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Old 01-06-2021, 1:53 PM
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The accelerating pace is sobering. I have small children and I have hoped and prayed that the inevitable could be for stayed indefinitely. I love them and would do anything to insulate them from what seems impending. For those of you who think opening the 4th box of liberty will be glorious, righteous and forthright, brace yourself winter is coming. A long cold winter, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.

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The accelerating pace is sobering. I have small children and I have hoped and prayed that the inevitable could be for stayed indefinitely. I love them and would do anything to insulate them from what seems impending. For those of you who think opening the 4th box of liberty will be glorious, righteous and forthright, brace yourself winter is coming. A long cold winter, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.

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The accelerating pace is sobering. I have small children and I have hoped and prayed that the inevitable could be for stayed indefinitely.

Better I fight THIS day, than leave for them what I should have done.

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Thinking that WE all share your concerns... Unfortunately... IF we wait too long ???
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We are drawing closer to the day when we open the cartridge box and neighbor will kill neighbor and brother will wage war upon brother over rights promised to us in the constitution and bill of rights regardless of voting results by a majority.
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NON of it will happen.. non no one will do a damn thing... people will line up for there shots and wear their masks and comply...
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That's nice, nobody died or lost a limb... we will not be so fortunate.

I just wish this wasn't in our time.

See the title I gave this thread if you have any doubts.

Close friends I've had for over 20 years and never even discussed politics with are bound and determined to rectify the situation.



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My passionate worry is that we're all collectively going to regret the day that we began seeing everyone else through the lens of ideological purity and political utility. Tribalism is evil: racial tribalism, economic tribalism, and - yes - ideological tribalism. Even our own political tribalism is evil. I can't control what others do, but I am not shuffling toward Rwanda like some people here. I'm encouraging everyone here to back away from this militaristic rhetoric, and ideological tribalism.

Just look around. Calguns has become a place where the slightest variant off the MAGA path is met with calls of cuck, socialist, communist, traitor, and so forth. We're so busy looking at perceived enemies, those with whom we'd normally agree are now monsters.

We may have lost our way, but that doesn't mean we're blind.

Go take a walk. It's a beautiful day. Is life really this awful? Are we at the precipice of civil war? No. And no. Shut off the computer. Go outside. Hold hands with a friend. Breathe.
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My passionate worry is that we're all collectively going to regret the day that we began seeing everyone else through the lens of ideological purity and political utility. Tribalism is evil: racial tribalism, economic tribalism, and - yes - ideological tribalism. Even our own political tribalism is evil. I can't control what others do, but I am not shuffling toward Rwanda like some people here. I'm encouraging everyone here to back away from this militaristic rhetoric, and ideological tribalism.

Just look around. Calguns has become a place where the slightest variant off the MAGA path is met with calls of cuck, socialist, communist, traitor, and so forth. We're so busy looking at perceived enemies, those with whom we'd normally agree are now monsters.

We may have lost our way, but that doesn't mean we're blind.

Go take a walk. It's a beautiful day. Is life really this awful? Are we at the precipice of civil war? No. And no. Shut off the computer. Go outside. Hold hands with a friend. Breathe.
This.

Hang out with your family. Enjoy a nice home cooked dinner with your wife, kids, etc. You woke up with a roof over your head in a safe environment with a fridge full of food.

Im sure your TV, internet, water, heat, etc is still running. We are SPOILED. We are still the freest people on earth.

Life really isn't so bad...
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My passionate worry is that we're all collectively going to regret the day that we began seeing everyone else through the lens of ideological purity and political utility. Tribalism is evil: racial tribalism, economic tribalism, and - yes - ideological tribalism. Even our own political tribalism is evil. I can't control what others do, but I am not shuffling toward Rwanda like some people here. I'm encouraging everyone here to back away from this militaristic rhetoric, and ideological tribalism.

Just look around. Calguns has become a place where the slightest variant off the MAGA path is met with calls of cuck, socialist, communist, traitor, and so forth. We're so busy looking at perceived enemies, those with whom we'd normally agree are now monsters.

We may have lost our way, but that doesn't mean we're blind.

Go take a walk. It's a beautiful day. Is life really this awful? Are we at the precipice of civil war? No. And no. Shut off the computer. Go outside. Hold hands with a friend. Breathe.
I'm curious where YOUR "line in the sand" is.
At what point will you agree that it's time to push back against tyrany?

