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Embedded Youtube videos displayed as blank spaces in Calguns posts?
Recently, my iMac automatically updated itself to the latest versions of macOS (Big Sur Version 11.6) and Safari (Version 15.0.)
After the update; when I viewed the Calguns posts, all the embedded Youtube videos were displayed as blank spaces... For example, if you could see the Youtube video below, all I could see was just a blank space on my screen. Any CG tech guru can shed some light on it? Thanks! |
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iOS 15 seems to have done away with the non-html5 player widget (inside of iOS).
That means CGN has to upgrade their plugin to serve the html5 version of the player to iOS 15 (and above) devices. Given the age of the forum software, this will have to be a hack into the old YT forum plugin. |
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MacOS is not yet IOS.
It still may be true that Safari 15 does not like the youtube whatsit from Calguns, though. axhoaxho, have you tried a different browser? Last edited by Librarian; 09-24-2021 at 9:52 PM.. |
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Safari is the same across both products, though. And that’s where the player widget code lives on the client side, by default. The old-style Safari widget emulated Flash Video, and that’s been removed.
Here’s the doc on what needs fixing: https://developers.google.com/youtube/player_parameters The current plug-in generates the following for the above video: Code:
<object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="https://www.youtube.com/v/WzHG-ibZaKM"> <embed src="https://www.youtube.com/v/WzHG-ibZaKM" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"> </object> Code:
<iframe id="ytplayer_WzHG-ibZaKM" type="text/html" width="425" height="350" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WzHG-ibZaKM?autoplay=0&origin=https://calguns.net" frameborder="0"></iframe> |
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On my MacBook Pro it works okay (which still has the older versions of Big Sur Version 11.5.2 and Safari 14.1.2.) -- I can see the embedded Youtube videos in Calguns posts. |
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Well, as Robotron2k84 suggests, the fix on Calguns' end is likely rather far in the future, so some work-around looks to be the answer. I'd expect the full migration to some other platform makes more sense than trying to patch this version of vBulletin.
I'm using Firefox 87 on my Macbook Pro; I found that Firefox 91 screwed up Calguns quite bit, so went to a backup and downgraded. Might be a similar implementation situation, though I did not happen to look at embedded youtube with 91. Thanks for the research, Robotron2k84. |
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Depending on how far back you wish to support for browser versions, site management could just make the change to serve every YT video with the new player and make a fairly small change in the couple of files that inject the player code.
You could also probably drop the iframe ID without consequence if you never intend to use DOM actions to alter them after the page loads. Something to think about. |
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What sucks to me is..... all I see is just a blank space in the post..... even if I right click it, it wouldn't show the URL of the embedded Youtube video..... so I have no way to watch the video even if I want to copy the URL to another tab.
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Quote the message and you will see the URL. Copy then cancel quote.
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I haven't seen any real solution yet... I still cannot view Youtube in Safari 15.0... so far I just use the 'Quote-Copy-URL' trick that Marauder2003 suggested at above...
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The fix needs to happen from the Calguns side. Flash video (and flash itself) is dead, gone and buried. Embedding flash video format, even though YouTube is still serving it, is problematic as more browsers phase out flash support. Eventually YouTube will stop serving it, as well.
Content-wise, Adobe and Apple have stopped supporting encoding for flash video, and now only support web-capable versions of their codecs. The lowdown, is that this site needs to change the method of serving the video links, to bring functionality up to current standards. Browsers, since 2016, have all supported html5 video and MP4/H.264, so it’s not asking that much to switch everyone over. I provided the new format for the forum plug-in to serve. It’s now just up to site management if they want to make the change in the short-term, or upgrade to new forum software and jump ahead. |
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is the plug-in easier, more complicated, what's the story? |
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vB 3 came out in 2004; 3.8 before 2009 (can't easily find the actual release date). |
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Yikes, that's going way back. Definitely risky.
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For a PHP-fluent dev, it’s a five minute edit to a couple of files that templatize the player code.
I don’t believe that anything more than the video ID is stored in the database (with the post text), so the PHP file(s) that construct and inject the player HTML code are all that this change would entail. |
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Side note: I used to supervise programmers making fixes - 'it's just a five minute fix' is about as terrifying a thing to say as I can imagine in that context.
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Another favorite is: "All you gotta do is..."
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Researching this a little more, admin can do the following (example):
Navigate to: Admin CP -> Custom BB Codes -> Add New BB Code Title - YouTubeHTML5 Tag - youtube5 replacement: Code:
<iframe id="ytplayer_{param}" type="text/html" width="425" height="350" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/{param}?autoplay=0&origin=https://www.calguns.net" frameborder="0"></iframe> |
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Let’s get this done. I have upgraded my iPad to 15.0.2 and it is now affecting me.
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Yes, if we can get this fixed me love you long time.
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Is there a translation of the above for us non-geeks?
I have been upgrading my Mac OS (11.6)/Safari (v15.0) and noticed the YT missing last night. I also discovered the "quote" button copy/paste method of viewing. I also noticed that in my address bar calguns is shown as being "not secure" This gonna cause a problem? |
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Newer software, including Safari 15, may support only the HTML5 standard for some or many features. That's the case with youtube players. So, net effect is Calguns old software no longer works with parts of newer software. Yes, there are plans to upgrade the forum software. No, I do not know when that might happen - it will be a Big Deal, so Kestryll (who owns Calguns) will eventually provide more information, and I would expect a service interruption of a few days, but I'm not involved in that project, so I do not know.
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Hopefully any update will include software that resizes HUGE uploaded pics to 1024x768 or so. Would help on server storage space, too.
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Just wanted to chime in, there are more and more people experiencing this glitch.
Thanks Robotron for letting us know this thread exists. I'll be hoping for an update possibly.... Thanks Librarian for looking into it!
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Adding an additional BB tag as Robotron2k84 suggests (and provided a code snippet for) seems like pretty low hanging fruit and innocuous. If it doesn’t work it’s easily removed or ignored. Why not at least try it? (30+ year IT veteran here)
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I have the same issue.
So now when I post a video, I try to remember to also post link. Such as… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ Just click the link and it takes you direct to the video.
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