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I don't want to burst that bubble of yours. Carry on.
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A semi auto is also not capable of cycling and reloading while the safety is on... lol! But it is still a whole and complete semi auto.
This is just like the argument that we could not “attach” a bullet button tool to the firearm because it became part of the firearm. If the tool is attached the mechanism does not require a tool anymore it has been modified to not require one by the presence of the attached “tool”. The upper is very much attached while the rear pin is open and upper rocked forward until the forward pin is open and upper removed from lower. The firearm is still whole and retains all its characteristics. It’s a very slippery issue to argue and I won’t be that test case. Andrew - Lancaster, CA NRA Life Member, Calguns.net contributor, CGF / SAF / CRPA / FPC / USCCA member |
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Your point is invalid since hh (2) covers that (2) A mechanically whole semiautomatic firearm disabled by a gun lock or other firearm safety device is a semiautomatic firearm. Try reading the entire section first
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its getting there. we had to make some adjustments on the cut out location so that it would function somewhat across the board. hang tight. they'll be available soon.
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Popeye...can you provide what regulation does in fact say what the "distance" upper & lower would need to be separated? If there is such a regulation....I missed that memo.. |
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I was asking Popeye4 where he got the info he posted that there was as another person also asked. yeah I am not aware of any measured distance being stated in any regulation |
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And no, I don't want to be the test case, so I've uninstalled the Kingpin until either this gets resolved or I leave California. |
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I am not sure everyone understand that this has absolutely nothing to do with the Kingpin. It doesnt matter what pin you have on there. The fact of the matter is that I dont even need to have ANY pin in the rear takedown. Lock the bolt back and go ahead and separate the receivers and you WILL be able to open it enough for the Maglock to release the magazine even with a standard takedown pin, a juggernaut, a cal catch, a Cross Armory, etc, etc, etc. The kicker here is that the bolt is in NO position to fire since it is over the hammer thus by default the action is interrupted. Again this is the only system that allows for mag changes when it absolutely cannot fire but I dont need the Kingpin to achieve this.
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Bolt locks back on the last round. Drop the mag.
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This conversation is why I prefer the locked, featureless single shot assaulty type weapon.
If you are interested in converting your firearm to this configuration.... don't contact me!! |
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I rarely chime in on conversations like these, but been trying to bone up on CA since I will be moving back here soon (I know....)
Frankly I find it interesting, mostly because it scares the living piss out of me how vague and confusing all of these laws are. I've been reading hours and hours of posts and PC (which hurts the brain) so forgive me for not quoting directly, rather paraphrasing a member's concern over the legality of removing a fixed magazine (with the receivers open/action interrupted etc) and now creating a transitional period where you have created an AW because it no longer has a "fixed magazine contained in" I get that, but wouldn't it, the second you reinserted another magazine, just be a fixed magazine rifle again? The PC quote about "missing ammunition or ammunition feeding devices, it is still a semi-automatic", true, but without a magazine in there, how does that make it an AW? It still has a magazine lock device that will lock a magazine in again the second you put one in? Not trying to stir the pot, just my thought and didn't see anybody else who brought it up. |
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