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Old 10-29-2020, 7:35 PM
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I will add my two cents...absolutely no one is immune from the AD/ND or doing something dangerous. Loaded guns are dangerous. All the rules and procedures are great to help mitigate the possibility of doing something where someone gets hurt.

If you have been around guns long enough you are essentially guaranteed to have an unintentional discharge. I've personally had 3 in 45 years of shooting regularly. By benefit of training (and perhaps even dumb luck) the muzzle was always pointed in a safe direction and no on was ever physically hurt.

Its pretty much like riding a motorcycle - there are those who have already gone down, and those who will go down (or down again)

I think it was back in 2008, somebody ND'd in the parking lot at the end of the day and somebody was hit in the leg. The person hit was not seriously hurt. The round must have lost a lot of energy after it hit the ground. The shooter didn't stick around because security and staff spoke to me in the lot the next morning. I guess the person drove a similar vehicle.
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Jedi, was it always like this. I thought I remembered that you could be both late and wrong on the malfunctions. In the same way you can be late and shoot a miss on the target?

It could be my flawed memory though.
For the shooting portion, the saying is "If you're Late, make it Great!" or don't miss so you don't get docked for both.

Malfunctions -you will only get docked for one, not both (late or procedural).
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For the shooting portion, the saying is "If you're Late, make it Great!" or don't miss so you don't get docked for both.

Malfunctions -you will only get docked for one, not both (late or procedural).
Next time I go to a regular class rather than a private, I want to do this again.
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Next time I go to a regular class rather than a private, I want to do this again.
I wonder if I can ask for this to be part of an 8-person private.
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I think it was back in 2008, somebody ND'd in the parking lot at the end of the day and somebody was hit in the leg. The person hit was not seriously hurt. The round must have lost a lot of energy after it hit the ground. The shooter didn't stick around because security and staff spoke to me in the lot the next morning. I guess the person drove a similar vehicle.
We had three ND's in my last class! Two of them were from the same guy!
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We had three ND's in my last class! Two of them were from the same guy!
Other hobbies beckon for that guy.
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For those that have stayed at the Saddle West, what were your impressions? I've stayed at the Best Western and Wine Ridge RV Resort and stayed in one of their basic cottages.

Whats the Saddle West like? As long as it's cheap and clean I'm fine with that. Looking to save a few bucks next time since I'll be coming out my myself for a 2-day skill builder. But if it's nasty and smells like smoke I'll just shell out the extra cash to stay somewhere a bit nicer.
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Other hobbies beckon for that guy.
After his second ND he surrendered his firearm without the RM even asking for it, and went and hung out in his car for a bit for some alone time.
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For those that have stayed at the Saddle West, what were your impressions? I've stayed at the Best Western and Wine Ridge RV Resort and stayed in one of their basic cottages.

Whats the Saddle West like? As long as it's cheap and clean I'm fine with that. Looking to save a few bucks next time since I'll be coming out my myself for a 2-day skill builder. But if it's nasty and smells like smoke I'll just shell out the extra cash to stay somewhere a bit nicer.
I stayed at the Saddle West once. I got a good rate off Expedia or something. The rooms were clean, but dated. Get a room on the top floor if you can. I had a room above me and it sounded like a stampede of elephants upstairs.
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Stayed there once a few years ago, got the 'deluxe' room for a few bucks more a night and it was fine.
Dated
Basic
Clean

Breakfast is free, that was a plus.

Vinnie, what was he doing when he ND'd?
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Stayed there once a few years ago, got the 'deluxe' room for a few bucks more a night and it was fine.
Dated
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Clean

Breakfast is free, that was a plus.

Vinnie, what was he doing when he ND'd?
I can't remember specifically, but I believe once was during a drill where we were supposed to have a mag loaded but nothing in the chamber, and the other time I think we were told to unload completely for dry fire practice and he most likely unloaded the mag but didn't unload the round in the chamber (and his coach also was not paying attention).
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My Saddle West room didn't have any smoke smell inside. When I arrived, there were two ppl smoking outside of their room downstairs. Someone said something to them as it didn't continue. Affirm on the top floor room as you will hear everything above you. I got a "deluxe" room with a mini fridge and it was fine. The main smoke smell is in the casino yet the restaurant isn't bad at all and it is right off the casino. I went the cheaper route and I would stay there again tomorrow if I could.
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For Saddle West - 'Deluxe' room is required if you want a mini fridge and/or coffee maker. Definitely request a 2nd floor room. The deluxe rooms tend to be more clean than regular, but no matter what the carpets are pretty nasty.

My recommendation is that while staying there do not let anything you own touch the floor, including your bare/socked feet. Keep shoes on or wear some sort of 'shower shoes' (for on the carpet) I know at least two people who have acquired foot fungus recently after staying there.

I have stayed there many dozens of times, but I only stay there when I am alone.
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