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I'm curious where YOUR "line in the sand" is.
At what point will you agree that it's time to push back against tyrany?
The "time" is... constantly... when it comes to pushing back against tyranny.

It's not about a personal "line in the sand," however. It's about when enough people feel things have become tyrannical...

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The "Part I" comes from THE POLITICS OF OBEDIENCE: THE DISCOURSE OF VOLUNTARY SERVITUDE By Etienne de La Boetie... pdf format.

The problem is the one you may be (intentionally/unintentionally) alluding to; i.e., how do you get enough people to feel that we've reached this point...

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...and how do we get them to agree on a 'new' (or 'old') set of principles and organization?

Remember, in 1776, there were approximately 2.5 million people in the 13 Colonies. Today, there are estimated to be between 330 million and over 332 million in the U.S.
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I'm curious where YOUR "line in the sand" is.
At what point will you agree that it's time to push back against tyrany?
I always push against tyranny, but it doesn't involve picking up a gun.

You quoted Samuel Adams in your reply to me. His speech in Philadelphia that August brings tears to my eyes every time I read it. Since you asked what my line in the sand was, let's look at his.

When he gave that speech on August 1, it had been over 11 years since The Quartering Act first forced Americans to house and feed infantry soldiers in their own homes. And it had been well over a year since the British marched to Lexington and Concord with orders to seize all firearms and ammunition from families. I'll spare us regurgitating all the many crimes Americans suffered in the interim at the hands of a truly tyrannical monarchy.

I don't know what to say, to be honest, because no one is listening anymore. I could say we have the ballot box, but there are those who say that's been stolen, and they're done listening to reason. There's not a single thing I, or anyone, could say to convince them otherwise. They're so convinced they're right, and so convinced that everyone who disagrees with them deserves to submit or die, that they went to kidnap and execute the Vice President. When a police officer who voted for Trump tried to stop them, they attacked him with the pole from an American flag and murdered him - all while chanting "USA USA USA."

Here are Mitch McConnell's words:

“We cannot keep drifting apart into two separate tribes; with separate facts, and separate realities; with nothing in common except hostility toward each another and mistrust for the few national institutions that we still share."

I don't know where my line in the sand is, and I don't have to. But it isn't now. Do we have government overreach? Clearly. But anyone who believes America is so bad they're justified in murder, they need to check themselves into a psychiatric facility. They've lost touch with reality, and are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.

We can't let people turn this country into Rwanda or Yugoslavia.
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My passionate worry is that we're all collectively going to regret the day that we began seeing everyone else through the lens of ideological purity and political utility. Tribalism is evil: racial tribalism, economic tribalism, and - yes - ideological tribalism. Even our own political tribalism is evil. I can't control what others do, but I am not shuffling toward Rwanda like some people here. I'm encouraging everyone here to back away from this militaristic rhetoric, and ideological tribalism….
You are correct about everyone being in regret. No one wants to do harm to their neighbor because of this, unless they are really twisted.

But which side is pushing this ideology and has been using for a while now? And if you read/watch any news, which side is continuing to use it and will not stop until the other side is gone? I can give you a hint, it’s not those on the right…
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You are correct about everyone being in regret. No one wants to do harm to their neighbor because of this, unless they are really twisted.

But which side is pushing this ideology and has been using for a while now? And if you read/watch any news, which side is continuing to use it and will not stop until the other side is gone? I can give you a hint, it’s not those on the right…
Yes, yes it IS the right.

I agree with pretty much everything pratchett said. And based on some of the rhetoric around here, lots of people, right here on CG would simply delight in doing harm to their neighbors and fellow Americans, merely because they have political disagreements with them. Whether they would ever actually do it is another question. But like their dear leader they are happy to advocate for it, frequently in all caps and thirty point fonts. Then when something like this happens they feign ignorance and clutch their rhetorical pearls and claim 'they have no idea' how something like this could happen.

I can't help but notice our 'OT' forum, wherein there were dozens of not hundreds of pages and threads full of exactly this sort stochastic terrorism advocating for violence against their fellow Americans seems to have disappeared.
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I always push against tyranny, but it doesn't involve picking up a gun.

