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Old 12-31-2018, 9:03 AM
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Thumbs up 2019 "Constitutional Carry" bills; 3 wins: SD, OK & KY!



ETA: Here's links to the TX, IO, GA and SC ConCarry bills:


link to Texas bill HB 357
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup...86R&Bill=HB357

link to Georgia bill HB 2
http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/.../20192020/HB/2

link to South Carolina House bill HB 3456
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsea...=123&summary=B
Similar South Carolina Senate bills are:
S 0400 https://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsea...headerfooter=1
S 0139 https://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsea...headerfooter=1



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Texas Rep. Jonathan Stickland (R) plans a push in the coming legislative session to eliminate the state’s concealed carry permit requirement.

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On December 14, 2018, Breitbart News reported that Oklahoma is poised to eliminate their concealed carry permit requirement in the coming legislative session, as is South Dakota. Both states have incoming Republican governors who have voiced support for recognizing the Second Amendment as a carry permit for their state residents.
More at: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...t-requirement/

Moving my post of this, from 2018 Nov 09, over here to the 2019 thread. Party gifs indicate where we have a chance of winning. Smilies indicate where we have barely a chance. At this point, IMO, we'll have 1 sure win (SD), 3 if our side fights hard (adding OK and TX), and any more if we're lucky. Pro ConCarry governors need pro ConCarry assemblies and senates to pass ConCarry bills to be signed.

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FL: Repub DeSantis, assuming he wins, is not opposed to ConCarry.
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-pol...uiring-permit/

GA: anti Dem Stacy Abrams hasn't conceded and has lawyered up in her fight against Brian Kemp (Repub), who is for ConCarry
https://politics.myajc.com/news/stat...kQKEgrjFYxiCI/

next MI Gov, Dem Whitmer is anti

anti Gov of MN, Mark Dayton, did not run and was replaced by Dem Tim Walz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz

NM Gov Grisham is anti
https://www.guns.com/news/2018/08/15...st-of-gun-bans

next NV Dem Gov Steve Sisolak is anti
https://thenevadaindependent.com/art...reemption-laws

OK Repub Gov Stitt is pro ConCarry
http://www.news9.com/story/39024439/...ahoma-gun-laws

PA Dem Tom Wolf is anti

pro ConCarry SC Repub Gov McMaster won reelection
https://www.nrapvf.org/emails/2018/s...outh-carolina/

pro ConCarry Kristi Noem, won as Gov of SD
https://kristiforgovernor.com/noem-c...y-legislation/

incoming TN Repub Gov Bill Lee is pro ConCarry
https://www.tennessean.com/story/new...es/1148908002/

TX Repub Gov Greg Abbott is pro guns
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...-gun-governor/

next WI Gov, Dem Tony Evers, is anti
https://www.ammoland.com/2018/11/wis...our-gun-rights
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The next legislative session at the statehouse doesn't start until January 14th, but as of Monday morning, 17 pieces of legislation had already been filed.

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Others took a more serious line.

Filed by North Georgia Republican Matt Gurtler, House Bill 2 would allow most Georgians to carry a firearm without a permit.
More at: https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/...f-942d38f04ae2

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Recently, Senator Nathan Dahm pre-filed constitutional carry legislation, Senate Bill 12 for the 2019 Legislative Session. This legislation was passed during the 2018 Legislative Session with overwhelming approval and placed on the desk of Governor Mary Fallin. Governor Fallin then broke her campaign pledge and vetoed this important self-defense legislation.

Senate Bill 12, would recognize the rights of a law-abiding Oklahoma residents’ unconditional Right to Keep and Bear Arms for self-defense in the manner he or she chooses. Self-defense situations are difficult, if not impossible, to anticipate. Accordingly, law-abiding adults’ right to defend themselves in such situations should not be conditioned by government-mandated time delays and taxes.
More at: https://www.nraila.org/articles/2018...enate-for-2019

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Just months after the Republican governor vetoed it, supporters have resurrected a controversial measure to allow Oklahomans to carry firearms without training or licensing.

Supporters, though, admit the fate of the “constitutional carry” bill is uncertain in 2019 as it faces an untested Legislature comprised of dozens of new members.

