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Old 08-07-2019, 5:44 PM
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Old 08-07-2019, 5:50 PM
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Wow tons of what calguns calls fud in that article! We need rebuttals to these articles with actual facts apparently with illustrations!

Ive been done with the failed LA times for many years. well since I learned to read and think anyway.
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Sounds like La Time needs to call the waaaaaahhhnbulance.

I just bought a milspec P&S Products vertical grip for my M16A4 clone, 5 minutes ago on eBay. Thanks eBay!!
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Just finished reading then saw the thread. I didn't realize single point slings made for better concealbility on rifles. Also, I love ebay, I sell so many parts there lol.... PayPal sucks though

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I saw that. It was even dumber than expected.

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The LA Times is one of those 'top of the range' journalistic institutions like the NY times, Chicago Tribune, Wall St Journal or Mercury News that, I hold to a higher standard than most.

I expect better from those folks. Just bad editorial oversight and lack of institutional memory/knowledge there. Disappointing.

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That article could argue banning an assault Ford Windstar, a highly tactical vehicle, capable of transporting a thousand bullets of Ar15 ammunition clips. That vehicle goes faster and undetected because of its silencing muffler bearing...
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That article could argue banning an assault Ford Windstar, a highly tactical vehicle, capable of transporting a thousand bullets of Ar15 ammunition clips. That vehicle goes faster and undetected because of its silencing muffler bearing...
And they would make that argument with a straight face and all possible seriousness...


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Can't wait to start selling my AR-15 trailer hitches on eBay again. Big disclaimer I have to put is this is not a functional firearm and all parts cannot be made to fire. Still, lots of nasty comments from those that fear inanimate objects.
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A libtard news site, with a libtard writer and libtard commentators.
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and enhanced AR-15 charging handles, allowing a shooter to cock the gun more quickly after changing magazines.
Guys..... I think I might be using my rifle incorrectly.....
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A rather perfect example of why the whole "assault rifle" thing is absurd in the first place. ONLY a person is capable of an "assault", the method/tool is an "assault <insert inanimate object here>". The possibilities (and configurations) are infinite.

I look around ebay regularly, have seen them do "takedowns" on 100% legal by their own definition items, and their "experts" have allowed complete firearms through at least twice I've seen.... reporting these blatantly illegal "transactions" under federal law resulted in the listings staying up for days.

I still haven't found a grenade launcher....
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Are folks still insulting their parakeets and canaries with that publication, 7 days a week?
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If you read the comments section below the article, the author is taken to task for his misinformation. So much so, that he closed the comments section.
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That article could argue banning an assault Ford Windstar, a highly tactical vehicle, capable of transporting a thousand bullets of Ar15 ammunition clips. That vehicle goes faster and undetected because of its silencing muffler bearing...
You forgot to mention the stealth characteristics of the Windstar minivan and how well it blends in with the environment of its intended targets.
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Although there’s not much data to draw from, Hunter, of the Brady Campaign, said there’s reason to think making semiautomatic rifles featureless via these modifications decreases their deadliness somewhat. “If you look at what we consider an assault rifle, the lethality of it, they’re really easy to shoot because they’re easy to hold, you can shoot a lot of bullets really quickly and you can reload them really quickly,” she said. Replacing pistol grips with fin grips and flash suppressors with muzzle brakes “makes it harder to fire them,” which is a step in the right direction if the goal is to decrease gun deaths.
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I dunno, I had a rifle with a fin grip, it was uncomfortable, so I got a PCC (featureless), it's easier to shoot, hold, and eats ammo WAY too quickly for my wallet....

Anti-gun "opinion" pieces (and just general news) are so typically full of "fake facts" that it's almost funny... up until they say "let's ban 'em"... then you realize these arrogant, ignorant idjits want to "do something" and don't really care whether it's sensible, legal, or likely to even do anything to address the problem.

One LA "news" station "teased" their anti-gun piece with video of a full auto (SAW I believe)... I think it might even have had a grenade launcher...
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Old 08-08-2019, 2:26 PM
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They are probably ginning up support for this, as if there is anyone who can stop it. It will make all gun parts only purchasable through FFLs, just like ammo.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201920200AB879
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Garcetti's badged political butt puppet Chief Moore was on KTLA ch 5 news this AM regurgitating the LA Times article as gospel.
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But like lemmings we will see them all march over the cliff to the tune of the nationalist socialist (democratic) theme of ban everything. The democrats are following the Nazi playbook step by step if anyone cares to read the history of the rise of the Nazi party. AOC could teach a course in it at the university level. expect more to come and people like chief Moore are trotted out like puppets to do their song and dance. what else is new?
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oh The El Segundo Times is so silly
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Reliable vehicles make it easier for criminals to get away. This is the libtard logic
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Pistol grips...vertical forward grips...magazine couplers...does someone want to tell them you can easily print these components yourself with the cheap 3D printers they sell?
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WOW!! That's is so far off, BUT HEY!! We'll take the free advertising!!

