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Someone’s gotta sell these guys guns. SMH
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Disagree. Been trying to teach lewdogg how to hunt. It's like trying to teach Stevee Wonder how to see. Not sure we're ever going to get there.
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That’s funny
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You guys continue to enlighten us as to lewdogg21’s shortcomings. |
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How much time do you have? I'm going to need a lot of time.
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See, the most hilarious thing I've seen so far is the ignorance of some of you. Since some of y'all with poor reading comprehension like making assumptions about strangers on the internet from the safety of a keyboard, please explain my life story, training, experience, time spent hunting in my life, experience in the outdoors. I'll wait...
Once again for those with poo reading comprehension, my original post implies I previously hunted a bit. If any of you want to put assumptions and find yourself in NorCal around my locale, let me know. Otherwise let those with some actual thought out answers speak like I asked for in my original post. |
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OP just end it now. There are a lot of people who like to troll on here. This thread has nothing good to come.
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edit: oooooh nice you edited quick enough for it to not call you on it.
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Hummmm. I thought Lew told me that he tried to train you how to hunt but gave up after 15 minutes. I'll have to check back with him.
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Rule #2: you don’t ask questions on Calguns. |
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My advice is as follows.
Tere Hanges
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A couple of problems but I am sure you will try to blame others.
1) You say if someone is in "NorCal around my locale" but no where have you put your location. Many of us put it in the top right hand part when we joined but I understand you are special and fail to do so. 2) You started with " moral dilemma" with it being a question for a "hunter" or once a "hunter" who quit and now is considering hunting again. Anyone who really hunts or is a real hunter would have no need to even give a second thought. Those that are really into hunting understand the need for it to help balance the eco-system and actually save the animals. If an animal has a monetary value it will continue to live and populations will grow. If none it is history. This is especially true where man has encroached on their habitat in spite of what the libtards, tree-huggers have to say with their feed on the emotion, jerk-knee reactions instead of facts. 3) If you were any kind of a former or present "hunter" you would not have even started this or at least worded it differently. 4) You come into this forum and say something that ANY thinking person who is a HUNTER is going to react in a negative way or worse then argue with all of them because they do not agree with your ideas/thoughts. NOW---I am in NorCal and my town is clearly shown. It is Denair which is near Modesto if you cannot read a map. I am not going to try and explain your life story............. because I DO NOT CARE and consider you a flake....but that is just my opinion which I am entitled to just as you are to yours as pathetic as it looks like in your posts. The ball is in your court bubba. Wonderful you"previously hunted a bit" Must have been(just my guess) a very small bit since you never really learned what hunting means and thus your "moral dilemma" that you want to fight about(in words I hope for your sake). I will be happy to get together and compare "life story, training, experience, time spend hunting in my life, experience in the outdoors" also education, where raised, animals hunted and where, IQ, college/In degrees, firearms, scopes, bullets or cartridges(you do know the difference), loading your own ammo, working on firearms or whatever comes to you. One more thing you have proven here. If you are not a troll you sure come off as one in much of your posts. You want to argue anything brought up including answers to you OP question. Your "reading comprehension" sucks. You do remind me of a libtard lit professor I had to take a class from in college. Insult and shout or put down anyone who has a different thought, way of thinking or point of view than you do. I fully support your right to your opinion......even if it is just plain stupid. But you need to support the others of us with different views be it right of wrong in YOUR mind. You are welcome to look me up. I have time since I am retired. I might even be able to teach you something IF you are opened minded enough to learn. Other than that I really could care less about you or your dilemma that a hunter never has. You also might be smart to just let this thread die because you have done nothing good for yourself or the site so far. That is unless you just want to keep arguing with everyone who tries to answer your question or add to the thread. If you carefully go back and read the posts you will see people answered your "question" several times...........but you just want to argue. Balls in your court BUBBA
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A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt. NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member Last edited by Divernhunter; 03-26-2018 at 7:01 PM.. Reason: corrected the spellin of may to many |
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Divernhunter -
1) Escalon, we can meet any time. 2) The term "real hunter" is relative. Yes there is an economic value attached to some animals but not all. Man did encroach on the habitats which altered ecosystems that almost became necessary to form management groups. So how about we talk about this rather than personal attacks. 3) My wording is pretty clear I asked two questions? 4) I respect everyone's opinion, UNLESS it comes in the form of personal attacks plain and simple. |
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To answer OPs original questions: No and no.
I didn't come from a hunting family. No one I knew hunted. Even coming from the south. I grew up in the 'burbs. I don't feel bad about that. We can't all be authentic 7th generation backwoodsmen. I was vegetarian for 8 years. I didn't find it a big deal. Everyone can do their own thing. I just thought factory farming was depressing. Now? I hunt as much as I can. I eat mostly what I hunt but I like bacon and burgers as much as the next guy. I'll eat weeds and animals and organs people stick their noses up at. I still think factory farming is depressing. /shrug IMO find your peace in the woods. This place isn't for thoughtful conversation. |
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I will be in Oakdale Tues helping with a CCW class. About 5PM. Or Sat at 9AM. Stop by. Or I do shoot at the Escalon club maybe Sun if I go shoot.
