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Old 06-06-2019, 9:05 AM
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Default Firearms Policy Center Response To Calls For Ban On Suppressors.



They left no space or ambiguity in their response.
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Old 06-06-2019, 9:09 AM
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Old 06-06-2019, 9:10 AM
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I just have one question on all this.
When is the last time we fought for MORE rights?
Conservatism seems to be nothing more than crying "no no no" and then negotiating a loss.
I should be able to pick up a silencer at a gas station in the impulse buy section and slap it on my Walmart M249. No "checks", no permits, no fees.
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Old 06-06-2019, 9:39 AM
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There are people pushing for rolling back gun control. You probably never heard of them. Attorney Steve Stamboulieh aka NoloContendre over at ar15.com, who ran for the NRA BOD, has/is suing the DOJ & ATF. Several of his cases have involved the NFA Registry and firearms that have been registered posted 1986 by Treasury Directors for political friends, he has also sued to remove the ban on new machine guns. He is being supported in these law suits by the members of ar15.com and Mark Larue of Larue Tactical. (They are currently selling 10k of their MBT triggers to support Nolo's legal actions.)

There are others.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:22 AM
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There are people pushing for rolling back gun control. You probably never heard of them. Attorney Steve Stamboulieh aka NoloContendre over at ar15.com, who ran for the NRA BOD, has/is suing the DOJ & ATF. Several of his cases have involved the NFA Registry and firearms that have been registered posted 1986 by Treasury Directors for political friends, he has also sued to remove the ban on new machine guns. He is being supported in these law suits by the members of ar15.com and Mark Larue of Larue Tactical. (They are currently selling 10k of their MBT triggers to support Nolo's legal actions.)

There are others.
Odd how they don't get press. The radicals are the ones who should be given the most support. The squishy moderates seem willing to go whichever way the wind is blowing.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:25 AM
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NOT ONE MORE INCH. I'd like to see similar working from the NRA...they need a new board...
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NOT ONE MORE INCH. I'd like to see similar working from the NRA...they need a new board...
I like the NRA board! The NRA would have no influence when millions of members quit because they do not agree with positions of GOA or FPC and other non players.

Too bad FPC had to bash President Trump. I would have happily joined if not for that I sound like a democrat stupid comment!

I do encourage you to promote groups you like and speak your mind . I do not think bashing the NRA or President Trump is a good tactic to recruit for GOA or further gun rights.

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Old 06-06-2019, 10:58 AM
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Just curious,
Has any legislation been proposed?
Has the NRA made any statement?
Has anything occurred other than Trump making some comments?

Frankly 19 out of every 20 comments I've seen regarding 'banning suppressors' has come from OUR SIDE either demanding that one group 'do something to stop it', deriding another group or the same group for 'not stopping it already' or other groups asking for money to 'stop it'.

Once again we're our own worst enemy in publicizing this concern and giving the topic legs it probably wouldn't have had without the help of both easily angered gun owners and donations driven orgs contributing to the hysteria.

As someone with hearing damage and hearing loss I desperately want to see suppressors 'decriminalized' and would hate to see them banned but I think I'll hold my outrage until there's really a reason for it.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:10 AM
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Virginia Governor Blackface Racist Babykiller has called for a Special Session to push Silencer Ban and Magazine Ban. Virginia Citizens Defense League https://www.vcdl.org is already prepping for the fight.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:20 AM
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It really makes all of us look like idiots when a supposedly, legitimate organisation puts out a public awareness message without a simple spell check first.
Make us all seem like we belong on "The People of Walmart."
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:28 AM
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It really makes all of us look like idiots when a supposedly, legitimate organisation puts out a public awareness message without a simple spell check first.
Make us all seem like we belong on "The People of Walmart."
The NRA is still crafting a response, I'm sure once they huddle and decide on a message with their PR team everyone will be stunned by how slick and professional it is. When that is no one knows.
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It just seems like we could use a little less compromise and just more rigid of a stand. I know they have to play the game that is politics.

FPC is definitely annoying and super FUD happy.

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I like the NRA board! The NRA would have no influence when millions of members quit because they do not agree with positions of GOA or FPC and other non players.

Too bad FPC had to bash President Trump. I would have happily joined if not for that I sound like a democrat stupid comment!

I do encourage you to promote groups you like and speak your mind . I do not think bashing the NRA or President Trump is a good tactic to recruit for GOA or further gun rights.

I am a member of GOC and GOA.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:57 AM
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https://www.firearmspolicy.org/legal

I provided a link for those who know nothing about FPC. They are suing to end IL FOID card requirements, suing over Federal Bump Stock Ban, fighting Colorado Mag Ban, support Defended Distributed case over Firearms manufacturing codes, among other action. Nothing FUDD about them.
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Just curious,
Has any legislation been proposed?
No

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Has the NRA made any statement?
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"The NRA opposes a suppressor ban," Jennifer Baker, a spokesperson for the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, told the Free Beacon. "Contrary to the misinformation being spread by the mainstream media, suppressors do not "silence" the sound of a firearm. Not only do suppressors reduce hearing damage for the shooter, they reduce the noise of ranges located near residential areas."
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Has anything occurred other than Trump making some comments?
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Also, what exactly are they referring to here?

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Our legal teams are working towards filing petition for certiorari with the Supreme Court.
I am not aware of any FPC case that is currently appealed to the Supreme Court.
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I am not aware of any FPC case that is currently appealed to the Supreme Court.
It's a little bit of a stretch to say they are actually working on it, but I think they are talking about this request in Guedes v. BATFE for a stay pending writ of certiorari https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne...pdf?1554296677 The stay was denied by Roberts, with Thomas & Gorsuch dissenting, so I guess they are still scurrying around at the Circuit Cost level.
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https://www.firearmspolicy.org/legal

I provided a link for those who know nothing about FPC. They are suing to end IL FOID card requirements, suing over Federal Bump Stock Ban, fighting Colorado Mag Ban, support Defended Distributed case over Firearms manufacturing codes, among other action. Nothing FUDD about them.
Thanks, just donated to the FPC.
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