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Old 08-17-2019, 1:54 PM
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Default Do not vote Ellen Lee Zhou for mayor of SF

OK guys, this is why another reason no gun owner should support Ellen.
She really have no clue what she is talking about, and is using the gun community another conservative sound bite.

I took these screen shots off her WeChat group today. Which she proudly posted herself.




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Wasn't she previously saying she was Pro2A?
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Not thread-crapping

Does it even matter? Frisco has been a lost cause for decades,
there will NEVER be a pro 2A politician elected in that city.
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She still think she's pro-2a..
Did you know.. She bought a gun specifically for political reasons? She had never actually fired a gun in her life.

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You're not thread crapping. Its the truth.
Even the so called "conservatives" are crazy.
And this is an example of such crazy.

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Does it even matter? Frisco has been a lost cause for decades,
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Had to do some interwebz homework, she was promoting self-defense
in the Chinese community due to the rise of violent crime in the city.
Sounds like she is capitulating to the anti's because that's politics in SF.

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news-colu...y-crime-scare/

I know that in frisco and oakland Chinese people (especially the elderly) are
targeted by "youths" of a certain race. It's one of the bay area's ugly secrets.
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I was actually on her campaign staff earlier this year, and was the one set her up with a booth at cow palace gun show.
Trust me, she isnt not really a 2A supporter, and she have zero understanding of the gun culture and community. ZERO.
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Btw, I was the one who pulled her finger out of the trigger in that picture.
Just to give you an idea how she really is.

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https://www.sfexaminer.com/news-colu...y-crime-scare/

I know that in frisco and oakland Chinese people (especially the elderly) are
targeted by "youths" of a certain race. It's one of the bay area's ugly secrets.
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how about spreading all of this flip flop behavior around on the social media sites like twitter, facebook, and other sites? Sometimes being caught in lies and contradictions doom a campaign. Look at Biden.
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You have London Breed as mayor, how does it get any worse by voting to the right of that ?
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well, I'll give you two additional reasons anyone else would be better than her.
1) Hates LGBT , just because. There are recorded evidence.
2) Seeks to ban pot. I don't do 420, but if you're one of the user of said substance.


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2) Seeks to ban pot. I don't do 420, but if you're one of the user of said substance.
Will never get elected.
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Here's another one.
She is a supporter of China Hong Kong extradition treaty. She has been conspicuously avoiding the issue, as she supports the CCP's position and against Hong Kong independence. He had her lackey ask people not to talk about the current Hong Kong / China crisis.




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Wow seems like things with Ellen have turned 180 degrees quickly...
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Sounds like a plant from the Chinese government. First wave...
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If she is guilty of what is implied then put it on social media that reaches further than this site will and let the public decide and she can defend herself if she is innocent. If not then we have the russians on one side and the chinese on the other.
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Eh, she's not even savvy with tech at all, she barely even figured out how to use anything beyond WeChat until recently. I think she's just another brain washed chinese national in a sea of NPCs also .. Russians? wut? How do you construed that?

Also I've posted on Minds, Gab, which repost auto it on Twitter. I dont do facebook because I detest that platform. If you want to do that, its up to you.

Which brings to another thought.. It puzzles me why one would actually run her entire campaign off of WeChat, of all the platforms. Even if its out of ignorance, thats really shady.

I'm just someone who took screenshot and telling her side of the story after working with Ellen. As this is a local related matter. Calgun.net is about as target demographic as it can be for this. Remember, if you're not in SF, you cant vote for or against her.

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She could be giving away gold bars for all I care, that's not a face that will win an election (let's be real here).
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i don't have to vote in this one but the reference to Russians was in regards to Trump. seems if the russians aren't tapering in elections the Chinese probably are or trying to. Bad attempt at a little humor.
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sorry for the poor attempt at humor with the Russians but if it isn't Russians being accused of voting tampering then it is the red chinese. Just ask trump. As for voting I stay out of SF so i don't have to vote in their convoluted elections.
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Does it even matter? Frisco has been a lost cause for decades,
there will NEVER be a pro 2A politician elected in that city.
dis you mean to say CA is a lost cause ?
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dis you mean to say CA is a lost cause ?
Uhhhhhhhhh. I'd say . . . yeah. The exodus of hard working people is proof positive.