“With so many new faces, it’s unpredictable what the new faces are going to do, and if they’re going to stick to their constitutional oath or if they’re going to follow the whims of political correctness,” said Don Spencer, president of the Oklahoma Second Amendment Association, which requested the measure.
More at: https://www.mcalesternews.com/news/r...443f4babb.html

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A “Constitutional Carry” bill prefiled for the 2019 legislative session would make it legal for South Carolinians to carry a firearm without a license, fostering an environment hostile to federal gun control.

Sen. Shane R. Martin (R- Pauline) prefiled Senate Bill 139 (S.139) on Nov. 16. ...

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S.139 has been referred to the Senate Committee on Judiciary where it must pass by a majority vote before moving forward in the legislative process. The 2019 legislative session begins Jan. 8.
More at: https://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.co...outh-carolina/

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State Rep. Jonathan Stickland has filed a bill to allow “Constitutional Carry” — to let any Texan who legally owns a handgun carry it openly or concealed without first getting a permit — across the state.

“It is a major legislative priority for the Republican Party and very popular with my constituents,” said Stickland, R-Bedford. “I think there’s a real need for it.”

Texans have long been able to openly carry rifles and shotguns without a license except in places where carrying long guns is specifically outlawed.

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This proposal, which comes in the wake of deadly school shootings and proposed school safety plans, could be part of a bigger safety discussion in the legislative session that begins Jan. 8.

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Stickland filed bills to allow constitutional carry in Texas in both 2015 and 2017, but they were overshadowed by other gun proposals.

The measure last year made it farther than in the past, being heard in a committee hearing, although it never reached the Texas House floor.

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“I think it’s the year it can pass the House,” Stickland said. “And I highly doubt (Lt. Gov.) Dan Patrick will want it dying in the Senate.”
More at: https://www.star-telegram.com/news/s...221904935.html

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From marijuana legalization to gun regulations, education funding and everything in between, few stones were left unturned during the Texas Tribune’s discussion Tuesday with state Reps. Charles “Doc” Anderson, R-Waco, and Kyle Kacal, R-College Station, as the pair prepare for another legislative session starting next month.

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Constitutional carry

In response to a question from the audience about his stance on constitutional carry, the ability to openly carry a gun without a permit, Anderson said he is “fine” with the concept but needs to see further studies.

Kacal said he backs law enforcement organizations in their opposition to constitutional carry.
More at: https://www.wacotrib.com/news/politi...2ac41ab96.html
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Won't happen in Florida IMHO. Desantis may say he supports it, but he'll never see a bill to sign. Before him Scott always said he would sign an open carry bill all while being confident a bill would never reach his desk.

Tough to say with South Carolina, but unlikely until and unless they join the rest of the South (ex Florida) in legalizing open carry.

The best candidates IMHO are Oklahoma and South Dakota.

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The trouble is we don't know who has been holding up previous attempts since it's never gotten to the Governor before.
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Won't happen in Florida IMHO. Desantis may say he supports it, but he'll never see a bill to sign. Before him Scott always said he would sign an open carry bill all while being confident a bill would never reach his desk.

Tough to say with South Carolina, but unlikely until and unless they join the rest of the South (ex Florida) in legalizing open carry.

The best candidates IMHO are Georgia, Oklahoma, South Dakota and Texas.
The problem is there's always some rhino in power who quietly sabotages these bills every year and never has to answer for it. If we want to pass these bills, those folks have to be held accountable and primaried if necessary.
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The problem is there's always some rhino in power who quietly sabotages these bills every year and never has to answer for it. If we want to pass these bills, those folks have to be held accountable and primaried if necessary.
That has certainly been the case in Florida over the years, and I don't see it changing. Oddly enough back before Florida became shall issue for concealed carry with many counties were constitutional carry for open carry.
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District 69 Rep. Jim Lucas, R-Seymour, ....

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Other gun legislation Lucas plans to introduce include the institution of Constitutional carry; eliminating gun free zones; strengthening the state’s Stand Your Ground Law....
More at: http://www.tribtown.com/2019/01/02/l...es_priorities/
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At the time Noem didn't endorse a specific plan, though her campaign said she supported the policy "in principle." Transition team spokeswoman Kristin Wileman said in a statement this week that Noem won't commit to legislation until she can review its text, but said she's a strong 2nd Amendment supporter and thinks provisions like constitutional carry can "protect and even strengthen this right for South Dakotans."

