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Old 01-19-2020, 9:21 AM
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A recent purchase of a new revolver has left a bad taste in my mouth.

A brand new gun and it had a defect in the rifling so they scrapped it and gave me a replacement. The replacement had issues cocking, sent it back and it came back worse. They are replacing it with something different.

I understand no manufacturers are perfect but gees. I have a Charter arms Off Duty I purchased in 1986 for $160 that has many, many thousands of rounds without one single malfunction. I have also owned a couple S&W L frame, a Taurus and some really cheap as guns I couldn't put a name on now. All but the Charter Arms have gone by the wayside now but one thing they all had in common was reliability. I have never had one malfunction in any revolver, ever. So this has me baffled.

This was a brand new SP101 9mm and I read of others having similar issues with this gun. With there reputation for being so durable I never expected this. Maybe I've just been lucky over the years.
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Old 01-19-2020, 9:29 AM
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Stuff happens , in making all things to all manufactures.

That said, I have a Dan Wesson, that has a blem from factory, but other than that, it is one of the finest guns I've ever shot. (will not be for sale)

As for the SP 101. I tried one, but the ergonomics where not to my liking, so did not purchase. The gun was actually well built, & likely you just got the some bad ones.. it happens.

Get another, can't be bad every time, or just find something else that you like.
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Old 01-19-2020, 9:35 AM
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Stuff happens , in making all things to all manufactures.

That said, I have a Dan Wesson, that has a blem from factory, but other than that, it is one of the finest guns I've ever shot. (will not be for sale)

As for the SP 101. I tried one, but the ergonomics where not to my liking, so did not purchase. The gun was actually well built, & likely you just got the some bad ones.. it happens.

Get another, can't be bad every time, or just find something else that you like.
They are exchanging it for something else, not a revolver. Only because it was purchased solely as a carry gun and I will never trust it.
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They are exchanging it for something else, not a revolver. Only because it was purchased solely as a carry gun and I will never trust it.
I hope your non-revolver replacement works perfectly, otherwise when you abandon its class completely you'll be effectively choiceless.

As noted above, even companies as good as Ruger have a bad product now and then. The fact that they are taking care of you speaks highly of Ruger.
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Old 01-19-2020, 9:58 AM
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I hope your non-revolver replacement works perfectly, otherwise when you abandon its class completely you'll be effectively choiceless.

As noted above, even companies as good as Ruger have a bad product now and then. The fact that they are taking care of you speaks highly of Ruger.
Yes, so far their SC has been awesome, shipping labels sent same day and returned very fast. After I wrote a letter with my concerns I got a personal call to address the issue.

After dealing with Remington before this was a pleasure.
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I think this is rather unusual.

Good luck OP
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I have a few S&W revolvers, and no issues other than needing a trigger job to lighten up the pull.
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No issues with my GP100 I purchased in 2018.
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Over the years I've had 3 brand new guns have to go back to the manufacturer for repair; a S&W model 19, timing locked up the first time I took it out. A Browning Bolt action rifle, safety recall. A Ruger bolt action, chamber had a bur, was wrecking the casings. As far as I can remember, I've bought 9 guns new, that's 33% that had to go back and to 3 different manufactures. I also had a loose front sight on a new Colt 1911 that was fixed by the retailer.
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I'm sure that 99% of the Ruger owners here will say the same thing that they've never had a problem and I'm one of them. I own several Ruger revolvers, some I bought new and some I bought used, and I've never had any issues. Several members have replied that even the best companies occasionally put out a bad product and that is absolutely true.
But for you to have two different issues in a row from a company like Ruger is incredible.
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Yeah, unfortunately I think your experience is highly unusual. Don’t give up on them, Ruger makes a fine, durable product.

I’ve had good experiences with Charter, they aren’t fancy but they are simple, functional and lightweight.
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I'm sure that 99% of the Ruger owners here will say the same thing that they've never had a problem and I'm one of them. I own several Ruger revolvers, some I bought new and some I bought used, and I've never had any issues. Several members have replied that even the best companies occasionally put out a bad product and that is absolutely true.
But for you to have two different issues in a row from a company like Ruger is incredible.
my #1 issue with Ruger is they won't sell parts to you - i wanted to buy a cylinder release and they just won't sell them - same when i wanted to buy a stainless hammer for my GP100
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- rugers are great
- QC stuff happens tho

- had 2 SW j-frames go back for issues right out the box
- they fixed them

- it happens

- don't give up yet!