For 20 years California's motto has been "Import Poverty; Export Jobs." It has been paying off in spades in the last five years and is gaining strength. California will be Venezuela soon.
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Tell me more about that flag. "Don't tread on me"? Who made it? Very well done.
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It's just "Dont tread on me" on in traditional chinese. (mainland uses simplified)
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Eh, she's not even savvy with tech at all, she barely even figured out how to use anything beyond WeChat until recently. I think she's just another brain washed chinese national in a sea of NPCs also .. Russians? wut? How do you construed that?
WeChat is very big in the Chinese community, and no doubt she a pretty substantial following. Chinese tend to take other Chinese at their word as they come from a very homogeneous culture.
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she seems a little right to London Breed. That doesn't make her right. But hey, it's a start...?
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This was interesting:
http://www.ktvu.com/news/ktvu-local-...arm-themselves

Probably didn't make her Brady Campaign donors happy to hear her say that...
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You can't say in one breath that Ellen Zhou is fighting for us with the NRA and the 2nd she is campaigning with the Brady Foundation. It's showing she is just looking for votes and not understanding what she is doing.

See the 1st post in this thread. Brady Campaign and NRA don't mix so it is very unclear what her 2A stance is other then saying anything to try and get votes from both sides. So what truth do you know of?
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This is Fat Cat (GFK). I am one of the founders of Chinese Rifle Association (CRA) which is an affiliated club of NRA (yes, the domestic terrorist organization declared by San Francisco). Basically, I am a terrorist based on SF definition. I believe most members of Calguns forum are NRA member as well. Then the lady ChibiPaw told us NOT to vote the only Pro-2A candidate- Ellen Lee Zhou. Rather she wants us to vote all Anti-2A, Pro-Weeds, Pro-LGBT Democrats. Right now, San Francisco streets are already full of ****, broken windows every hour, homeless everywhere. All are from the governance of Democrats. Then the lady ChibiPaw asked us to continue to vote Democrats.

Her reasons against Ellen Lee Zhou were really crappy, not worth to argue, but in case some people really innocent or naÔve. Here are my arguments:
- Ellen Lee Zhou did not know gun. Just assume Ellen Lee Zhou really does not own any gun and knows nothing about gun, but she Pro-2A. Another people own many guns, expert in gun but against every one else except them own gun. Who you will vote?
- Ellen Lee Zhou supports China ownership of Hongkong. Li favorites Russia. This is typical crappy Democrats accuse, just like what Democrats did for Trump. No any evidence.
- ChibiPaw claimed she was once one of Ellen Lee Zhou’s volunteer. So she knew everything about Ellen Lee Zhou. But for me, ChibiPaw was just a betrayer. I never trust betrayer.

All up to you, Calguners, to vote a Candidate Pro-2A or Candidates declare gun owner is terrorist.

A little bit more info about CRA. It is a non-profit organization and affiliated club with NRA to promote 2A and gun education among Chinese American community. We already encouraged thousands Chinese Americans to learn 2A and gun knowledge, and help hundreds if not thousands Chinese Americans to be proud gun owners. If you want to know more about CRA, just PM.
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Trolls and shills seem to be everywhere these days on the internet. Calguns is not immune to that.
the bots are probably scanning for anything mentioning ellen lee zhou and then it gets referred for someone to post to counter any anti-ellen messages.

which is pretty much standard SOP for mainland chinese cyber ops.

i trust chibipaw more than any of the new posters that signed up and only posted in this thread.

if they couldn't even muster the time to participate in this forum before the elections, especially someone who created the "Chinese NRA" then they are shills.

joined in 2015 but zero posts until today? sounds like a bot account that was created and kept on standby just for propaganda purposes.
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Well regardless of who you vote for in SF, you’re effed anyway.
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Whoever you trust is your freedom, but as a gun owner, vote Anit-2A candidate. Just dummy.