You got answers to your questions but they were not the ones you wanted so you argue. It is ok for you to give personal attacks by your mindset. Some of the attacks were just answering your questions but you cannot see that. My comments are what I took from all of what you have posted. You can call them a personal attack if you like. I just call it as I see it and let the chips fall. I really cannot see any value of trying to talk with you about eco-systems or even much else. No one will change your mind on anything judging by what you have shown here. PM me your phone number/name and I will call you when I get over near you since you cannot make it over this way. I personally do not care about you in any way but you are the one pushing things with all others. This is fun. Somehow I do not believe you are open to others or facts so it would be a waste anyones time to deal with you. If you think I am afraid of you or anything else then you are mistaken. The ball is in your court again bubba
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Yep. All mouth and nothing else.
34 posts and most just to argue and attack others. Do everyone including yourself a favor and just go away. Respect for respect and now you know why no one here has any for you. Just go back to your safe space. It has been fun pushing your buttons.
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A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt. NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member Last edited by Divernhunter; 03-27-2018 at 12:58 AM.. |
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Yeah, I think one time my husband asked if anybody had a recipe for some 8 Mauser Mexican match. Lesson learned, lol.
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Get rid of your morals, your dilemma problem is gone.
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Geez I still don't get it . It's not hard to be respectful, unless, you ask a question here lmao
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How about just raise some stock yourself? Skip hunting and the 'factory' meat (have you seen how veggies are raised?) - our steer now rests in the freezer and he is deliciously raised with love, free range, pasture fed.
Turkey, chicken, duck and guinea fowl all practically raise themselves and provide eggs along the way. Win-win no matter how you look at it. While you're at it build a family compound and get back to rural extended family living and help rebuild a real stable country. Urban living is killing all that is good on this earth. Maybe you already are - if not why not? There's a morality question for you.
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I do want property in the future with some sustaining food sources like what you have mentioned. Even a little fish farm, and a small plot for produce/herbs. It's funny that you had mentioned a family compound, my uncle was talking about building small plots on land for family to come whenever they pleased. Family values are sure on the decline these days. |
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I am not against hunting, I am actually wanting to get back into hunting because that is what I feel is most fair for me as a human and my meat consumption. Now another big question is whether to hunt with strictly bow? I feel it is the most fair but also the biggest chance to leave an animal wounded, which comes down to knowing how to accurately use your tool and making correct shots at the right time. Thoughts? |
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And I agree that my values need to be more aligned first, I definitely do not plan on going on a hunt again until I do. What I can tell you is that I most likely will enter back into hunting, I am being drawn back into it. My values have changed a bit over the years but its just means I have to take a calmer, thoughtful approach to make sure my values are more aligned. I hope this helps clarify some things. |
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Agreed, I do like hearing about some of these programs in place where dispatched game in urban areas are harvested and given to homeless shelters, a widespread homeless program with donated game would be really cool.
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You are pretty close, college did have a huge impact on me as I learned how more interrelated everything truly is. I wouldn't say there was any brainwashing (not talking about how information is presented or selected to be in textbooks, we would need a new thread lol), but more confusion. When I was younger it was simply, human and animal, while still acknowledging the animal as a being. Its more complicated now. If anything, I brainwashed my self in a few philosophy courses I have taken, or threw myself into existential crisis a few times And aside from other aspects of hunting or being outdoors in general, I do feel that it is more honorable for the animal and environment if I hunted game myself and am willing to go meatless if I do not fill tags. Also, I totally get that there is a love for hunting with some of the older hunters, you can see it and hear it. For some it may be something that was a larger part of their upbringing, for some it might getting more in tune with your primal tendencies so to speak, for others it might be a way of spending time with your loved ones, or even tradition. For me, it is aligning my values I have learned and experienced over time, with hunting. Hunting skipped a generation in my family and there were lots of values I have had to learn on my own so it wasn't tradition with me. I developed a love so to speak on my first hunting trip for duck and quail with a couple friends and 4-H leader, and had a damn good dinner aside from picking bb's out of my quails. Or even hiking in, I think it was somewhere in D zone all day in full camo, 100 degree +, backpack, and shotgun calling turkeys. It was grueling, I didn't get a Tom, but I had fun as hell just simply being out there. So maybe some of us could relate on that. Thank you for an open-minded answer |
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There is no reason I have to let anything go in a thread that I started. I am not going anywhere, and am damn sure not getting censored by other members because they didn't like how I replied to sarcastic and condescending statements. I'm here for the long haul. See you on the forums.
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If anyone actually wants to help support me getting back into hunting please take a look at my ad for a compound package trade.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1435567 |
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