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Old 06-24-2022, 9:51 AM
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Default COE renewal, new (to me) twist

So I was trying to renew my COE. It's always a pleasure to find new DOJ idiocy, and this time wasn't a disappointment. As per their instructions on the form, I uploaded my CA ID (which has "federal limits apply" on it) and a scan of the passport card. As I try to submit all that, I get the error saying that "'Real ID' is required". Nope, it's not required, if I also provide my passport. Their OWN instructions say it's not required. But the moron who updated their site (or rather the moron who set him that task) seems to think so. Has anyone dealt with this crap before?
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Old 06-24-2022, 9:53 AM
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So I was trying to renew my COE. It's always a pleasure to find new DOJ idiocy, and this time wasn't a disappointment. As per their instructions on the form, I uploaded my CA ID (which has "federal limits apply" on it) and a scan of the passport card. As I try to submit all that, I get the error saying that "'Real ID' is required". Nope, it's not required, if I also provide my passport. Their OWN instructions say it's not required. But the moron who updated their site (or rather the moron who set him that task) seems to think so. Has anyone dealt with this crap before?
Yes, search this section and the C&R section for your answer.
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Old 06-24-2022, 10:52 AM
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I have a unexpired legacy ID, not FLA on it, however its not a real ID either so I was asked to upload my passport. Run in to your exact scenario. I upload my passport card on every available upload field drop boxes. i.e. upload birth certificate i upload my passport card, upload other documents i upload my passport card and so on. it worked never asked me again and it was approve as normal schedule. LOL
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Old 06-24-2022, 11:28 AM
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I have a unexpired legacy ID, not FLA on it, however its not a real ID either so I was asked to upload my passport. Run in to your exact scenario. I upload my passport card on every available upload field drop boxes. i.e. upload birth certificate i upload my passport card, upload other documents i upload my passport card and so on. it worked never asked me again and it was approve as normal schedule. LOL
Thanks. I tried that, still the same crap.
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So I was trying to renew my COE. It's always a pleasure to find new DOJ idiocy, and this time wasn't a disappointment. As per their instructions on the form, I uploaded my CA ID (which has "federal limits apply" on it) and a scan of the passport card. As I try to submit all that, I get the error saying that "'Real ID' is required". Nope, it's not required, if I also provide my passport. Their OWN instructions say it's not required. But the moron who updated their site (or rather the moron who set him that task) seems to think so. Has anyone dealt with this crap before?
I have exactly the same. I don't remember exactly how, but I found a way to bypass that, twice. Probably I chose "court paper" as document type. It is pretty silly, I agree. But the solution exists.

I'm going to go look tonight.

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Old 06-24-2022, 6:55 PM
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I have exactly the same. I don't remember exactly how, but I found a way to bypass that, twice. Probably I chose "court paper" as document type. It is pretty silly, I agree. But the solution exists.

I'm going to go look tonight.

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Figured it out. AFTER you upload the docs and go back to the first screen, there's a drop box that says "ID type", and I selected 'Real ID'. I thought their system recognized the 'Federal limits apply' on the DL, but that was giving DOJ too much credit. The actual system is just that retarded.
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C&R, off-roster handguns here: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...php?p=26914824
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Figured it out. AFTER you upload the docs and go back to the first screen, there's a drop box that says "ID type", and I selected 'Real ID'. I thought their system recognized the 'Federal limits apply' on the DL, but that was giving DOJ too much credit. The actual system is just that retarded.
Wait...You submitted a non-"RealID" yet you indicated that you had submitted a "RealID"?
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Figured it out. AFTER you upload the docs and go back to the first screen, there's a drop box that says "ID type", and I selected 'Real ID'. I thought their system recognized the 'Federal limits apply' on the DL, but that was giving DOJ too much credit. The actual system is just that retarded.
Yeah something like that. They select real ID by default, and your ID number indicates otherwise. It took me some doing to figure it out + a few rejections for additional info. They asked for ffl03 copy and number even it wasn't explicitly required in the application.

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Old 06-25-2022, 1:19 PM
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Wait...You submitted a non-"RealID" yet you indicated that you had submitted a "RealID"?
Yes, and? What seems to be the problem?
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C&R, off-roster handguns here: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...php?p=26914824
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Old 06-27-2022, 9:12 AM
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Got a response from DOJ, in case anyone's curious:

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Hello,

Thank you for your recent inquiry regarding your Certificate of Eligibility (COE) application. If you have selected “No” to the Real-ID question, uploaded the required documents, and are experiencing an error upon selecting “Preview”, please follow the appropriate instructions listed below.

If you have a CDL/CID with Federal Limits Apply in the upper right hand corner:
1. Select “No” to the Real-ID Question
2. Upload your CDL/CID under the appropriate CDL/CID file type
3. Upload your supporting document under any of the following file types, regardless of what supporting document you have:
A. Certificate of Citizenship
B. Certificate of US Naturalization
C. US Employment Authorization Card
D. US Permanent Resident Card

If you have a CDL/CID that doesn’t have a Real ID or Federal Limits Apply notation please upload your CDL/CID twice:
4. Select “No” to the Real-ID Question
5. Upload your CDL/CID under the appropriate CDL/CID file type
6. Upload your CDL/CID again, using any of these file types:
E. Certificate of Citizenship
F. Certificate of US Naturalization
G. US Employment Authorization Card
H. US Permanent Resident Card

Following the provided instructions should allow you to avoid the previous error and submit your application. For any further questions regarding your COE application, contact us at COE@doj.ca.gov.

Thank you,

California Department of Justice
Bureau of Firearms, Customer Support Center
Phone: (916) 210-2300
E-mail: Firearms.Bureau@doj.ca.gov
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C&R, off-roster handguns here: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...php?p=26914824
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