5" pinned or 16" LW with irons or a 1 to 4X on a fixed Magpul stock with a single stage trigger. I would say configuration matters more than caliber.
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You can buy complete lowers with Magpul furniture from PSA right now for $149

They are blems, but who cares
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You can buy complete lowers with Magpul furniture from PSA right now for $149

They are blems, but who cares
Is PSA shipping complete lowers to CA again?
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Old 07-21-2021, 12:52 PM
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Is PSA shipping complete lowers to CA again?
No idea, but isn’t there a guy in AZ who will ship to CA?

I think his name is audiophil2
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Old question but did not find via search - What is the hive's opinion on:


1 lower and several uppers i.e., .224/.300bo/7.62.39/.....
OR
complete rifles for each caliber?


Thank you in advance.
No hive here really. People do different things.

I'd love to have a lower for all uppers, but I do not. I have a 9mm conversion with a magwell adapter installed and just thinking about it annoys me... I have to uninstall the adapter with tools to switch back to 556. But the bulk of my uppers I have stacked up are all the same caliber so no huge deal.

It could be as simple as your buying routine. If you want complete rifles, always buy the lower and assemble it before you buy another upper... or at least pickup the right number of lowers and parts kits.
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Old question but did not find via search - What is the hive's opinion on:


1 lower and several uppers i.e., .224/.300bo/7.62.39/.....
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complete rifles for each caliber?


Thank you in advance.
Yes to all.
Then add more.
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No hive here really. People do different things.

I'd love to have a lower for all uppers, but I do not.
I need to work on getting a few more uppers. My problem is jumping on every Palmetto meme lower and $80 MOE build kit they had.
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I need to work on getting a few more uppers. My problem is jumping on every Palmetto meme lower and $80 MOE build kit they had.
I did that a lot with complete lowers and BCG's and optics maybe five years ago including SCR's, etc... and more recently went nuts on uppers including LaRue's, PSA FN CHF, etc...Redundancy is good, but you won't have to outfit the whole block. AR's have a nice system it's easy to toss money into and justify.
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You can buy complete lowers with Magpul furniture from PSA right now for $149

They are blems, but who cares
I am California at the moment so PSA won't ship lowers.
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Yes to all.
Then add more.
This appears to be the best option, especially after my tragic boating accident.
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All of the above. Complete rifles and spare uppers and lowers as backups
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I have 1 featureless lower and 2 5.56 uppers. Thinking about adding a 6.8 upper, don't personally see a need for a different lower.
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Standard calguns answer is : BOTH
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I’d start with 5 lowers and 1 upper. Put all 5 lowers on one dros to save money.
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I started with a couple lowers and a bunch of uppers. Latent OCD got the better of me so built out for all complete rifles.

Found a couple uppers I really liked ... two weeks later I got lowers for them.

It's a curse. But I have complete rifles.
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I have more uppers than lowers, but each upper only goes on a particular lower.
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Do whatever makes sense for you at the time. I started with a single rifle, then built a spare upper in 6.5 Grendel. Eventually that Grendel found a permanent home on a dedicated lower and became a complete rifle. Then I started a new upper build. Bought a few lowers. Built a few uppers. It's a vicious cycle.

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that was me. started with 2 lowers ---> 2 uppers ---> more lowers ---> more uppers ---> lots of spare parts.
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In California it makes since to have one or two lowers you use with all your uppers. When I was there I had one featureless and one blocked, I used seven different uppers with them. What upper was used with what lower depended on the features on the upper. All other lowers where disassembled and stored away, when I moved I built seven complete rifles.
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Old question but did not find via search - What is the hive's opinion on:

1 lower and several uppers i.e., .224/.300bo/7.62.39/.....
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complete rifles for each caliber?

Thank you in advance.
It has nothing with the "hive's opinion".

What matters is whether you're poor or have the $$$.
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get complete rifles, an upper is nothing but a piece of steel sitting in you safe unless it is attached to a lower.
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AR's are so interchangeable you can always add more uppers or lowers... there has never really been a rush since a few bans ago. This time for sure though

Like someone else got into, there are reasons you cannot mix and match all your uppers and lowers. If you have all featureless that simplifies it, and the old RAW lowers are like gold. IMHO.

I will pick up maybe 3-5 more lowers eventually. What stopped me before was FFL's being greedy as pigs around here.
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I'm going against the flow, I suggest pick one caliber and keep one AR, or at least don't buy anymore!

Our FFL situation is changing in this state and in near future we won't have as many. That means private party transfers are going to harder to do and you're guns are going to be harder to sell reducing their monetary value.

We already can't mail order ammo so without FFL's to ship to we won't be able to get ammo. No ammo means you're guns don't have value.

If I'm wrong you'll be able to buy more in the future but if I'm right you'll thank me!
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Yep, agree with most of you - until i leave Kalifornia - purchasing is is flux.
I will stick with the personalized lower, i.e., trigger and featureless grip and grab just a couple of uppers for the most available calibers. Will probably do the same with my AP ar-10 lower - I hear some folks even make bolt action distance shooter uppers for them
Thanks all - hive and non-hive
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