Contra Costa

[NorCalBusa]

Originally Posted by jigendaisuke

They are writing a followup article now. Hopefully there’ll be more activity after this followup.

The reporter ought line-up the next interview with the District Attorney.

[Ron Jeremey]

I got the email that I was approved. I’ll update with more details later.
Go see the Sheriff’s CCW site. There have been some changes.

[jigendaisuke]

Originally Posted by Ron Jeremey

I got the email that I was approved. I’ll update with more details later.
Go see the Sheriff’s CCW site. There have been some changes.

Holy ****. Congratulations!!


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[TheWorm1]

Originally Posted by Ron Jeremey

I got the email that I was approved. I’ll update with more details later.
Go see the Sheriff’s CCW site. There have been some changes.

That’s fantastic - congrats!

[jackharper]

Ron, this is great news. Congrats. This also helps me, as I have taken a full CCW course in a neighboring county and only need the instructor to attest. Then I will still need the qualification part here in CoCo. There is finally detailed info on the SO website. Thanks for the info.

[XDJYo]

Originally Posted by Ron Jeremey

I got the email that I was approved. I’ll update with more details later.
Go see the Sheriff’s CCW site. There have been some changes.

Fantastic!!! One of our very own!

I'm still cynical until I see more approvals. But this is great news! Hopefully a step in the right direction for all.

[TheNinja]

Originally Posted by Ron Jeremey

I got the email that I was approved. I’ll update with more details later.
Go see the Sheriff’s CCW site. There have been some changes.

Congrats!! I know you put a lot of time and work into it and a lot of research that you shared here too!

[Gator15]

I also got an email this am stating that I was approved (initial application June, interview mid Sept). Apparently the training part for 8 hrs is being done by outside providers and the Sheriff just handles the qualification now. They provide no list of acceptable trainers. I have an email in to see how we know if the trainer is acceptable. Updates apparently in bold

https://www.cocosheriff.org/how-do-i...r-a-ccw-permit

[Gator15]

From the cert as to who qualifies to offer training:

The Office of the Sheriff only accepts instruction from CA Department of Justice certified firearms instructors or CA BSIS certified firearms instructors.
Chief or primary certified instructors may be assisted by non certified instructors but the chief or primary instructor must have taught during the applicant’s training class.

From what I am seeing these classes are over $300. So much for Constitutional rights.

Anyone have suggestions as to where I should go?

[lambo9mm]

Originally Posted by Gator15

From the cert as to who qualifies to offer training:

The Office of the Sheriff only accepts instruction from CA Department of Justice certified firearms instructors or CA BSIS certified firearms instructors.
Chief or primary certified instructors may be assisted by non certified instructors but the chief or primary instructor must have taught during the applicant’s training class.

From what I am seeing these classes are over $300. So much for Constitutional rights.

Anyone have suggestions as to where I should go?

There are many certified instructors in the bay area. I recommend you googling for "California CCW initial course" and find out the closest/earliest option for you.

I paid USD 229 for my 8hr initial CCW class. If I also wanted to apply for Arizona non-resident CCW (for reciprocity in 31 states), add 60 USD extra to the bill. I ended up not applying for AZ.

[Gator15]

Also for CoCo you have to qualify twice--once at the 8 hr class to pass then the Sheriff makes you qualify again at the Sheriff's range. It would seem that qualifying before a DOJ or BSIS certified instructor should suffice as it does in other counties, but not here.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by Ron Jeremey

I got the email that I was approved. I’ll update with more details later.
Go see the Sheriff’s CCW site. There have been some changes.

Congrats!!!

Firearms with attached laser sights, flashlights, red dots, and sighting systems are not acceptable.

This makes no sense if their deputies can use them AND if the firearm came from the factory with them.

But at least they’ll accept revolvers in .32 H&R Magnum.

[TheNinja]

Originally Posted by Gator15

Also for CoCo you have to qualify twice--once at the 8 hr class to pass then the Sheriff makes you qualify again at the Sheriff's range. It would seem that qualifying before a DOJ or BSIS certified instructor should suffice as it does in other counties, but not here.

Ya, I read that too. I like that we can use outside instructors. But then I have to go pay to do the qualification with the Sheriff as well? Or is that qualification free?

I mean how much is this adding up to now?

Application
Background check/Fingerprint scan
Training Course
Qualify with the Sheriff
Actual CCW fees

Gotta be AT LEAST $500 plus ammo costs for both training and qualifiction

[Gator15]

Originally Posted by TheNinja

Ya, I read that too. I like that we can use outside instructors. But then I have to go pay to do the qualification with the Sheriff as well? Or is that qualification free?

I mean how much is this adding up to now?

Application
Background check/Fingerprint scan
Training Course
Qualify with the Sheriff
Actual CCW fees

Gotta be AT LEAST $500 plus ammo costs for both training and qualifiction

Like I said that is one expensive "right". Not to mention the wait.

[vandal]

Still less than the cost of gas required to move to another state.

