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I guess I’m thick and can’t figure out the result of the vote and what the next steps are. Help?
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Seriously if you are in CA, MA, NY, NJ, HI, MD etc and can't get a CCW due to no fault of your own, you should be supporting this as you will actually be able to practice you right if it passes without changing the language.
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32:52 according to the text search
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The search results on Google are so slanted it's not funny. Fear mongering like I've never seen, and the one article that shows up from a pro rights source talks about voting against hr38 due to the poison pill.
"Thank you for using google's social engineering service..." |
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If you think you know better than they, go for it!!!
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Fix NICS does not grant any agency the power to adjudicate anything! It mandates that agencies properly report persons as prohibited, that have already been "adjudicated". |
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The only thing in support of your claim is a Fox News soundbite that is directly contrary to the clear wording in the bill regarding the protections for magazines specifically being classified as "handguns", and wording that explicitly prevents a state or local law enforcement organization from making an arrest or detaining someone who is carrying a ""handgun"" for "ANY" law pertaining to the possession, carrying, or transportation of a firearm. Proving "legislative intent" that overwrites the clear language of the bill based on a 10 second news soundbite is dubious at best. |
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Since you thought all discussion was what was discussed in committee, that makes me feel more confident you know less than you think. Quote:
But I fully support your right to be a test case if the bill doesn't get changed on that issue and it gets signed into law. Then, if you truly believe what you say, Go for it!!!
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If you have some other interpretation of the bill that disagrees with mine, outline it. Otherwise stop spouting nonsense. Quote:
Either provide and explain your alternate interpretation of this bill that backs your earlier assertion so it can be judged on its merits, or admit that you were wrong. |
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And, of course, it’s quite right that when the plain language of the bill is clear, no consideration is given to intent. Last edited by CalAlumnus; 12-05-2017 at 7:20 PM.. |
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I also agree, when it comes to self defense rights the states need to be completely out of the equation.
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I trust the Congressman who said in a press interview -- here I'm assuming he's not lying -- he consulted with both legislative counsel and the Judiciary Committee about his legislative intent and I do not assume he only discussed non-resident permits with them. I'll let you argue with him if you disagree with what he said. Unless you plan on sharing your insights with Rep. Hudson or Congress, you're just shouting into the wind. I was just sharing with CGNers the Congressman's statements about issues they raised.
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The gun articles are going to be skewed to the left because that is what people are reading. Don't know what else to tell you. |
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If you support HR38 and want to write your US Representative, the NRA-ILA has a convenient e-mail form to fill out:
https://act.nraila.org/composeletters.aspx?AlertID=1824
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What makes the difference is the rules for issuing such permits.
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Latest on this:
https://rules.house.gov/bill/115/hr-38 Looks like they're trying to strip the NICS portion.
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We don't need their permission, the Founding Fathers insured we don't. It's time to reprimanded politicians for violating our rights. I'm ready to work 12 hour shifts on the gallows to rid us of Leftist anti-Americans once and for all.
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Yes and the arbitrary and capricious nature in which May-issue states issue their permits. With enough money you can buy one in NY and CA at least
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Jones-Sawyer worded it far too narrowly... "The legislature sometimes ignores whether or not it's constitutional... we go ahead and make laws because we're california... we do it anyways"
Looks like that statement needs to be expanded to include numerous members of congress |
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But nowadays we don't use gallows for that.
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Thanks to work I missed the last part, did the amendment to restrict it to resident permits only get approved?
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So now what?
This trash is soooo confusing for this Marine!
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Double check me, Kestryll, but No, i dont think so. I didnt hear that specifically, but all amendments i listened to were voted against sucessfully.
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Roger that!
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Hopefully the dems in the senate wont try to add a residency ammendent like they tried to do in the house and failed to do so...and all the republicans will be on board with this...and since its no longer a stand alone bill (NICS), some dems will vote for it too...and most of all PASS!!!
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The proggies in Lost Angles County are going to stay inside their houses with the blinds drawn for days if this gets through the Senate. The local antifa warriors may rethink their tactics. And CA will lose money from people not applying for a CA permit, perhaps.
Sounds fine to me. A three-fer, in fact. |
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