"The governor-elect will work to find a way that law enforcement and gun-right proponents can come together around a solution," Wileman said.

Staci Ackerman, executive director of the South Dakota Sheriffs' Assn., said the group hasn't discussed 2019 legislation yet. But she said the organization supported a bill in the 2018 session that allowed permitless carry for state residents with a South Dakota driver's license or identification card; the measure didn't advance out of the Senate.

The 2019 session is scheduled to run Jan. 8 to March 29. Republicans will control both houses of the Legislature as well as the governorship.
More at: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sou...MTwcrqpFgKzE_I

The legislation was introduced on Jan 11th. The session runs through late March.

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South Dakota Sheriffs’ Association lobbyist Richard Tieszen, who opposed the measure, said the group believes the limitations that exist today under the permit process are reasonable. The association’s greatest concern is that the proposal wouldn’t apply just to state residents, but also to anyone who comes to South Dakota, he said.
From: https://brookingsregister.com/articl...aled-carry-law
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Actions begun last year to further expand gun rights will continue this legislative session, which starts Jan. 14.

Chief among them are efforts to change the state’s constitution to add language from the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment, and to adopt a “constitutional carry” law that generally would allow a law-abiding citizen to acquire and carry a gun without a state permit.

In the last session, both the House and Senate approved a resolution to add the “right to bear arms” to the constitution. Both chambers now must approve the same resolution a second time — either this year or in 2020 — before it goes to Iowa voters to decide.

The resolution says:

“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The sovereign state of Iowa affirms and recognizes this right to be a fundamental individual right. Any and all restrictions of this right shall be subject to strict scrutiny.”

Rep. Matt Windschitl, R-Missouri Valley, said passing the measure again will be a top priority this session.

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Windschitl said he supports refiling the [constitutional carry] bill for consideration this session, but added that passing the constitutional amendment legislation should be the priority.

I am a supporter of the concept of permit-less carry, which is also known as constitutional carry, but I also believe it is immensely important to get the constitutional amendment … on the ballot and passed by voters before we move down that path,” he said. “We just don’t know what may happen without those protections in the state constitution.”

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“We have already moved so close to constitutional carry with our ‘shall-issue’ system and the revisions that we made with our omnibus bill back in 2017 that it is a very streamlined, state-of-the-art system where citizens don’t face a high degree of burden,” he said. “Again I am an adamant supporter of it, but I also believe that the Freedom Amendment needs to come first before we move down that path.”
More at: https://siouxcityjournal.com/news/st...05e552798.html

ETA Jan 14: the Sec. of State of Iowa messed up and did not publish the required announcements of the proposed constitutional amendment as required by law, so that is DEAD and has to start over from the beginning. Maybe now they'll focus all their effort upon passing Constitutional Carry? https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...te/2567619002/
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That has certainly been the case in Florida over the years, and I don't see it changing. Oddly enough back before Florida became shall issue for concealed carry with many counties were constitutional carry for open carry.


That is not so. Florida has required a license for carriage since 1893........for two types under the old law......repeating rifles and pistols..........altho that law was very loosely enforced relative to white folks and was in fact enacted because of a large influx of blacks for the turpentine industry. Licenses were issued by the individual county tho and that was a mess........problem was that they were only good in the co. of issuance..........then again if you were white you'd likely have no problems.

Open carriage was legal under the old law.........concealed a muddle, but one would have likely had no problem either way if licensed

But, hell, if you feel like it you can still strap on your rapier..............openly!!


For that matter tote that cap and ball piece openly............specifically exempted by ch. 790 as the definition of such is a 'weapon', unless used in the commission of a crime.............. I know, I know...doesn't make much sense does it!

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Arizona at 7 mill still the most populous state with Constitutional Carry.

Georgia has over 10 mill, and would be an outstanding gain if it flips this year.