You quoted Samuel Adams in your reply to me. His speech in Philadelphia that August brings tears to my eyes every time I read it. Since you asked what my line in the sand was, let's look at his.

When he gave that speech on August 1, it had been over 11 years since The Quartering Act first forced Americans to house and feed infantry soldiers in their own homes. And it had been well over a year since the British marched to Lexington and Concord with orders to seize all firearms and ammunition from families. I'll spare us regurgitating all the many crimes Americans suffered in the interim at the hands of a truly tyrannical monarchy.

I don't know what to say, to be honest, because no one is listening anymore. I could say we have the ballot box, but there are those who say that's been stolen, and they're done listening to reason. There's not a single thing I, or anyone, could say to convince them otherwise. They're so convinced they're right, and so convinced that everyone who disagrees with them deserves to submit or die, that they went to kidnap and execute the Vice President. When a police officer who voted for Trump tried to stop them, they attacked him with the pole from an American flag and murdered him - all while chanting "USA USA USA."

Here are Mitch McConnell's words:

“We cannot keep drifting apart into two separate tribes; with separate facts, and separate realities; with nothing in common except hostility toward each another and mistrust for the few national institutions that we still share."

I don't know where my line in the sand is, and I don't have to. But it isn't now. Do we have government overreach? Clearly. But anyone who believes America is so bad they're justified in murder, they need to check themselves into a psychiatric facility. They've lost touch with reality, and are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.

We can't let people turn this country into Rwanda or Yugoslavia.
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I always push against tyranny, but it doesn't involve picking up a gun.

You quoted Samuel Adams in your reply to me. His speech in Philadelphia that August brings tears to my eyes every time I read it. Since you asked what my line in the sand was, let's look at his.

When he gave that speech on August 1, it had been over 11 years since The Quartering Act first forced Americans to house and feed infantry soldiers in their own homes. And it had been well over a year since the British marched to Lexington and Concord with orders to seize all firearms and ammunition from families. I'll spare us regurgitating all the many crimes Americans suffered in the interim at the hands of a truly tyrannical monarchy.

I don't know what to say, to be honest, because no one is listening anymore. I could say we have the ballot box, but there are those who say that's been stolen, and they're done listening to reason. There's not a single thing I, or anyone, could say to convince them otherwise. They're so convinced they're right, and so convinced that everyone who disagrees with them deserves to submit or die, that they went to kidnap and execute the Vice President. When a police officer who voted for Trump tried to stop them, they attacked him with the pole from an American flag and murdered him - all while chanting "USA USA USA."

Here are Mitch McConnell's words:

“We cannot keep drifting apart into two separate tribes; with separate facts, and separate realities; with nothing in common except hostility toward each another and mistrust for the few national institutions that we still share."

I don't know where my line in the sand is, and I don't have to. But it isn't now. Do we have government overreach? Clearly. But anyone who believes America is so bad they're justified in murder, they need to check themselves into a psychiatric facility. They've lost touch with reality, and are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.

We can't let people turn this country into Rwanda or Yugoslavia.
Thanks for your insight, Pratchett. A much needed voice of reason on a site where too many seem to be spoiling for a fight. I started putting people in OT on ignore, just to avoid the vitreol. When I saw that my ignore list was well over 100 people, I realized it would be much easier to just avoid certain forums/threads. I'm sure this post will get the typical response from some members, but with any luck they're already on ignore and I won't need to read them.

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Why don't you come to Idaho and try it?

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Yes, yes it IS the right.

I agree with pretty much everything pratchett said. And based on some of the rhetoric around here, lots of people, right here on CG would simply delight in doing harm to their neighbors and fellow Americans, merely because they have political disagreements with them. Whether they would ever actually do it is another question. But like their dear leader they are happy to advocate for it, frequently in all caps and thirty point fonts. Then when something like this happens they feign ignorance and clutch their rhetorical pearls and claim 'they have no idea' how something like this could happen.

I can't help but notice our 'OT' forum, wherein there were dozens of not hundreds of pages and threads full of exactly this sort stochastic terrorism advocating for violence against their fellow Americans seems to have disappeared.
Yeah, it's people on the right that are harassing families who are just trying to have dinner out, and accusing everyone of being a Nazi simply for their difference in political viewpoint. And of course, it was the right that mobbed and set fire to multiple buildings, including a police station, and also tried burning down a building that was also had apartments on the upper floors.