Originally Posted by Gator15

Like I said that is one expensive "right". Not to mention the wait.

[Gator15]

Originally Posted by vandal

Still less than the cost of gas required to move to another state.

True but once you figure in the price of gas to live here, that's a wash.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by Gator15

Also for CoCo you have to qualify twice--once at the 8 hr class to pass then the Sheriff makes you qualify again at the Sheriff's range. It would seem that qualifying before a DOJ or BSIS certified instructor should suffice as it does in other counties, but not here.

Ron Jeremey, did you have to qualify twice?

[Gator15]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Ron Jeremey, did you have to qualify twice?

I think he is in the same boat as me--need to take the 8 hr class still. Pete Enea at CoCo Sheriff Dept., confirmed that to pass the 8 hr class you need to qualify at the range at the class; that's part of the certification. Then you take your certificate from the class to the Sheriff's range (whenever you can get an appt) and qualify in front of the Sheriff's Dep.

[Rclarkgo]

Interviewed in Sept also. No email today

[Ron Jeremey]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Ron Jeremey, did you have to qualify twice?

Yes. I will have to qualify a second time.

I already took a qualifying class. I took it because I’m also in process with Concord PD. I may end up with two permits!

CPD sent me straight to training. I still have to do Livescan for them. But I’ve done their 16 hour training and passed their qualification.

I’ve passed the Sheriff’s background check and been approved to proceed to training, but I’ve already done that so all I need to do now is sign some final forms and go shoot the qual.

Which agency will move faster?

[jigendaisuke]

Originally Posted by Ron Jeremey

Yes. I will have to qualify a second time.

I already took a qualifying class. I took it because I’m also in process with Concord PD. I may end up with two permits!

CPD sent me straight to training. I still have to do Livescan for them. But I’ve done their 16 hour training and passed their qualification.

I’ve passed the Sheriff’s background check and been approved to proceed to training, but I’ve already done that so all I need to do now is sign some final forms and go shoot the qual.

Which agency will move faster?

Ron I think we collectively need to take you out for some drinks sometime soon, one for congratulating you on your success and two for being so transparent about the process.


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[lambo9mm]

Originally Posted by Ron Jeremey

Yes. I will have to qualify a second time.

I already took a qualifying class. I took it because I’m also in process with Concord PD. I may end up with two permits!

CPD sent me straight to training. I still have to do Livescan for them. But I’ve done their 16 hour training and passed their qualification.

I’ve passed the Sheriff’s background check and been approved to proceed to training, but I’ve already done that so all I need to do now is sign some final forms and go shoot the qual.

Which agency will move faster?

Does the approval email suggest when the qualification dates are available?

[Ron Jeremey]

Originally Posted by lambo9mm

Does the approval email suggest when the qualification dates are available?

No. He said he’d have that for me next week.
Their previous scheme had training only on weekends.

I hope there are some weekday slots available because my weekends are booked until the end of January.

[GermanGuy]

Originally Posted by GermanGuy

Pardon my ignorance. Would anybody be able to point me in the right direction on where those restrictions are listed? I can't seem to find them on the CoCoCo Sheriff's website. My eyesight isn't what it used to be anymore, and I would certainly like to carry with a red dot on my pistol, if and when I get approved.

I applied in early July. Didn't check back on the Sheriff's website until recently, when I learned to schedule my own livescan. My CA, FBI, and firearms are completed as of 11/26.

In case anybody is wondering: I have not contacted the Sheriff's office, as of yet. Haven't heard a peep from them in return. No status update of any kind.

Ok.... I know. I'm dumb. Says it right there under weapons on the Sheriff's how to apply website. First thing I read. Maybe my memory is getting as bad as my vision.

[jigendaisuke]

Originally Posted by GermanGuy

Ok.... I know. I'm dumb. Says it right there under weapons on the Sheriff's how to apply website. First thing I read. Maybe my memory is getting as bad as my vision.

It wasnt listed until the recent changes to the website if i remember correctly


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[GermanGuy]

Originally Posted by jigendaisuke

It wasnt listed until the recent changes to the website if i remember correctly


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Thank you! Makes me feel slightly less dumb!

[Gator15]

Originally Posted by Ron Jeremey

Yes. I will have to qualify a second time.

I already took a qualifying class. I took it because I’m also in process with Concord PD. I may end up with two permits!

CPD sent me straight to training. I still have to do Livescan for them. But I’ve done their 16 hour training and passed their qualification.

I’ve passed the Sheriff’s background check and been approved to proceed to training, but I’ve already done that so all I need to do now is sign some final forms and go shoot the qual.

Which agency will move faster?

Where did you take your class and what was cost?

[cire raeb]

Originally Posted by dynastyss

Bonzai - I mailed in July 1st. Livescan completed 8/7. Hope that helps.

Awesome! Thanks for the information. It seems you mailed it a couple of day after me, but got the LiveScan back a week earlier. Hopefully I get a phone call from the CCC Sherriff's office soon.