But Texas? If Texas flips that could send political shockwaves equal to Florida passing Shall Issue back in 1987. Here's hoping!
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SOUTH DAKOTA

More at: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sou...MTwcrqpFgKzE_I

The legislation was introduced on Jan 11th. The session runs through late March.
It's heading to the full Senate after passing a committee vote today https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/st...04c8bb054.html
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This gives us a glimpse of why Constitutional Carry faces an uphill climb even in states where the GOP has majorities in both houses and the Governor is receptive to it:
https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/sp...rX6zo9OtI6RkI/

The Georgia speaker thinks its his job to stifle legislation to "protect" his own caucus. I've personally never heard any legislator who has lost their seat due to a yes vote on Constitutional Carry.
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VA has advanced their bill (a residents only version) through a subcommittee https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/leg...191+sum+SB1158

It has to go through another committee. I'm quite surprised they are actually running with this considering the Governor is an anti and the GOP only has razor thin majorities in both houses. I'm also doubting this can even get through one House since there are probably a few squishy GOP who will likely oppose this.
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It's heading to the full Senate after passing a committee vote today https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/st...04c8bb054.html
Today the full Senate of South Dakota passed Constitutional Carry bill.

One chamber down, one to go!

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Senate Bill 47 will now go to the South Dakota House for consideration after the Senate passed the measure, sometimes called "constitutional carry," in a 23-11 vote after an hour of debate on Tuesday afternoon.

Senators favoring the bill argued it wouldn't change disqualifying factors for carrying a handgun in the state, while opponents pointed out that the bill doesn't have the support of the South Dakota Sheriff's Association.

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"Law-abiding citizens are currently the only people obtaining permits to carry concealed. If you're not a law-abiding citizen, you cannot obtain that permit. Allowing these individuals to carry concealed without a permit will not change the fact that they're law abiding. Criminals, on the other hand, are already carrying concealed firearms without permits, with no regard for our laws," Greenfield said.

However, Sen. Lee Schoenbeck, R-Watertown, pointed out that the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that the Second Amendment isn't "limitless." A couple hundred people are denied concealed carry permits annually in South Dakota, although the exact statewide number isn't known, he said. The county sheriffs' offices are responsible for identifying residents who are disqualified from carrying a concealed weapon, and they oppose the legislation.

"I'm sticking with my sheriff on this one," Schoenbeck said.


'Common sense' or time to 'exercise restraint'?

Both South Dakota residents and visitors would be able to carry a concealed handgun without a permit if the bill is signed into law as it's written, and several senators said they would prefer it only apply to state residents.
More at: https://www.argusleader.com/story/ne...te/2643118002/

The whole article is worth reading in seeing how RINOs and Dems argue against our RKBA.

ETA: "The 2019 session runs into late March." From: https://www.ksfy.com/content/news/St...504230031.html
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23 out of 34 = 67%. Veto proof in the senate. Looks like 6 republicans voted against it.

They will need 47 of the 59 GOP in the State House of Representative to be veto proof. I think that's reasonable, although it sounds like the new Governor will voted for it.

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VA has advanced their bill (a residents only version) through a subcommittee https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/leg...191+sum+SB1158

It has to go through another committee. I'm quite surprised they are actually running with this considering the Governor is an anti and the GOP only has razor thin majorities in both houses. I'm also doubting this can even get through one House since there are probably a few squishy GOP who will likely oppose this.
It's advanced through the Senate Finance committee. I'm going to assume it goes to the full Senate next.
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Four Republicans have introduced legislation that would make the state's permit to carry, optional. Right now, you need to apply through your sheriff's office and take an authorized firearms training. Plus you need to renew it every five years.

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Rep. Steve Drazkowski, who is an author on both of the firearms bills, acknowledged they are unlikely to pass this session. But he said it's important to have the discussion about having good people have the ability to protect themselves. And he added that other states have moved to the Constitutional carry position through the years. He also wants to get rid of the redundancy of having to take the class and apply for the permit every five years.

Sheriff Vic Williams, from Itasca County, said in a statement, "Minnesota has always had a very solid permit to carry law. I strongly support the Second amendment and would support any effort to release any further restrictions on our law abiding citizens. Possession laws are clear and possession under any of the prohibited acts of misconduct should be strictly enforced."