Sorry, did I say right? I meant left. As in Liberals. Antifa. BLM. Remember CHAZ? That certainly wasn't the right. How about Defund The Police? Also not the right. And while there may be one ro two loons on "the right" on this site who might enjoy having a boogaloo, no true Patriot WANTS bloodshed. But don't for a minute think that means we won't do what needs doing if, God forbid, it came right down to it.

I've always believed that we need to do our best to keep this forum from being a complete echo chamber, so I've never really thought we should bar members like yourself who hold complete opposite viewpoints. But Jesus man, all you do is spew bullschit and play the lib card of blaming/accusing conservatives of doing things that ONLY the left is demonstrably guilty of doing. You're not trying to engage in or encourage reasonable conversation, you seem more dead set on telling us we're wrong and how much smarter you are than any of us.
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OK, those folks who are either saying or implying that they're ready to go to the "4th box"...are you really ready to die today? If you are, then I can at least respect you for being willing to back up your words with your life, but know that you will be risking your life, and probably your families' lives as well, along with those of others. Are you really ready and willing to do that?

Am I? At some point, of course, I would have to be, just as my Dad was. I don't know where that point is yet, because that's a helluva step to take. No, I don't believe we're at the point of firing at other people yet, and I hope we never, ever get there. May we never, EVER actually get there....
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OK, those folks who are either saying or implying that they're ready to go to the "4th box"...are you really ready to die today? If you are, then I can at least respect you for being willing to back up your words with your life, but know that you will be risking your life, and probably your families' lives as well, along with those of others. Are you really ready and willing to do that?

Am I? At some point, of course, I would have to be, just as my Dad was. I don't know where that point is yet, because that's a helluva step to take. No, I don't believe we're at the point of firing at other people yet, and I hope we never, ever get there. May we never, EVER actually get there....
What is happening to San Francisco? I hear it is completely going to Schiff.
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I've gone through a range of emotions with this past week--from "screw this, I'm ready to fight" to the more measured "let's wait and see what happens" to the fretful "what kind of life will my three little girls have ahead of them." The reality is (I know no one who is hot blooded right now wants to hear this) if you fight right now, you will be labeled a terrorist and shunned by both parties. They have to get ballsy enough to stand up to the left (some are). If they want to cower at the thought of expulsion, then we shouldn't waste our lives supporting them. If they want to stand up to the left and say "no" to all the ridiculous things and threaten to stop paying taxes into the federal government, then they are worthy of all of our support and possibly our lives. I don't think we're there yet and I hope we don't get there, but we might. Maybe it is rapidly accelerating toward it though.

I see two clear lines in the sand that are not debatable: if the left tries to expel a large number of conservatives from government (actually follows through on it) or they try to pack the Supreme Court, we all say "no, we're not going to let you do that." Some of us might be ruined financially or die though. The best thing we can all do is get out of this state to a red state so we are in the right place when the issue comes up that causes a red state standoff against the federal government. It could be sooner than we imagine with Covid lockdowns, expulsions, etc. No matter, they will try to use big tech to make anyone opposing them look crazy. Violence is not the answer, but it is an option if things get bad enough; you all know how the saying goes.
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Yes, yes it IS the right.
"Dude you're so right! F*cking Trump had Facebook ban Ron Paul because he's a filthy green party Libtard! Probably why all those Democrats are getting banned from Twitter, why they are trying to erase Parler and censor free speech. Shame on the Republicans for attempting to silence a narrative they disagree with, shame on them!"
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When they take your freedom to express your opinions, whether or not they're valid or anyone agrees with you, maybe you'll understand why people are upset.

Until then, enjoy your fantasy feast.
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If this free and fair election wasn't enough to convince the people that think of themselves as the Silent Majority to realize that they are clearly the (very) Vocal Minority, nothing will.
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They're so convinced they're right, and so convinced that everyone who disagrees with them deserves to submit or die, that they went to kidnap and execute the Vice President. When a police officer who voted for Trump tried to stop them, they attacked him with the pole from an American flag and murdered him - all while chanting "USA USA USA."
I'm sure I'm not the only one questioning exactly who did these things. They're being attributed to "the right", but after the past few years, I've learned a thing or two about how the media manipulates images and videos for partisan gain. As people pore over the video footage of that day, they're already starting to discover some very odd things.