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my #1 issue with Ruger is they won't sell parts to you - i wanted to buy a cylinder release and they just won't sell them - same when i wanted to buy a stainless hammer for my GP100
I wasn't aware of that because I've never tried to order parts from them.
At one time I had considered getting a spurless hammer for my SP101 but I wanted to keep the original hammer instead of having it ground down. I had planned on contacting Ruger about ordering the spurless version but for some reason I never got around to it.
Maybe it's a liability thing as far as internal parts are concerned.
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My first Ruger revolver had to go back to the factory after it failed on day one at the range. It was taken care of and it runs like a top now.
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I’ve never had a problem with the many Smith & wessons I have owned. Ruger can be a little “variable” quality wise. I just bought a new Ruger mini 14 that had a case head separation and headspace problems. Ruger had to replace the rifle. The new one is fine. I have a new colt king cobra that is stellar. If you can afford it you won’t go wrong either
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Had my date of problems with Smith & Wesson revolvers and MIM parts. The worst one was my 686 Classic 4-inch .357 Mag. Somehow the floating firing pin and hammer got bound-up and locked the cylinder up with live ammo in it. The Range Officer at the club held the gun while I worked the levers and forced the cylinder to rotate, allowing the cylinder to swing out. Sent it back to Smith and they repaired it. I took the entire gun apart after getting it back and no sign of damage and it works perfectly.
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Its possible the bad Rugers are a result of hiring some anti gunner!

Keep sending back bad products a suggest the manufacturer look at who is responsible .
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A recent purchase of a new revolver has left a bad taste in my mouth.
Please don't put guns in your mouth.
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A friend of mine bought a S&W 17 HMR revolver and couldn't hit the inside of a barn with it. It had no rifling in the barrel. Barrel replaced under warranty
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A recent purchase of a new revolver has left a bad taste in my mouth.

A brand new gun and it had a defect in the rifling so they scrapped it and gave me a replacement. The replacement had issues cocking, sent it back and it came back worse. They are replacing it with something different.

I understand no manufacturers are perfect but gees. I have a Charter arms Off Duty I purchased in 1986 for $160 that has many, many thousands of rounds without one single malfunction. I have also owned a couple S&W L frame, a Taurus and some really cheap as guns I couldn't put a name on now. All but the Charter Arms have gone by the wayside now but one thing they all had in common was reliability. I have never had one malfunction in any revolver, ever. So this has me baffled.

This was a brand new SP101 9mm and I read of others having similar issues with this gun. With there reputation for being so durable I never expected this. Maybe I've just been lucky over the years.
Okay, but what is your question?
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This one won’t leave a bad taste - I’ll guarantee it

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Ruger's finishing after milling is not great. My SP101 in .22lr has a burr on the ratcheting mechanism that makes it start catching when you cock it on one of the cylinders once it starts to heat up.

But that's why it was $600 instead of $900.
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Got a Sp101, New Vaquero and now a GP100 Match all in 357, all are flawless so far. I've taken the SP101 apart to change out the springs and everything went well, all parts fit back no problem. Almost got an Old Army but I couldn't get it delivered to my door...
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Okay, but what is your question?
LOL, Ok just statement of facts and frustration.

I'm sure I had a question when I started the thread. I have oldtimers.
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I see that a few here have had problems with their Rugers and I'm wondering if these guns were purchased in the last ten years or so.
My Redhawk, GP100 and SP101 were purchased new before 2000. My Blackhawks are older than that and were purchased used. As I've mentioned, I've never had a problem with any of them.
But, I have a new GP100 on layaway that I will DROS later this month. When I bought it I never thought about any possible problems because I've had good luck in the past with Rugers. After reading some of these posts I guess I'll just have to wait and see if my luck holds out.
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Really only finding issues with the SP101 with a very few exceptions.
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I bought my original GP100 back in the 90s but last year my daughter convinced me that she needed it more than I did. She's very happy with it but I miss having it which is why I bought the new one.
I checked on line and some people are having issues with the 7 shot cylinder. With some brands of ammo the rim of the last round loaded touches the round next to it and will not fully seat in the chamber. But other people have reported that they have had no problems with any of the ammo they've used. I'll be picking mine up in a couple of weeks and since I have 2 or 3 different brands of ammo on hand that's the first thing I check out.
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In the past, I have bought two Ruger handguns that had canted sights: a Mark III in 2005 and an SP101 in 2006. The cant angle was about 3 degrees in both cases: I didn't notice until I actually shot the guns.

Each time, I sent the gun back to Ruger and each time they replaced the defective gun with a more expensive model for free, although I did have to pay the DROS fees since I was getting new guns.

My Mark III was a blued bull barrel model, and Ruger replaced it with a stainless bull barrel Mark III 22/45.

My SP101 was a standard model in 357MAG, and Ruger replaced it with a stainless New Vaquero in 357MAG.

I bought a GP100 that had a small but still visible casting imperfection on the frame. But the gun shot so well, I just kept it as is.

Ruger has made some defective guns, but they have made it right by me every time I've asked, so I'll keep buying. I just ordered a stainless convertible Blackhawk 45ACP/45LC, that I will be inspecting very closely before starting the DROS on it.
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