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Old 09-20-2022, 7:50 PM
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Default Safe lock, mechanical or electronic?

I'm picking up a new unit. On the fence in regard to lock type. Opinions welcome.
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Electronic with a backup key.
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I only buy mechanical, it’s what I’m comfortable with. Have two safes now with mechanical same combo. I’m in need of another, It will be mechanical also.
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Really personal preference, but also what your access requirements are. Are you going to need quick access in the dark? Electronic is probably better.
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Electronic will always be faster, but with batteries and solenoids, prone to breaking.
Quality manual lock safes have been in service for decades (but they are slow and require the operator to have some patience and precision)
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Mechanical... My Liberty safe originally was optioned with a digital keypad lock. Had them swap it for a mechanical dial lock on delivery.
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Mechanical. What if your neighbor builds a homemade EMP device.
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For security purposes a dial lock is far superior to an electronic lock
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Personal preference, I use electronic on all of my safes. I have used them for decades and never had an issue. If you do go electronic, get something like an S&G and you should be good. There are several off-brands that are not that good so know what you are buying.
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I have an old Sturdy gun safe bought used from a gun store that went out of business over 20 years ago, it has a mechanical S&G lock, no issues all these years.

Guy at work has an electronic lock on his safe and a couple years ago was locked out of it for a couple weeks until he could get a locksmith to break into it.
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Mechanical is all I've had.
You want quicker axcess set the dial on the second number...turn to the last number and lock up and your in.
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10+ years as a locksmith/safe tech. Avoid "S&G" brand locks electronic, avoid "securam" amsec ESL locks are best electronic. Lagard or S&G mechanical are fine.
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Thank you everyone!

Love to hear from experience on this topic.
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Again, a vote for 'personal preference'.

I have not-so-good eyes and not so good hand steadiness, so mechanical is a real problem for me - hard to see a dial and hard to stop precisely on the numbers for me.

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Dial for me.

Though I did have a Legard "anti-manipulation" lock fail on me and had to have it drilled. Replaced with S&G group 2. FWIW, the black dial with white numbers is much easier than the old silver dial with black numbers.

Whatever you need quick access to should already be accessed or stored separately.
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An X-10 government approved safe lock is probably the best but they are like $1200 just for the dial & box assembly. They will not be the weak point in any gun safe!
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Just get a Fort Knox safe and get the redundant style lock, you get an electronic AND a dial lock .
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Almost 17 years on my Liberty Safe / S&G Electronic lock. I just change the batteries every New Years Day. No issues.
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I replaced a failing electronic with an electronic/dial unit. It used both methods. If battery was dead just use the dial.
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I replaced a failing electronic with an electronic/dial unit. It used both methods. If battery was dead just use the dial.
What electronic/dial unit?
I'd like to look into that.
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I have both. I prefer the dial to the electronic lock.
WHY?
Batteries die.
Put in your code and you hear the double beep and it doesn't open. Dead Battery.
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Mechanical with a key-opens quick
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An X-10 government approved safe lock is probably the best but they are like $1200 just for the dial & box assembly. They will not be the weak point in any gun safe!
I can't comment on the X-10, they came out after I retired. At work we replaced S&G mechanical with the X-08, which in turn were replaced with X-09, all in the search for increased security. I never had an issue with the mechanical, did have problems with both the X-08 and X-09. The good thing about those electronic was that they did not rely on batteries, spinning the dial charged up a capacitor to run things. Neat locks, probably better security than the mechanical but the price of them will exceed what many are willing to spend on a safe.

I have mechanical on my safe and on my "quick access" box by the bed. I had electronic quick access by the bed, it eventually failed.
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I only go for mechanical, never even thought of electric. I would hate a dead battery when i need to get in. I even prefer no backup keys because thieves will know where you hid the backup keys, they seem to know all the good spots. Although I think they all come with keys now, i gave my keys to my daughter to keep at her house. Although they called them a day key, so I have no idea what they do. I have 4 different gun storage devices, from my truck, to garage to house and all mechanical.
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Mechanical on a quality safe never will get locked out
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Simplex mechanical locks are the best by far
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I'd like to look into that.
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Personal preference is mechanical.
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My buddy has a nice Liberty safe with a mechanical lock. He's lazy, and we are all lazy from time to time, and he tells me he frequently doesn't lock it because then he's gotta enter the combo again.
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Again, a vote for 'personal preference'.

I have not-so-good eyes and not so good hand steadiness, so mechanical is a real problem for me - hard to see a dial and hard to stop precisely on the numbers for me.

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I have a little olight flashlight held by magnets pointing down at the lock. A quick twist lights up the dial and I can read it without glasses.
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My buddy has a nice Liberty safe with a mechanical lock. He's lazy, and we are all lazy from time to time, and he tells me he frequently doesn't lock it because then he's gotta enter the combo again.
This is exactly why an electronic lock was created, less effort lol.
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Made me laugh! My brother bought a new big-a** safe and after having to call his wife over to open it for the 27th time in two weeks- had a locksmith come change the dial lock to push button. Been a year or two and I STILL get to give him crap over it.
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So the solution is to have two safes. One electronic and one mechanical.
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Yeah I’m wondering what the Pro locksmith think about the mechanical/electronic combo locks and if they could recommend a brand


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Has anybody priced out swapping a electronic to mechanical lock from their local lock smith?
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Has anybody priced out swapping a electronic to mechanical lock from their local lock smith?

Think it was about $300 last time I checked


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With all the talk of nuclear weapons/emp, I'd take mechanical or dual lock.
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I'm guessing that's just for labor?

There's not a whole lot of choice when it comes to the S&G dial lock, gold or black. Like I said, I'm happy with mine. Gonna have to contact a lock smith.

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How about the best of both worlds...

Does anybody here have any experience with this locking setup?

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My buddy has a nice Liberty safe with a mechanical lock. He's lazy, and we are all lazy from time to time, and he tells me he frequently doesn't lock it because then he's gotta enter the combo again.
That's what the keyed daylock is for. But I have no idea how easily that is defeated should I stray from home and leave it unattended.
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