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View Poll Results: What are your feelings about Front Sight?
Great Training for Beginners Only. 88 8.33%
Great Training Beginner and Advanced. 696 65.85%
The Quality of Training is Going Down Hill. 24 2.27%
I paid too much for my Membership! 47 4.45%
They will go out of business this year! 31 2.93%
Don't want anything to do with them! 171 16.18%
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Old 01-23-2022, 9:20 PM
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I paid a fair bit for 2 Ambassador memberships several years ago. I had a bunch of diamond memberships included with them that I'd planned to gift to friends. Job and health kept me from going, so I planned to go a few times a year after retirement.
After all this, my opinion of Piazza is about the lowest I've ever had for any human. I'm just stunned. Never thought he would go this low, not even close. I thought he had a mission, and I wanted to support that.

Just sick about this.
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Old 01-23-2022, 9:33 PM
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You knew he'd gone low enough to screw people over in the past but didn't think he'd go low enough to screw YOU over?⁸
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Old 01-23-2022, 9:43 PM
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Did anybody read the emails sent out today clarifying some of the restructuring issues? I just skimmed it as Iggy is wordy.
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Old 01-23-2022, 9:59 PM
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You knew he'd gone low enough to screw people over in the past but didn't think he'd go low enough to screw YOU over?⁸
You don't know me, or my thoughts.
No need to go there.
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Old 01-23-2022, 10:03 PM
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Did anybody read the emails sent out today clarifying some of the restructuring issues? I just skimmed it as Iggy is wordy.
Read the last few pages. My settings are 40 posts per page.
Basically all life memberships now require a maintenance fee of $50 per month to keep your membership. Transferring memberships now costs $1K per each, last week was free. More fees for each class, an if you take a class you have to buy your ammunition from their store.
It's a big F U to all those that bought memberships.
He's also got some major rationalization going on.
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Old 01-23-2022, 10:04 PM
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Did anybody read the emails sent out today clarifying some of the restructuring issues? I just skimmed it as Iggy is wordy.
Different tone. Same message.


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I wonder if he's given long term thought to this.

He hoses everyone, especially long time partakers and where is he going to get new ones? Did he consider that now the very thing he wanted to do he has no guaranteed can't be done:

To spread the word and share the memberships he's given us over the years with others...family, friends, coworkers, etc. He will have to start this all over again like he did back in the day when it was new.

The only difference is now he'll have a lot of really upset people telling those same family members, friends and coworkers NOT to go.

I truly hope his next email is something like "April Fools! I was just kidding "

But somehow I doubt that will ever happen.
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Default ***NEW Front Sight Members Check In-Here Thread***

I have created a NEW Front Sight Members Check-In Here thread to take the place of this original thread that has lasted 10 years and you can find it here:

NEW Front Sight Members Check In-Here

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1772437

This original thread has gotten too large and buggy causing multiple posts and slowdowns.

***Mods please lockdown this thread for future posting so that everyone will use the New Thread in its place and we can still refer to this old thread for historical reference.***

Also, there is a new poll!

Thanks, everyone for your support. Hopefully, the NEW thread will last as long as this original even with the latest Front Sight restructuring drama.

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Maybe he's getting rid of memberships so he can sell off the property with no liabilties?
You post here got me thinking. maybe you have a point. If he gets enough people paying the maintenance fees and trying to hang on long enough to get one more class in before throwing in the towel, he may keep things afloat for a very short time until they bail. Then because there were not enough new members close the doors and declare bankruptcy. At that point even if the courts awarded members any compensation he would claim there are only say 5000 members because all the previous members voluntary gave up their memberships.
Who knows? It's hard to figure out a really devious mind.
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Default PLEASE POST IN THE NEW THREAD

PLEASE POST IN THE NEW THREAD LOCATED HERE

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https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1772437

This original thread has gotten too large and buggy causing multiple posts and slowdowns and I am trying to get the Moderators to lock it down.
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