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Everyone waiting for their unions to defend them...remember your unions have been propping up the democrat power structure in this state for four decades...They are not about to turn on their democrat masters for you on this...it is vital that the democrats appear to be in total control of the "organs of state power" as we are pushed down the rabbit hole of socialism/communism.
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So yeah, mandatory Vax for us now. Unless you are a crackhead or killer, then you get a choice.
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I’m not LE but I expect my union will fold like a cheep suit.
Even though the website still says they stand for workers right to chose the vax, they’ll stick to what they are good at. Collecting dues and protecting guys with DUI’s in company rides.
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Well, I just got off the phone with my captain and was told by Oct. 14th if I'm not vaccinated, I will be removed from my post and will have to stay home and burn my own time until I'm vaccinated or if the order changes.. or work inside the jail. On the plus side my best friend just told me Texas DPS is hiring and that I could come stay with him in Texas while I go through the interview process.. he's been trying to convince me to move out there for years.. I'm the stay and fight kind of guy, but I'm getting tired.
Last edited by Grobie; 09-14-2021 at 3:48 PM.. |
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https://www.presstelegram.com/2021/0...ccine-mandate/
Weren't LAPD officers tasked with enforcing Garcetti and NewScum's Covid Mandates against businesses and unmasked individuals in public during the "lockdowns"? |
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Now I see the plan, weed out all the intelegent LE in the state. Anyone engageing in rational contemplation must go. You’ll love Texas, beat the rush!
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That certainly seems to shoot down the statement by OCEquestrian regarding your union. Hopefully they will prevail.
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In anything even hinting a "social issue" lawyers will say that even if they lose the case it might "be worth it to draw attention to issue" and pretty sure lawyers do stuff like file a lawsuit to drag out info that will affect another planned case, etc. "Employees are not being forced to take the vaccine. They can freely choose not to take the vaccine. Moreover, the employer is not testing the vaccine on its employees. Human testing occurred before the vaccine was authorized for emergency use." Suddenly these 2021 Union Employment lawyers are talking like Coal Mine Owners from about 1805. Stuff like "Hostile Workplace" etc is never dismissed with "why don't they quit then?" "Emergency Use" means its "still experimental" and it was never authorized only E-Use extended because FDA, like Building Dept that has a calendar for how much time "stake holders"(NIMBYs) have to respond after you post required notices and signs etc , has various set time blocks for things to happen and those rules haven't officially been gutted. FDA rules, procedure and slowness has been widely blamed by Big Pharma for high drug prices for decades. I'm really amazed "they" are moving this hard and fast even against the (in some ways) most legally protected class of workers/citizens. |
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This is the whole problem. Unions, Representative Governments, etc. have completely forgot who they actually work for. THey work for YOU and US not for "The Union" or "the Agency". Complete bull****.
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In other words its clear who's side they are on (and of course Union bosses are in the group that themselves will never be pushed into getting Vaxxed) but they might file a few designed to lose legal motions. I'm guessing if they don't do anything they could in turn get sued for laying down on the job, so they are filing a few CYA loser motions to be able to say "We tried but the Courts have ruled". In a few years it will come out that Union bosses and lawyers were pulling a General Millie. |
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A couple of lieutenants are planning on quitting over it too. Its going to be a chit show. |
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Non LEO here. Stand strong of you don't want the shots.
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I'm just going to ride this out until they issue Skelly notices and I'm out. Donated all my sick time to another guy and I'm burning PTO. I just want my non-punitive separation and whatever pension I gained in my decade with CCSF.
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All eyes on Chicago right now.
I'm guessing State and Feds will grant Mayor Beetle Juice all sorts of support from State Cops, "mutual aid" from neighboring counties as if this was a legit crisis, Nasty Girls, and maybe even lots of Armed Guard private security. If I was Big Gov't and Big Vaxx I'd break these Police Unions one at a time so concentrated units of replacement forces could be used in city after city, one after another. Will be very interesting to see if Chicago PD's neighboring Dept's officers will work Chicago beats if told to or will they have "blue flu". Sounds like Chicago is not the sort of city were you'd want to suddenly start policing as newbies to the area not really know what the hell is going on. As is seems like all hell could break loose in Chicago (even more so) and they'd be sending Waste Management to pick up bodies like Soylent Green and Mayor Beetle Juice and Kamala would just take it in stride and congratulate themselves on the "now improving situation". |
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Still good with mine. I work for a Sheriff's Office and the Corrections side of things is vaccine or test, from what I understand (haven't been in corrections for about five years now).
There's no requirement in the Field or in Investigations, at the moment. There was a "requirement" to update whether one was vaccinated or not. I don't believe a lot of people did it and nothing came of it. I think our agency was and is just waiting to see what happens. A local city agency put out a "vaccinate or terminate" mandate back in September and nothing came of it. Not sure what it's going to look like since Pfizer is now FDA approved. Good luck and stay safe, everyone! |
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Hold on to your panties, folks.
This crap's just getting started. Sonoma County had added that the FLU vaccine is mandatory for all health care workers. In the old days, you could just opt to wear a mask in lieu of the vaccine. Not this year. Sundari Mase made it mandatory. Take a look at her resume and see who she used to work for. If she has political aspirations, CA is screwed (well, even further than it is already).
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Getting close to our deadline, LT. came around collecting the status of everyone on shift today.
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Were not mandated to have it at this time but are required to do weekly testing. Almost no one has got it here. Lots of talk of quiting should it be mandated. Whats really burning us right now is most of the places that host trainings are requiring the shot also which is throwing a wrench in the works.
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Retired here. I have a question regarding officers/deputies quitting instead of getting the vaccine. Why quit instead of being fired? If you’re fired can’t you file a lawsuit to get reinstated with owed back compensation?
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quittin the agency and laterally transferring to another one probably. But yea, getting reinstated is probably a better deal honestly.
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To be honest, I have no idea what option is better. I'm probably going to have to get vaccinated only for the birth of my kid soon. Don't want it, but I'm also not going to miss the birth of my son. Still struggling with the decision, but I got to decide real soon. Dilemmas.
Last edited by esy; 11-09-2021 at 4:56 PM.. |
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In thanks for sharing
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