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Old 11-26-2018, 6:14 AM
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Have read and watched many articles related to support gear folks wouldn’t leave home without. What’s your go to items you can’t live without at a NRL/PRS style match other than rifle, scope, and ammo.

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There are a bunch of youtubes like this:

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Old 11-26-2018, 12:18 PM
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How many guys bring a tripod?
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:43 AM
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I do not... to expensive Haha

Another resource is the long range reddit sub. Good stuff in there.
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In order of importance (to me) and what I bought: Bipod (you didn't mention it so I'm including it, most guys run a 6-9" swivel-style), Rear bag, extra magazines, Backpack, Game Changer bag, and Pump Pillow. Tripod if you've got one (I *rarely* use my tripod).

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Does one NEED all that stuff to compete? No. You can get by with gun, scope, extra mag or two, bipod, rear bag and a backpack. The rest comes later as needs require. Try not to fall into the "Gear Game" - it's hard to resist.
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How many guys bring a tripod?
There are stages in this match where it seems like almost everyone did.

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In order of importance (to me) and what I bought: Bipod (you didn't mention it so I'm including it, most guys run a 6-9" swivel-style), Rear bag, extra magazines, Backpack, Game Changer bag, and Pump Pillow. Tripod if you've got one (I *rarely* use my tripod).

Ready to rock.

Does one NEED all that stuff to compete? No. You can get by with gun, scope, extra mag or two, bipod, rear bag and a backpack. The rest comes later as needs require. Try not to fall into the "Gear Game" - it's hard to resist.
No Kestrel? You just wet your finger and hold it up?
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No Kestrel? You just wet your finger and hold it up?
I just hold out my oh wait wrong forum.
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No Kestrel? You just wet your finger and hold it up?
KNEW I forgot something!

Kestral goes after Rear Bag. LOL

I am trying to work on not using my Kestrel for anything other than dope, not for wind. That is a hard thing to master, and I still suck at it.
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Old 11-30-2018, 7:37 AM
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Kestrel isn’t on the near future list yet. Hopefully someone in my squad will have one..
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:31 AM
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They're really helpful if you're going from match to match in different areas. The required dope for an 800 yard shot is a lot different between Sac Valley at 200' elevation, Las Vegas at 2,000' and Reno at 4,500'.
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Super basic question, is the pack “just” to carry stuff, or is it used as a shooting rest?

I am looking forward to a clinic and hopefull a match, and they recommend a pack, just wondering it it will do double duty.
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Super basic question, is the pack “just” to carry stuff, or is it used as a shooting rest?
I've used it for both but sometimes it needs a little extra "stuffing" to make it actually useful as a rest.
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Super basic question, is the pack “just” to carry stuff, or is it used as a shooting rest?

I am looking forward to a clinic and hopefull a match, and they recommend a pack, just wondering it it will do double duty.
I read the same thing.....

My pack is small, light, with just the essentials.. but it’ll be my first match so I really have no idea what to expect...(other than a good learning).
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The instructors suggested a small pack helps cushion the rifle when it sits on a hard surface like a tank trap, short wall, or vehicle. Hard surfaces cause the rifle to bounce under recoil. I don't shoot "PRS" style matches but it was a great class. This year the Marines are using their M38 SDM rifle. Some notes on last years clinic/match. Unfortunately, half the pics are missing:

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I use my back pack primarily to carry everything, and when there is a HUGE void to fill, I use my back pack.

Definitely don't feel like you NEED to have all this gear to get started. Show up with what you have and shoot. Your squad mates will almost always let you borrow their stuff to try out before you buy, so you'll only buy what you NEED to fill a specific purpose. Just have FUN.
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I've used it for both but sometimes it needs a little extra "stuffing" to make it actually useful as a rest.


I saw this suggestion recently on YT and I think it’s going to work well. Take a pillowcase and stuff it with bean bag filler. Amazon has 100L bags. (way too much but only $14). I found 2 pillow cases at Marshall’s for $7. I made a rear bag of of a sock and the same filler.
It’s extremely light weight and fills the backpack nicely. You can tailor it to suit height, firmness, etc.


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I'm a huge fan of the Armageddon Gear Gamechanger. I have the original and two pint sized (one Area 419 modified). I know this is all subjective, but I highly recommend the pint size. It's very versatile as a front rest and rear bag (like a bunny ear bag when used 'upside-down').
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There are stages in this match where it seems like almost everyone did.

I've noticed almost all NRL matches benefit/allow the use of tripods
- these are all national matches, that are qualifiers for the National Championship

PRS, especially club matches I've been to(only 2 so far).
not so. much, maybe 1 stage if that will even allow or favor the use of a tripod


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In order of importance (to me) and what I bought: Bipod (you didn't mention it so I'm including it, most guys run a 6-9" swivel-style), Rear bag, extra magazines, Backpack, Game Changer bag, and Pump Pillow. Tripod if you've got one (I *rarely* use my tripod).

Ready to rock.

