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Old 08-10-2022, 9:16 PM
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Default Here's my CMMG Radial Delayed Blowback 9MM Frankenbuild.

Here's my CMMG Radial Delayed Blowback 9MM Frankenbuild. It's a 9mm PCC with no gas system.

It's some spare parts, some new parts, and a CMMG Radial Delayed Blowback 9MM barrel and bolt.

It's SOFT shooting.

I'm still working on it. The Glock mags still sit too high. I know I have to file down the mag catch, but in the mean time, I just opened up the notch on the mag. I also removed the ejector since the RDB bolt has one like an AR15.

Here's my parts list

CMMG Radial Delayed Blowback 9MM barrel and bolt
Aero XL upper
Aero EPC lower
Juggernaut Tactical Cal-stupid grip
Gunshow handguard
Rifle buffer tube
Carbine spring and buffer
ALG Advanced Combat Trigger (ACT)
Lead Star stock
EBay $20 muzzle break

The bolt still drags over the mag, and my brass is scratched. It's a work in progress.










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Old 08-11-2022, 5:17 AM
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What is the weight of your buffer? ALG triggers work fine in AR9’s?


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Old 08-11-2022, 9:54 AM
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What is the weight of your buffer? ALG triggers work fine in AR9’s?
I'm running a stock 3oz carbine buffer and a stock carbine spring in a rifle length buffer tube. There's VERY LITTLE spring pressure holding the bolt carrier in place.

The RDB Radial Delayed Blowback bolt carrier is the same size as an ar15 bolt carrier, so any trigger works. Most PCCs use a proprietary bolt carrier so they sometimes need a taller hammer to reset.

That being said, my ALG trigger blows. It's at 5 pounds which is fine, but it's got a TON of creep and mush in it.
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Only a 3oz buffer? Is there extra weights in the BCG? That is an Interesting rifle.
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Only a 3oz buffer? Is there extra weights in the BCG? That is an Interesting rifle.
it shouldn't need mass in the buffer since the radial delay uses mechanical disadvantage to push the carrier back also since it has a bolt and carrier you want an actual buffer to counteract any carrier bounce

i got only 2 questions

#1 how does the rear take down pin stay in place without a "plate"

and #2 what is up with the aluminum foil?

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Old 08-11-2022, 8:59 PM
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Only a 3oz buffer? Is there extra weights in the BCG? That is an Interesting rifle.
3oz, I'm going to open it up and gut it. It only needs to weigh 1oz. The bolt stays locked into the barrel for a few extra mila seconds.

This isn't direct blowback.
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Old 08-11-2022, 9:01 PM
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it shouldn't need mass in the buffer since the radial delay uses mechanical disadvantage to push the carrier back also since it has a bolt and carrier you want an actual buffer to counteract any carrier bounce

i got only 2 questions

#1 how does the rear take down pin stay in place without a "plate"

and #2 what is up with the aluminum foil?
1. The Aero EPC lower has a threaded hole and set screw to hold the spring in place. No plate needed.

2. Gucci
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It's a Frankenbuild, and I ran out of duct tape
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I'm not sure if the buffer ever makes it to the back of the rifle length buffer tube, it's that soft.
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Cool.. if sbr ever becomes attainable in CA, I would be all over something like this.

The concept of the delayed blowback is cool and essentially inverts the operation of the "locking lugs" and bcg cam action for pistol caliber
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wait it just hit me that is a rifle tube so isn't there the typical rifle buffer in there and it would be 5oz i think
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wait it just hit me that is a rifle tube so isn't there the typical rifle buffer in there and it would be 5oz i think
Yes, in a direct blowback gun, but mine is radial delayed blowback. If I run a carbine buffer tube, I need to run a 1oz buffer.

Yeah, it's that soft shooting
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It's a Frankenbuild, and I ran out of duct tape
Man that looks hideous.
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It's a Frankenbuild, and I ran out of duct tape
Looks more like r/PlebeianAR.

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How much does the upper with bolt weigh?
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How much does the upper with bolt weigh?
I have no idea.
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You has a scale. I seen it in pics.

The Brekke upper weighs 3.1 pounds with bolt. Maybe you should go buy one. The world PCC champ shoots a Brekke.
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