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the bots are probably scanning for anything mentioning ellen lee zhou and then it gets referred for someone to post to counter any anti-ellen messages.

which is pretty much standard SOP for mainland chinese cyber ops.

i trust chibipaw more than any of the new posters that signed up and only posted in this thread.

if they couldn't even muster the time to participate in this forum before the elections, especially someone who created the "Chinese NRA" then they are shills.

joined in 2015 but zero posts until today? sounds like a bot account that was created and kept on standby just for propaganda purposes.
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This is Fat Cat (GFK). I am one of the founders of Chinese Rifle Association (CRA) which is an affiliated club of NRA (yes, the domestic terrorist organization declared by San Francisco). Basically, I am a terrorist based on SF definition. I believe most members of Calguns forum are NRA member as well. Then the lady ChibiPaw told us NOT to vote the only Pro-2A candidate- Ellen Lee Zhou. Rather she wants us to vote all Anti-2A, Pro-Weeds, Pro-LGBT Democrats. Right now, San Francisco streets are already full of ****, broken windows every hour, homeless everywhere. All are from the governance of Democrats. Then the lady ChibiPaw asked us to continue to vote Democrats.

Her reasons against Ellen Lee Zhou were really crappy, not worth to argue, but in case some people really innocent or naÔve. Here are my arguments:
- Ellen Lee Zhou did not know gun. Just assume Ellen Lee Zhou really does not own any gun and knows nothing about gun, but she Pro-2A. Another people own many guns, expert in gun but against every one else except them own gun. Who you will vote?
- Ellen Lee Zhou supports China ownership of Hongkong. Li favorites Russia. This is typical crappy Democrats accuse, just like what Democrats did for Trump. No any evidence.
- ChibiPaw claimed she was once one of Ellen Lee Zhouís volunteer. So she knew everything about Ellen Lee Zhou. But for me, ChibiPaw was just a betrayer. I never trust betrayer.

All up to you, Calguners, to vote a Candidate Pro-2A or Candidates declare gun owner is terrorist.

A little bit more info about CRA. It is a non-profit organization and affiliated club with NRA to promote 2A and gun education among Chinese American community. We already encouraged thousands Chinese Americans to learn 2A and gun knowledge, and help hundreds if not thousands Chinese Americans to be proud gun owners. If you want to know more about CRA, just PM.
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I can’t find ANY info on the Chinese Rifle Association. Links or info please.
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Alright mister Fat Cat who's only signed on since 2015 with only 2 (TWO) posts.
Cool story bro, and let me get right to the chase here now that you've done your 50 Cents Party white knighting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
Nobody knows who you are or what CRA is.
You're just as out of touch as Ellen this subject matter,. Anyone saw the screen shots in the previous post already know SHE literally wrote on her post that she wants the city to "make changes" against gun violence. We all know what that means as the government can only take away rights any of its actions.

I've struggled along with Calguns.net and Calguns Foundation for years and I'm actually fairly well known. At least for all the old guards here. What have you or Ellen done all these years for this community? Where were you when Sonoma Arms was raided by the DOJ during the first OLL? or for that matter any of the past major and minor historic events? Further, I did not say to vote democrats, I said literally said ANYONE, just not Ellen. Do not put words in my mouth like that.

Let me rebut your so called reasons. that YOUR argument is not only crappy but invalid, and not mine.

Ellen still DOES NOT have any understanding of gun culture and community. Period. Thats not a past tense thing, its PRESENT TENSE. Nobody assumed she didn't own any guns, that never came up. Again , scroll back and go look at Ellen's anti-gun statement screen shot. She is just using this community for her own gains, most people here are smarter than that and are tired of politicians like her.

Your argument on defending Ellen from being exposed as a Chinese Communist Party supporter is really lame. Explain to me why she started banning people from speaking of the Hong Kong protest on WeChat, and did not simply moved the conversation off that platform and on to any number of services that are US base, but instead opted to censor the entire conversation? Again, why is she running the entire campaign off WeChat? No evidence of her doing this? Do you really want me to start dumping even more screenshots?

I dont know you from a can of paint, I dont care what you think about me. Im just warning the community which I know and love, a community which I've shared many posts, and many IRL hours with. I have receipts of everything, and I dont think you've even been to a single Calguns.net shoot-n-que. If you want to talk about betrayal, if you only know what I've done for Ellen. I had it all laid out for her, and why dont you ask her why the NRA wont give her an endorsement? She betrayed myself. and a whole lot of ex-staffers of this campaign. I am not about to sit idly by while she betrays this community.