Sheriff Ross Litman, from St. Louis County, said he believes that the current permit to carry law is working well, and that the training requirement of once every five years is not a burden.
More at: https://www.wdio.com/politics/minnes...juana/5220045/
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House Bill 357, nicknamed the Texas Constitutional Carry Act of 2019, would allow anyone 21 years or older to carry handguns concealed or openly in a holster. Filed by Rep. Jonathan Strickland, R-Bedford, the bill would allow Texans to legally own a handgun without first getting the License to Carry permit, which requires training and a fee payment. HB 357 would make this license an option rather than a requirement.

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The last day of the 140-day session is May 27.

June 16, 20 days later, is the last day the governor may sign or veto bills passed during the session.
More at: http://www.dailytexanonline.com/2019...th-legislature
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House Bill 357, nicknamed the Texas Constitutional Carry Act of 2019, would allow anyone 21 years or older to carry handguns concealed or openly in a holster. Filed by Rep. Jonathan Strickland, R-Bedford, the bill would allow Texans to legally own a handgun without first getting the License to Carry permit, which requires training and a fee payment. HB 357 would make this license an option rather than a requirement.
I get the definite impression that the reporter for The Daily Texan is rather uninformed. In the bolded above he implies that ONLY CCW holders are allowed to legally own handguns in Texas.
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SB 47 passed the initial house committee 10-3. Onto the full SD house vote. This bill is moving really fast.
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A bill allowing South Dakota residents to carry concealed handguns without a permit, also called "constitutional carry," is heading to Gov. Kristi Noem for a decision.

The House passed Senate Bill 47 in a 47-23 vote on Tuesday, and Noem now has five days, not including the weekend, to decide whether to sign the measure. If she vetoes the bill, it will return to the Legislature, which can override Noem's veto with a two-thirds majority vote.

Noem has said she supports permit-less concealed carry, but she'll consider the bill's exact language when making her decision.

Bill sponsor Rep. Lee Qualm, R-Platte, called it a "simple" bill that repeals the permit requirement, but doesn't change who can carry a concealed handgun in South Dakota.

Most of Sioux Falls' House members spoke out in opposition during the 30-minute debate on the House floor.

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Rep. Tim Johns, R-Lead, attempted to amend the bill to require South Dakota visitors to have a concealed carry permit in their home state, but the amendment failed in a 29-41 vote.
More at: https://www.argusleader.com/story/ne...sk/2712464002/
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Hopefully, the articles published tomorrow after she signs it will say when Constitutional Carry takes effect.

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Gov. Kristi Noem said Wednesday that she will sign into law a measure allowing people to carry concealed pistols without a permit in South Dakota.

The Republican governor tweeted that the she would sign the bill Thursday, saying it would further protect the "Second Amendment rights of law-abiding South Dakotans." The move is a win for conservatives who have long supported the plan, which languished under former GOP Gov. Dennis Daugaard.

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South Dakota will join at least 13 states — including neighboring North Dakota — that allow people to carry a concealed handgun without a permit, according to the National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action.

Data from the Secretary of State's office showed there were roughly 107,000 pistol permits in South Dakota at the end of November.

The South Dakota Sheriffs' Association opposes the bill, arguing that the current limitations under the permit process are reasonable. The association's greatest concern is that the proposal wouldn't apply just to state residents, but also to anyone who comes to South Dakota, lobbyist Richard Tieszen told a Senate panel earlier this month.

House lawmakers voted Tuesday to send the bill to Noem.

Shannon Hoime, volunteer leader of the state's chapter of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, called Noem's decision "an embarrassment."

"You would think the governor would take more than a day to consider why most South Dakotans — including law enforcement leaders and the wide majority of gun owners — oppose this. But you would be wrong," Hoime said in a statement.

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Does this now make 14 Constitutional Carry States?

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Does this now make 14 Constitutional Carry States?
Once it takes effect, it will, according to the map in the OP. But different people define it differently and different states have different versions (some allow it only for residents or only outside of cities).

Regardless, I'm happy this is being passed fast so that it puts pressure on OK and TX, maybe even TN, GA and SC to pass their own versions. I'd love to get pass 15 states, over 20 would be a dream.
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Rep. Smith wrote in that resolution that the Court of Appeals stated Arkansas is a constitutional carry state.

He wants the House of Representatives to acknowledge that decision to clarify citizens’ gun rights in the Natural State.