[Ron Jeremey]

Originally Posted by Gator15

Where did you take your class and what was cost?

Defensive Accuracy in Dublin. The course I took was the 16 hour (2 day) course required by Concord PD. $399.

CoCo Sheriff requires the 8 hour course. I assume it’s half the cost.

[lambo9mm]

Originally Posted by Ron Jeremey

Defensive Accuracy in Dublin. The course I took was the 16 hour (2 day) course required by Concord PD. $399.

CoCo Sheriff requires the 8 hour course. I assume it’s half the cost.

8hr training — I paid 229 usd for Defensive Accuracy in Stockton.


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[Casoobaru]

Thanks Ron, really glad you deserve it man.

[Paladin]

The Contra Costa County Sheriff’s Office does not collect fees at the time of application submission. Upon permit issuance, the Office of the Sheriff will charge permittees a fee.

That will encourage people to apply: no fees unless and until you’re approved.

[lambo9mm]

Originally Posted by Paladin

That will encourage people to apply: no fees unless and until you’re approved.

I also dig that applicants can submit the proof of training at the same time as the application instead of waiting for the approval notice. I assume it can help expedite scheduling the qualification date when the permit gets approved.

"Applicants may pursue training after notification of approval for a permit. Applicants may also provide proof of training at the time of application submittal; see above for timelines regarding training completion."

[TheNinja]

I noticed it said not lights, lasers, red dots, etc. for qualifiction (which I find weird that you can't even have a light on the gun even if you don't turn the light or the laser on....)

But anyway, take the light off the HD pistol (would be a backup EDC anyway) for the qualification. But I assume that is only for the qualification. Like there isn't a law saying you can't carry the gun with a light on it right?

Or you qualify with iron sights and then carry with a red dot?

[ThomasCee]

Any downsides to applying to both ConcordPD as well as the Sheriff? I might try that too. I saw your post about Defensive Accuracy in Dublin. Will you have to take a secondary 8 hr course for the Sheriff? Or does the 16 hour course cover for both County and CPD requirements?

I was waiting to see if there was any movement in our county before I applied. Congrats to you and others.

Originally Posted by Ron Jeremey

Yes. I will have to qualify a second time.

I already took a qualifying class. I took it because I’m also in process with Concord PD. I may end up with two permits!

CPD sent me straight to training. I still have to do Livescan for them. But I’ve done their 16 hour training and passed their qualification.

I’ve passed the Sheriff’s background check and been approved to proceed to training, but I’ve already done that so all I need to do now is sign some final forms and go shoot the qual.

Which agency will move faster?

[Gator15]

Originally Posted by Ron Jeremey

Defensive Accuracy in Dublin. The course I took was the 16 hour (2 day) course required by Concord PD. $399.

CoCo Sheriff requires the 8 hour course. I assume it’s half the cost.

Thanks!

[Casoobaru]

That is bizarre we have to qualify twice? I guess just a bottlekneck to keep in place. So you have to pay to qualify at Sheriff range also? Yikes! Well that won't stop me but I still want to complain about it lol.

[Rachel_EBT]

Hi guys! So since my article came out I have received a few emails from people telling me they have been told that they are now approved pending the completion of training. I am interested in keeping track of this/comparing applications to each-other , so please message me or email me if you are one of those people! rmercader@bayareanewsgroup.com. Also if you were denied, I'd love to hear from you too.

CC Sheriff's office has still NOT told me how many permits have been issued before or prior Bruen ruling... They have also told us they need a few more weeks to respond to our records requests.

In case anyone is interested, Marin County told me in 2022 they got 133 requests issued 32, denied 2,

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by Rachel_EBT

CC Sheriff's office has still NOT told me how many permits have been issued before or prior Bruen ruling... They have also told us they need a few more weeks to respond to our records requests.

In case anyone is interested, Marin County told me in 2022 they got 133 requests issued 32, denied 2,

IIRC, if CoCoCo was true Shall Issue it would settle between 30,000 and 40,000 CCWers (3-5% of adult population). That’s based on liberal SI states (ie, not Texas).

Never thought I’d live to see the day Marin would issue more than a handful per year.

Sanchez replaces Ahern January 3rd. If you find out her position on CCWs, please post in the Alameda County thread in this forum.

Keep up the good work!

[Casoobaru]

Originally Posted by Rachel_EBT

Hi guys! So since my article came out I have received a few emails from people telling me they have been told that they are now approved pending the completion of training. I am interested in keeping track of this/comparing applications to each-other , so please message me or email me if you are one of those people! rmercader@bayareanewsgroup.com. Also if you were denied, I'd love to hear from you too.

CC Sheriff's office has still NOT told me how many permits have been issued before or prior Bruen ruling... They have also told us they need a few more weeks to respond to our records requests.

In case anyone is interested, Marin County told me in 2022 they got 133 requests issued 32, denied 2,

Thank you very much