No, people are not tools like you. People are smarter than just buying anyone who identify to be pro-2a. We've heard it all, and if you've even bothered to read the original thread, you'd know people want proof, which was never delivered. Instead, she doubled down censoring people the entire way.

Oh yea, I almost forgot. If you and and Ellen are so Anti-LGBT, why was she so keen on those photo ops with the Pink Pistols members at Cow Palace? Did you know she showed up today at Blaire White's meet and greet with gifts, and also took photo ops her? Do you even know who Blaire White is? Ellen didn't know because I was there at the same event, and I asked her directly about it.
That's another example of her hypocrisy and how she will do anything for votes and donations. Pandering to LGBT and gun owners alike for useful idiots. Don't believe me? It's on Ellen's Facebook page.

Lastly, your [insert race] rifle association is no better than the existence Congressional Black Caucus. Identity politics like this is racist, and divisive. Luckily, it's probably just a handful of mainland boomers sitting around in a Tong ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tong_(organization) ) talking about how to bring communism to America, while enjoying their freedom here.


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This is Fat Cat (GFK). I am one of the founders of Chinese Rifle Association (CRA) which is an affiliated club of NRA (yes, the domestic terrorist organization declared by San Francisco). Basically, I am a terrorist based on SF definition. I believe most members of Calguns forum are NRA member as well. Then the lady ChibiPaw told us NOT to vote the only Pro-2A candidate- Ellen Lee Zhou. Rather she wants us to vote all Anti-2A, Pro-Weeds, Pro-LGBT Democrats. Right now, San Francisco streets are already full of ****, broken windows every hour, homeless everywhere. All are from the governance of Democrats. Then the lady ChibiPaw asked us to continue to vote Democrats.

Her reasons against Ellen Lee Zhou were really crappy, not worth to argue, but in case some people really innocent or naÔve. Here are my arguments:
- Ellen Lee Zhou did not know gun. Just assume Ellen Lee Zhou really does not own any gun and knows nothing about gun, but she Pro-2A. Another people own many guns, expert in gun but against every one else except them own gun. Who you will vote?
- Ellen Lee Zhou supports China ownership of Hongkong. Li favorites Russia. This is typical crappy Democrats accuse, just like what Democrats did for Trump. No any evidence.
- ChibiPaw claimed she was once one of Ellen Lee Zhouís volunteer. So she knew everything about Ellen Lee Zhou. But for me, ChibiPaw was just a betrayer. I never trust betrayer.

All up to you, Calguners, to vote a Candidate Pro-2A or Candidates declare gun owner is terrorist.

A little bit more info about CRA. It is a non-profit organization and affiliated club with NRA to promote 2A and gun education among Chinese American community. We already encouraged thousands Chinese Americans to learn 2A and gun knowledge, and help hundreds if not thousands Chinese Americans to be proud gun owners. If you want to know more about CRA, just PM.
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Default More about 50 Cents Party (Chinese trolls)

In case you didn't know about the "50 Cents Part" , paid trolls from China are really pervasive on the internet. I've mentioned it in my previous long winded rebuttal back to fatcat. (Quick Link here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party)

But there's another depth to this entire thing. In the mainland chinese culture, there is a very deep sense nationalism. Here's a simple scenario to explain this.
Let say you have two mainland chinese person , arguing against each others over a topic. Its a really heated argument and they're at each other's throat.
A third person walks by and utters something along the lines of "China sucks donkey phallic". The two who are arguing will stop and beat up the 3rd person.

This type of NPC like or sleeper agent behavior is a result of generations (98 years roughly) of constant communist collectivism brain washing from birth.
To everyone else who's observing it is a really odd behavior. because what seemingly to be normal people one moment, once triggered they will immediately become irrational and rabid, much like how some people yell allahu ackbar.

You can probe this easily by asking any one of them what they think about Taiwan and the South China Sea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territ...outh_China_Sea
They will almost always answer that both Taiwan and the South China Sea all belongs to China.

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