Does one NEED all that stuff to compete? No. You can get by with gun, scope, extra mag or two, bipod, rear bag and a backpack. The rest comes later as needs require. Try not to fall into the "Gear Game" - it's hard to resist.
Listen to this man, he whipped me into shape at my first match


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Must haves:
- Rifle - 100yd zero
- Ammo & chrono
- Dope - adjusted for elevation, and temp for where you will be shooting
- 2 mags
- Bipod
- Rear bag(ideally a game changer)
- Chamber Flag
- Backpack for holding everything
- sling, if you need to transport your rifle more that 1 mile

Nice to haves(if shooting in a squad, almost required if shooting alone):
- Kestrel
- Spotting scope/binoculars
- Range finder
- Bag set(Front, rear, & pump pillow)
- Tripod
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I saw this suggestion recently on YT and I think it’s going to work well. Take a pillowcase and stuff it with bean bag filler. Amazon has 100L bags. (way too much but only $14). I found 2 pillow cases at Marshall’s for $7. I made a rear bag of of a sock and the same filler.
It’s extremely light weight and fills the backpack nicely. You can tailor it to suit height, firmness, etc.


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An alternative I just discovered is to get some of those large, light-weight dry bags (e.g. these), fill them with air, roll closed & buckle, and place in your pack to bulk it out a bit for additional support/height on the pack.
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I've noticed almost all NRL matches benefit/allow the use of tripods

- these are all national matches, that are qualifiers for the National Championship



PRS, especially club matches I've been to(only 2 so far).

not so. much, maybe 1 stage if that will even allow or favor the use of a tripod









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IMO,

Must haves:

- Rifle - 100yd zero

- Ammo & chrono

- Dope - adjusted for elevation, and temp for where you will be shooting

- 2 mags

- Bipod

- Rear bag(ideally a game changer)

- Chamber Flag

- Backpack for holding everything

- sling, if you need to transport your rifle more that 1 mile



Nice to haves(if shooting in a squad, almost required if shooting alone):

- Kestrel

- Spotting scope/binoculars

- Range finder

- Bag set(Front, rear, & pump pillow)

- Tripod


Was your first match in my Squad with Todd, Dave, you, Chong, me?


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Was your first match in my Squad with Todd, Dave, you, Chong, me?


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yup, that was my first positional match

I shot the previous month's match prone

before that, I never shot past 100 yards
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yup, that was my first positional match



I shot the previous month's match prone



before that, I never shot past 100 yards


Great job!!!!

Are you signing up for the Team, UKD field match in November??

It will be really fun, no obstacles all field positions


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Great job!!!!

Are you signing up for the Team, UKD field match in November??

It will be really fun, no obstacles all field positions


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Yes,

I hope/plan to

wanted to make sure I'll be in town that week, and that my friend is free as well

I'm actually looking at the next few norcal steel matches, and the upcoming NRL matches right now(WA, WY, CA) since they are coming up first
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Yes,



I hope/plan to



wanted to make sure I'll be in town that week, and that my friend is free as well



I'm actually looking at the next few norcal steel matches, and the upcoming NRL matches right now(WA, WY, CA) since they are coming up first
Hey mmlook, good to see you down at the Avenal club match, it was pretty hot, how did you do?

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I find the tripod to be somewhat of a cop out. What's the point of shooting off of obstacles with a rock solid rest. Not too far from just dragging around a lead sled.

I guess when in Rome.
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????I think you are mistaking a tripod stage with other stages that don't use the tripod.
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yeah it was like 80 degrees at 8am

today was rough for me, chasing elevation.

super close to the pressure limit, pierced at least 1 primer per stage


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I find the tripod to be somewhat of a cop out. What's the point of shooting off of obstacles with a rock solid rest. Not too far from just dragging around a lead sled.

I guess when in Rome.
that's the name of the game,
to make the most stable position, as fast as possible


a heavy bag will be just as steady as a tripod,
it's how guys are able to do/use free recoil if they want
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yeah it was like 80 degrees at 8am



today was rough for me, chasing elevation.



super close to the pressure limit, pierced at least 1 primer per stage









that's the name of the game,

to make the most stable position, as fast as possible





a heavy bag will be just as steady as a tripod,

it's how guys are able to do/use free recoil if they want
Yeah it cost people time in this match on one stage, they couldn't get the legs in place due to the rooftop obstacle next to the barricade. Another stage it was simple to set up and provided excellent rear support with the hand grasping a leg.

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Old 07-15-2019, 11:50 AM
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Tripods seem to be all in the balance between speed and stability. Is one practiced enough with a tripod to deploy it fast enough on the clock to get the extra bit of rear stability in exchange for the time spent positioning it? Or would it take so much more time to deploy that one would have to sacrifice shots in that stage to use it? Would the positions be so bad without it that one would be willing to sacrifice getting all the shots off just to get a fewer number of solid hits because of using the tripod? I used my tripod in a couple stages in Reno and it was worth the extra time on those stages, I just really had to be on my "A-game" when positioning it. Like anything, you still have to practice at home with it to get to an acceptable level of proficiency with it while on the clock on game day. Just one more tool in the toolbox.
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