Arizona CWP Renewal & New Application Processing

[Someday]

Originally Posted by broadside

Mailed my renewal on 12/28/22. With the holidays and such, we'll see how long it takes.

Expires Mar 27, but at least AZ is constitutional carry now, though that screws me with the feds due to the school zones that are down the road from the family I would go visit.

That is the exact reason why I still renew mine. Hopefully you'll get yours before the trip.

[CessnaDriver]

Renewal is in the mail they said. Almost three months for me.
After 75 days you may have to goose them by email.

[Toy4Rick]

I emailed my packet 12/27 and 10 days later it was back at my house requesting an updated doc, not bad... hope they process it as quickly when they get it the second time around

We leave mid Mar on a long trip back east, sure would be nice to have it in hand when we leave

Good luck all

[broadside]

Originally Posted by Toy4Rick

I emailed my packet 12/27 and 10 days later it was back at my house requesting an updated doc, not bad... hope they process it as quickly when they get it the second time around

We leave mid Mar on a long trip back east, sure would be nice to have it in hand when we leave

Good luck all

This is why you get multiple states with overlapping effective dates.

[thethreegs]

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[thethreegs]

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[stag6.8]

Originally Posted by broadside

This is why you get multiple states with overlapping effective dates.

Exactly...this is why I have the Arizona, Utah and Florida permits..overlapping coverage.

[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by thethreegs

Does anyone know if a California ccw training certificate suffices? I mailed a copy of mine bc my California ccw hasn’t been issued yet.

EDIT: Turns out, they don’t. Does anyone know instead of waiting for them to return the packet, if they will accept me sending a copy of my CCW separately so it doesn’t delay my application? Ugh, frustrated I didn’t know they didn’t accept California training.

They accept a CA training cert IF they 'uses instructors who are certified by the national rifle association'.
The requirements are spelled out on their site.
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03112.htm

[broadside]

So I mailed my renewal on 12/28/22 and they postmarked my permit envelope 1/9/23.

That's like a 7 business days if my form arrived right away, including the holiday!

[thethreegs]

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[ezaircon4jc]

DD214's satisfy as training.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by thethreegs

It's not spelled out. Is it an instructor that teaches a course that is not an official NRA course but he is certified NRA instructor considered acceptable? Or does it have to be a course that is an NRA course?

I also want to know if it is possible to send them a copy of the CCW in the mail separately IF they do not accept my training certificate or if I am going to have to wait for them to send back my packet.

It does NOT need to be an NRA course, as long as the course is taught by an NRA instructor. His NRA instructor number should be listed on the certificate. If it’s not, that’s probably why they didn’t accept it.

To answer your second question, yes. It was in the link (list of appropriate training) Lady Ruger posted:

6. A valid current or expired concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or license that is issued by another state or a political subdivision of another state and that has a training or testing requirement for initial issuance.

[Ocdlaw]

Originally Posted by thethreegs

I know a CCW is accepted. I mailed mine well before my CCW will be issued, in hopes of receiving it before my CA one. My California CCW certificate does NOT have an NRA instructor # on it. I am hoping that it is either accepted or if it is not, they will let me send a photocopy of a my CCW which I will be getting next week instead of waiting for them to finally get to my packet and have to wait until they mail it back to me.

I was trying to get my AZ ccw in the mean time since I already had done the training but did not receive my CA ccw yet.

My training certificate for Orange County CCW had no reference to the NRA and they accepted it though I also attached a copy of my CCW.

[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by Ocdlaw

My training certificate for Orange County CCW had no reference to the NRA and they accepted it though I also attached a copy of my CCW.

They accepted your CCW not your training certificate.

[Ocdlaw]

The point is, they knew I had no "NRA" training.

[mej16489]

Originally Posted by Ocdlaw

The point is, they knew I had no "NRA" training.

The don't care if you've had NRA training or not, they care if you meet the statutory requirement needed to issue you an AZ CCW.

Any training from an NRA instructor is grounds for approval of that 'checkbox'
Any issued CCW for which training was required is also grounds for approval for that same 'checkbox'

[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by Ocdlaw

The point is, they knew I had no "NRA" training.

No the point is they used your CCW to meet the requirement NOT your training cert.

Originally Posted by mej16489

The don't care if you've had NRA training or not, they care if you meet the statutory requirement needed to issue you an AZ CCW.

Any training from an NRA instructor is grounds for approval of that 'checkbox'
Any issued CCW for which training was required is also grounds for approval for that same 'checkbox'

Correct. His CCW copy made the training cert irrelevant.

[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by thethreegs

I called the AZ CCW Unit and the woman said my California CCW Training would be accepted. However, when I pressed her further saying there is no NRA Instructor ID # anywhere listed, she finally said that will be needed and my application packet will be returned if it is deemed invalid. Made it sound like it's a crapshoot, based on the mood of whoever happens to be administrating the application.

Quite the silly policy, considering proof of a CA CCW is valid, but the training is not. This is bad for people who want to get their AZ before their CA, since CA can take up to a year.

Forewarning to those looking to apply to AZ before their CA is issued.

There are multiple choices for satisfying the requirement:
N. An applicant shall demonstrate competence with a firearm through any of the following:

1. Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class that is available to the general public, that is offered by a law enforcement agency, a junior college, a college or a private or public institution, academy, organization or firearms training school and that is approved by the department of public safety or that uses instructors who are certified by the national rifle association.

2. Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Arizona game and fish department or a similar agency of another state.

3. Completion of any national rifle association firearms safety or training course.

4. Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class that is offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies or other divisions or subdivisions of law enforcement or security enforcement and that is approved by the department of public safety.

5. Evidence of current military service or proof of honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions from the United States armed forces.

6. A valid current or expired concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or license that is issued by another state or a political subdivision of another state and that has a training or testing requirement for initial issuance.

7. Completion of any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualification to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties.

8. Completion of any other firearms safety or training course or class that is conducted by a department of public safety approved or national rifle association certified firearms instructor.

[stag6.8]

I mailed my renewal for Arizona this past Friday...it expires in 30 days...let's see how long the renewal takes

[CessnaDriver]

As others said, the hologram is gone.
Guess it’s cheaper to make them and counterfeits were just not a concern.

[Helmut]

For you CA CCW holders using that as proof of proficiency. Did you make a copy of the paper permit or the card?

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by Helmut

For you CA CCW holders using that as proof of proficiency. Did you make a copy of the paper permit or the card?

The card, front and back, should suffice.

[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by Helmut

For you CA CCW holders using that as proof of proficiency. Did you make a copy of the paper permit or the card?

Card front and back.
Hubby used his DD214.

[mej16489]

My renewal is in today's outgoing mail - 91 days prior to expiration. IIRC I read someone on the app or the website that they will reject applications for renewal earlier than 90 days.

[broadside]

Originally Posted by stag6.8

I mailed my renewal for Arizona this past Friday...it expires in 30 days...let's see how long the renewal takes

as posted above, mine was received back in under two weeks

[stag6.8]

Originally Posted by broadside

as posted above, mine was received back in under two weeks

That's really quick...I hope I get the same quick turnaround time too.

[SCMA-1]

Mailed August 31 2022, received January 21 2023

[thethreegs]

N/A

[Toy4Rick]

I noted above, new permit was back in just under 2 weeks, I believe it was 13 days

[S45]

New permit was 22 days for me.
When I had called to check on the status the nice lady told me it was approved and “sent out” 5 days prior. This worried me since I hadn’t received it in the mail - I thought it might have been lost.
I’d imagine it was sitting approved in a pile somewhere and she then mailed it after I checked because it then came the following day.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by S45

New permit was 22 days for me.
When I had called to check on the status the nice lady told me it was approved and “sent out” 5 days prior. This worried me since I hadn’t received it in the mail - I thought it might have been lost.
I’d imagine it was sitting approved in a pile somewhere and she then mailed it after I checked because it then came the following day.

You called for an update less than a month in?

[S45]

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

You called for an update less than a month in?

Yes because they cashed my money order and I waited a week and a half for it to show up - when it hadn’t yet, I called.
Plus everyone I knew was getting theirs in 10-20 days.

[stag6.8]

I called the Arizona dps yesterday and did a status check on my renewal. She put me a hold for a minute. When she came back on the phone, she told me my permit would be mailed out today. So I'm estimating the end of this week or early next week. We shall see.

[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by S45

Yes because they cashed my money order and I waited a week and a half for it to show up - when it hadn’t yet, I called.
Plus everyone I knew was getting theirs in 10-20 days.

Just because they cashed your money order does not mean your renewal had been processed. It means they opened the envelope and started the process.

[stag6.8]

I received my Arizona Renewal Permit in the mail today. The turnaround time was 3 weeks...I'm good for another 5 years..

[Ocdlaw]

They also respond to emails.

[wannabefree]

I received a letter yesterday that my license was about to expire in about 10 days. However I had mailed my renewal application in about 3 weeks ago. So I was worried it might not have been received. So I called them up and waited 30 minutes online before I got to talk to someone. I explained my situation and told the girl I would normally not be calling but was concerned that my app might have gotten lost. The Lady was very rude and said yes your app has been received on January 26th. So I said it must be almost ready right she rudely said no its still in backround. I asked how long does that usually take and was told there was a long list and she had no idea. Rather than irritate her any more I just said OK I will just wait since at least I know its in process and hung up.
All of this is way different than the original time I applied 5 yrs ago and counter to what I have been reading here on this forum. I know during Covid they were backed up but based on the reports here it seemed that most apps only take 3 to 4 wks even for the original. This is a renewal and I would have thought it would be easier and faster since they already have me in there system and I am an old fart with no record or anything in my past that would prevent me or should cause any issues.
Its not an urgency since I only need it to travel to Nevada occasionally since my Ca Permit is only good In CA, Plus in Nevada you can carry a loaded firearm in your car with or without a permit you just cant concealed carry in public without one.

[g_gokuss4]

Goodafternoon, printed out the application for AZ and couldnt find any info where to get the fingerprint cards they require. Called Oc sheriff’s dept if they provide the card for finger printing, i was told that i need to being in the card myself. How were you guys able to obtain the fingerprint card for AZ? Thanks in advance 🙏

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by g_gokuss4

Goodafternoon, printed out the application for AZ and couldnt find any info where to get the fingerprint cards they require. Called Oc sheriff’s dept if they provide the card for finger printing, i was told that i need to being in the card myself. How were you guys able to obtain the fingerprint card for AZ? Thanks in advance 🙏

It may be helpful to post your location so people can refer you where to get them.

You can also order them on Amazon.

[Toy4Rick]

I went to UPS, they charge $25 per card, fingerprinting is FREE