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Don't worry. It'll all go away when Kamala makes good some day on her promise to ban importation of all AR15 type rifles.

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You can use Paypal for gun parts at some sites like Optics Planet.
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PayPal has been a separate company for a while....

I just got an email FROM PayPal promoting Bonanza (an up and coming ebay competitor that currently doesn't allow firearms related sales, sadly enough...).

While "virtue signalling" by many companies is seen as "good business" (think Dick's), others like Visa are refusing to join the circus, preferring to respect and support LAWFUL activities by law abiding citizens, even if they aren't "popular".

Ebay's "enforcement" of their own rules is very random, but at least it's still a place where you can find quite a few firearm related parts and accessories.

The LAT "opinion" piece is just another leftist attempt at "shaming" a company that in my experience doesn't always "get it right" (often making blatant errors on the side of caution and completely unwilling to reconsider, PERIOD), but is trying while navigating a huge patchwork of federal and state laws to continue to allow legal commerce to take place...

I for one have to appreciate that ebay hasn't joined in with the majority of "tech" companies in banning ANYTHING remotely "conservative", including speech and thoughts!
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Well, ebay must have seen that article because they removed all my ebay listings for featureless products yesterday. You all have to remember ebay is very sensitive to bad press after that one mass shooting years back where the news reported the guy bought a lot of the mags and such off of ebay. That's when they started cracking down on "assault weapon" parts. They have been relatively mild about it compared to amazon, but the action has begun. If the mainstream media picks up on this and twitter starts their campaign, I can see all guns parts being removed from ebay just like the author of the article suggested. You can see the nice message that ebay sent me in the attachment.
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Guys..... I think I might be using my rifle incorrectly.....
They are assuming you got a maglock.
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They are assuming you got a maglock.
Ah, yeah... that makes more sense
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The more one knows about an event or issue the more readily they can spot mistakes, deficiencies in knowledge and deliberate slanting of narrative. We happen to be able to catch the Times on this issue. imagine all the articles and their contents we know nothing about and on which we can't pass similar judgement.

To call these newspapers "top tier" is to presume one determinatively knows the articles are accurate. Which, quite frankly, is impossible. And is based mostly on bias confirmation.
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Yeah, parts that bring firearms into compliance with an AW law are parts of AW parts, that's actually faar more ignorant than the people who wrote the dumb law!!!
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As a long time ebay'er, I can tell you many tales of their "brilliance"... including a few firearms related whoppers. They claim to have "experts" making takedown decisions, but if those are same experts that let two complete handguns stay LIVE (one for two weeks after I reported it and it had SOLD on the site! I believe the other also SOLD...), I'd hate to see the ignorant decision makers! Ebay does have times (like these) where they are more intensively monitoring specific categories for anything that "might" be a problem... after those "high intensity" periods pass, it's quite likely that with a few tweaks, the same item can be posted and remain unmolested...


AS far as the clickbait seeking MEDIA (and that includes ALL of them now), sensational headlines are pretty much standard. Misleading or outright untrue statements are very common, and frankly they seem more interested in trying to stir the s**t than they do in "reporting". I have yet to see a story or segment (TV) that I know something about where I don't shake my head at the BLATANT wrong (or intentionally false in some cases, I believe) "reporting". It's all part of the rushed 24 hour news cycle - no fact checking, no editors, just a talking head spouting something they think represents what they just absorbed from a quick perusal of a "live" event, or worse yet one they actually STUDIED (on the internet, most likely), so they are "educated" ignoramuses on the hot topic of the moment...


During the reporting on the Ridgecrest quake (the first small one), the reporter was standing next to a trashed mobile home, and behind him were a couple uniformed officers just chatting with the locals.... His "shtick"?

Law enforcement has been brought in to stop looting ....
There hasn't BEEN any looting... (emphasis mine)
And the local chief said they are always on the lookout...

The reporter was making something (looting) out of nothing (NO looting at that time)... All because there were a couple LEOs in the picture!

Don't even get me started on how often everything is "racially motivated" - the goal is to have the cities on fire and blood in the streets so they have a "story" to (mis)report next!

I long ago stopped believing what I see, hear, or read, unless I can independently confirm through fact checking. It's more work, but if it's actually important to know the FACTS behind something, it's better than having a feeling based opinion....
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Not unlike the video killed the radio star.
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I read that nonsense! 10 minutes of my life lost to that crazy BS. For the uniformed sheep maybe that makes sense but for anyone that knows anything about firearms that was the worst article I have read in a while! complete BS
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The Democrat Times of Los Angeles did another article Aug 10 " Titled ;The Sale of Gun Parts Online is Targeted wh"Yeah its a bunch of senate democrats led by Harris and other democrats who are running for congress. oops I mean president.

I think so far its just a letter telling these online companies to be responsible. Whatever that means.

Maybe next they can request that no one sell any accessories unless they have a special permit.

Time to forget the goofy 3rd party stuff and join the GOP --only in strength can we keep what we have and friends if they are ANTIGUN they have an agenda that doesn't include your safety or freedom!
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