Anyone else remember thinking this kid was a little spoiled twerp that made Trump supporters look bad? Anyone else feel pissed at the media after realizing how they'd been manipulated?



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The accelerating pace is sobering. I have small children and I have hoped and prayed that the inevitable could be for stayed indefinitely. I love them and would do anything to insulate them from what seems impending. For those of you who think opening the 4th box of liberty will be glorious, righteous and forthright, brace yourself winter is coming. A long cold winter, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.

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After reading the responses to your post, I think many missed your point. Or maybe I am? My take is that we are a lot closer to needing to open the 4th box than we would like to be. While some think seem to think that we are there, others want to call them loons or other derogatory terms. Generally, those who doubt that we are close, ask if we are ready and willing to use force against our friends, neighbors and other Americans. My answer is that if you are a socialist, Marxist or libtard, you are not my friend and IMHO not an American, despite what you may claim or call yourself.

Unfortunately, with Trump's loss and the loss of the Senate, I think that we have passed the point where the 4th box can be avoided. I hope I am wrong. We will know if and when they come to try and take our arms and ammo. In the mean time I am loading and making ready.
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A My answer is that if you are a socialist, Marxist or libtard, you are not my friend and IMHO not an American, despite what you may claim or call yourself.
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After reading the responses to your post, I think many missed your point. Or maybe I am? My take is that we are a lot closer to needing to open the 4th box than we would like to be. While some think seem to think that we are there, others want to call them loons or other derogatory terms. Generally, those who doubt that we are close, ask if we are ready and willing to use force against our friends, neighbors and other Americans. My answer is that if you are a socialist, Marxist or libtard, you are not my friend and IMHO not an American, despite what you may claim or call yourself.

Unfortunately, with Trump's loss and the loss of the Senate, I think that we have passed the point where the 4th box can be avoided. I hope I am wrong. We will know if and when they come to try and take our arms and ammo. In the mean time I am loading and making ready.
Well said. I also believe the inevitable stand against tyranny is coming sooner than later. I do fear for my family, and the world my kids will have to live in, but I fear their world much more if we don’t protect/restore our rights. This needs to happen, we are needing a big reset button, it’s just a matter of when. If we do nothing, this country will self destruct within a few years. The lefts policies simply cannot be sustained for longer than that, we’re already floundering. Biden will ruin the economy, raise taxes, stifle innovation, and when enough ppl get hungry, something will happen. It has to, or RIP USA... keep your eyes open fellas, keep your wits about you, and be ready. All we can do for now.
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When he gave that speech on August 1, it had been over 11 years since The Quartering Act first forced Americans to house and feed infantry soldiers in their own homes.
At this stage Americans are forced to feed and house infantry solders in the people's House, the Capitol building.
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LOL I hope they lock up all you loons and take away your guns.
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I’m hoping that Biden is smart enough to know that going after guns is a political death march right now. I keep thinking that we have hundreds of thousands of people dying from Covid, massive political disunity, economic recovery that needs to be addressed, and guns are a distraction. Even before Covid, we had so few people dying from guns in the larger scheme of things, gun control was just a stupid liberal dream unsupported by 50% of the population and about half of congress. It’s hard to make major changes. Now it’s just a political speed bump the size of a skyscraper to ban anything and when there are higher priorities... it would be the mans political undoing and he’d deserve a single term if he was dumb enough to derail us at this point in time.

I suspect executive orders could be attempted but they’d be in front of a friendly SCOTUS quickly.

It’s just my two cents. It may not be worth much but I hope my fellow 2A supporters don’t give up hope. The Supreme Court wins will help a lot and if recent history shows us anything it’s that it takes decades (not one administration) to move the needle much in this country.

The bottom line for me is that, despite all the recent hysteria, I don’t think anyone is taking your guns, but keep donating to the groups that will fight on our legal behalf. I doubt storming the Capitol does anything but put people on the fed watch list and land you 30 years in prison. Especially when you bring weapons to the party. There’s a better way to fight the good fight and it’s in the courts.
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