That would mean gun owners could carry a handgun unconcealed or concealed without a permit.

The House Judiciary Committee plans to discuss the resolution at 10 a.m. Thursday.
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South Dakotans will be able to carry concealed handguns without a permit beginning July 1.

Less than a month into office, Gov. Kristi Noem fulfilled one of her campaign promises on Thursday by signing the bill repealing the requirement into law. She said she was "proud" that it was the first bill she signed as governor. Republican legislators who championed the bills stood in a crowd behind her as she signed the bill at a desk in the Capitol Rotunda, applauding after her signature turned it into law.

"It's special for me to be signing a bill into law that protects our Second Amendment rights," Noem said afterward.

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Several bills regarding permitless concealed carry are still moving through the Legislature and Noem said the bills will continue to go through the committee vetting process.

Law enforcement didn't support the bill signed by Noem on Thursday, but they support a bill that is currently under consideration in the House that would restrict permitless concealed carry to South Dakota residents only and they continue to provide suggestions about the bills, Noem said.
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Not sure if they'll update it now, that it's become law, or wait until July 1st when it takes effect.

Next up, IMO as most likely to pass, are bills in OK and TX.
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This gives us a glimpse of why Constitutional Carry faces an uphill climb even in states where the GOP has majorities in both houses and the Governor is receptive to it:
https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/sp...rX6zo9OtI6RkI/

The Georgia speaker thinks its his job to stifle legislation to "protect" his own caucus. I've personally never heard any legislator who has lost their seat due to a yes vote on Constitutional Carry.
He always says this on any social issue that could be a hot button. The state legislature's main agenda this year is to give teachers and state employees pay raises. If a gun bill comes up, it will be during an election year. I suspect the first bill they will try to pass (next year, most likely) will be to eliminate restrictions on carrying in polling places and in places of worship. 2022 is the year to look for a constitutional carry bill to gain steam.
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Next up, IMO as most likely to pass, are bills in OK and TX.
Looks like I was right, at least re. Oklahoma.

Here's a link to a news article w/video from the 31st. In the video, GOP leaders of the House and Senate say they're for it and the governor says he is "absolutely" for it. But naturally says he'd need to read over the final bill before saying he'd sign it.

http://www.news9.com/story/39887241/...tutional-carry

Now all we need is for Texas to start pushing it. If we win just those 3 -- SD, OK, and TX -- that alone will make this a GREAT year for Constitutional Carry.

Looking at the map in the OP, OK and TX flipping will leave only Nebraska as the last holdout in preventing there from being a solid wall of ConCarry states, from Canada to Mexico, dividing the western part of the US from the eastern. Hopefully NE and Montana and Utah will flip in 2020, '21 or '22.

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In the last few weeks, state lawmakers have introduced roughly 3,000 bills and joint resolutions. Most won't become law or even get a committee hearing. Committee leaders will focus on a few priorities in the four-month session that begins on Monday, and they outlined those in recent interviews.

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Lawmakers are likely to revisit the issue of constitutional carry, legislation allowing people who are at least 21 to carry a firearm without a permit or training. Former Gov. Mary Fallin vetoed the bill last year, but Gov. Kevin Stitt expressed strong support for it on the campaign trail.
More at: https://newsok.com/article/5621879/c...r-2019-session
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It will look even prettier when OK turns green, most likely this year.
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Looks like I was right, at least re. Oklahoma.

Here's a link to a news article w/video from the 31st. In the video, GOP leaders of the House and Senate say they're for it and the governor says he is "absolutely" for it. But naturally says he'd need to read over the final bill before saying he'd sign it.

http://www.news9.com/story/39887241/...tutional-carry

Now all we need is for Texas to start pushing it. If we win just those 3 -- SD, OK, and TX -- that alone will make this a GREAT year for Constitutional Carry.

Looking at the map in the OP, OK and TX flipping will leave only Nebraska as the last holdout in preventing there from being a solid wall of ConCarry states, from Canada to Mexico, dividing the western part of the US from the eastern. Hopefully NE and Montana and Utah will flip in 2020, '21 or '22.
I expect Montana, Utah, Iowa, Oklahoma, Texas, and Georgia will flip in the next 2-6 years depending on who's the governor (which was the problem with Montana and Utah).

I think Nebraska will be a while. They are a pretty conservative state but gun ownership is low. They're fairly "passive" people.
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We've had the same GOP Governor here in Utah since 2009. Our gun "control" is the default USA gun "control". I think ALL state's pro gun decisions will be negated by the 118th Congress. Unless Trump is re-elected..

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Announcing Constitutional Carry Sponsor in the Iowa House!

With the 2019 legislative session starting on Monday, Iowa Gun Owners is pleased to announce that in addition to Senator Brad Zaun being our lead sponsor in the Senate, we have secured a strong bill sponsor in the House, too.

Representative-Elect Jeff Shipley (R-Jefferson Co) has been a long-time proponent of the Second Amendment and, having recently won his election to the Iowa House, happily agreed to sponsor this critical legislation!


For too long, lawmakers in the Iowa House were allowed to say that they were pro-gun, without ever having to cosponsor or vote on the most popular gun bill in the country!

That’s all going to change in 2019.

As a reminder, Constitutional Carry is a very simple idea.

If you’re legally able to possess a firearm, you could legally carry that firearm for self-defense without having to beg permission from the government — or add your name to a government database.

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The media is already opposing this bill, as they have every single time Iowans have expanded the Second Amendment over the last ten years!

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And Bloomberg-backed radicals are going to fight us tooth and nail.
More at: https://www.iowagunowners.org/announ...ThRh1mI83xZqlQ
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Just saw this and wrote to South Carolina State Senator Martin in support of his 139 Bill to allow us South Carolinians the right to Constitutional Carry. Referenced you guys at CalGuns as the reason I saw this.

Funny how it didn't even make the news out here, despite our deeply rooted gun culture.

I left CA for South Carolina and if it weren't for you guys I may have never known about this bill. I've got my CCW which is honored in 25 states, so that is sweet, but I always envied Arizona and their Constitutional Carry Laws when I was in CA. I would love to see my new home state follow in the Constitutional Carry.

South Carolina is a great state and has gun culture deeply rooted in it. I can shoot in my backyard, as can anyone living outside city limits so that is sweet.

You dudes still in CA putting up the good fight, keep it up. If all else fails you've got options like South Carolina, Georgia, Idaho, Montana and a few others that are still legit for gun laws and can provide a similar lifestyle to what you're used to in CA. We got Congaree National Park, Great Smoky Mountains National Park, the beach is a few hours away, we have the Blue Ridge Mountains with about fifty 6,000 foot peaks, so we got some mountains. Nothing like CA or the West, but we got the beach and mountains here in SC, along with friendly gun laws, shall issue CCWs and some great people, farmers markets for fresh food, great BBQ and that famous Southern hospitality.
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It will look even prettier when OK turns green, most likely this year.
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Just saw this and wrote to South Carolina State Senator Martin in support of his 139 Bill to allow us South Carolinians the right to Constitutional Carry. Referenced you guys at CalGuns as the reason I saw this.

Funny how it didn't even make the news out here, despite our deeply rooted gun culture.

I left CA for South Carolina and if it weren't for you guys I may have never known about this bill. I've got my CCW which is honored in 25 states, so that is sweet, but I always envied Arizona and their Constitutional Carry Laws when I was in CA. I would love to see my new home state follow in the Constitutional Carry.

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You need to update your location info.

Here's more info re. your SC Con Carry House bill, H. 3456:

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Gun reform. Several bills have been introduced in the House and Senate since session began this week. H. 3456 (Hill) seeks passage of the S.C. Constitutional Carry Act to remove concealed weapons provisions from state law and to loosen restrictions on carrying weapons, with several provisions. S. 341 (Campsen) would require every clerk of court to report to state police within 10 days of disposition of each case in general sessions, and report within 48 hours the issuance of a restraining order or other order preventing the possession of a firearm. H. 3058 (Cobb-Hunter) would require a national, instant criminal background check prior to any transfer of firearms.
From: http://www.statehousereport.com/2019...atic-branding/

Here's a direct link to the legislature's page for that bill. It shows its status in the legislature at the bottom:
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsea...=123&summary=B

Similar Senate bills are:

S 0400 https://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsea...headerfooter=1

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S 0139 https://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsea...headerfooter=1
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