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Old 01-03-2020, 2:36 PM
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Sigh Im so far down the rabbit hole. I have decided AO is a must so I started looking at eh M Tactical. But then I found thats where budget (PA) scopes start getting FFP. Stepping up to say a Vortex Diamondback Tactical is like 330-350. I guess assuming Im already at 250 with the M tactical, is FFP worth another 100? Or go with PA for 250 since its only going on 10/22.
If you are looking at cheap PA FFP's there have been quite a few reviews saying they work for long range shooting if after they are zeroed you simply use the reticle to make impact adjustments instead of counting on flawless mechanics (box test), which they do not have... you will have to decide if a scope like that is a good fit for your rimfire that you probably shoot 50-100 yards.
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So I found another candidate while searching. Seems Bushnell is having a fire sale on their nitro series. 3-12 with FFP and parallax adjustment for 280. The downside for me is covered knobs but they zero tool-less which is nicer than the Vortex.

Either way I think its a better value than the M Tactical at 250.

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Old 01-03-2020, 2:55 PM
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So I found another candidate while searching. Seems Bushnell is having a fire sale on their nitro series. 3-12 with FFP and parallax adjustment for 280. The downside for me is covered knobs but they zero tool-less which is nicer than the Vortex.

Either way I think its a better value than the M Tactical at 250.
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^^^Some are and some in China. Either way they have a ton of returns. "I" think they are a poor choice for a firearm you depend on to work in all weather. Seen too many bad ones. Same goes for the Trashco brand scopes. Especially considering you can buy a good Leopold for under $300 and some models even less. Leopold is a quality brand with very few returns and have been in business for a very long time. The newer companies are saying how they have no questions asked warren but Leopold is the one that started that many, many years ago. Leopold was selling scopes when I was a kid in the 1960's.
Which model Nikon was made in China? Cheapest I've bought was ProStaffs all made in Philippines.


Weaver has scopes made in China, the Philippines and Japan. The Weaver 40/44 looks like it was probably made at same factory in Philippines as Nikon ProStaff. Have a couple of the made in Philippines 40/44 Weaver 2-7 scopes that were advertised as shotgun/muzzle loader rifle scopes, it is the perfect scope for 10/22. They should bring it back.
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Aren't the lower end Leupolds made in China?
The "Rifleman" series[I believe that is what they are named] were made overseas. My VX-1 2-7x33mm shotgun scope has "Made in U.S.A." stamped on it. Very nice scope for my Henry .45 Colt rifle. Don't know when it was manufactured, as they are no longer available I believe.

Edit: Wrong. Looks like the Rifleman series is indeed manuf. right here.

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Old 01-04-2020, 7:52 AM
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Buy a Leupold.
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I have a Leupold Mark AR Mod1 3-9x40 mildot that is a great scope that used to go on special for $250 (I think mine was $250 with free AR mount in the box), but they are $370 now AFAIK... what are some models that sell for $200-$225 that can beat Monarch/M series glass?
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Darn it!! And I was getting ready to buy two of the Black 1000 series scopes for several 308win rifles I have. What to do, what to do? B.
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So I settled on a Nikon Prostaff P3 Target EFR with a Nikon P Tactical 1 piece ring setup. I decided I was adding to many features and too much cost for a 1022 that's going to shoot paper at 100 yards or less. The downside was they aren't really on sale and you can tell stock is starting to dwindle so I paid marginally under MSRP. Oh well I got one.
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I bought a prostaff 4 a couple years ago for my 300 mag 4-12x with mil dot been pretty happy with it so far.
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so something you bought 10 years ago, for just over $300, that is now on sale for $150 and you are wondering if you should have waited?
Was joking...!
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I know Nikon is a good brand and they make a lot of optical gear worth buying, but I was never really a fan of what Nikon did with rifle scopes.

I really donít think itís a big loss for the shooting community, there are plenty of better things to buy.
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I got the EFR in yesterday. The scope seems well built and the glass looked good under my interior lights. I haven't tried it in the sun yet. The reticle is definitely a target only type setup. Very thin with the tiniest dot in the middle. It shows well over light colors and gets lost fast over darker stuff. the controls are a bit stiff but move smoothly. Now I just need to wait till next Tuesday to pick up the rifle.
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Congrats on the new scope!

Be sure to check this CG thread: Bedding Scope Rings - Why?
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Nikon discontinues their rifle scopes
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I bought one of their M tactical 3-12x42 MOA for 229 at euro optics.
the Mrad was 199.
they are steal at this price!!
also saw midway is having a blow out on the prostaff
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I bought one of their M tactical 3-12x42 MOA for 229 at euro optics.
the Mrad was 199.
they are steal at this price!!
also saw midway is having a blow out on the prostaff
Great prices there. The 1-4 is $149, .223 4-16x42 is $239...

I might score a 3-12x42 too. That 1-4 is a great little scope.
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Old 01-18-2020, 12:28 PM
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Great prices there. The 1-4 is $149, .223 4-16x42 is $239...

I might score a 3-12x42 too. That 1-4 is a great little scope.
you'll be very happy with the 3-12.
vx3i quality for half the price
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^^^ You must be kidding. Or you know little about optics. "VX3i quality at 1/2 the price" what a joke. The Nikon return % should explain it to you and scope line compared to scope line there is not a big(if any on some) difference in price. Then consider Nikon is calling it quits and Leupold will still be around many years from now.
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when I look through them side by side my VX3 and this nikon, for $200, this scope is in the same park as a $400 scope.
Yes Nikon is getting out of the business. and I have had nikons for many years and while their CS is no vortex or Leupold. They did come through for me. actually ended up with better glass than before.
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Then consider Nikon is calling it quits and Leupold will still be around many years from now.
Nikon can easily tolerate discontinuing its rifle scope products. Nikon has several extensive camera lines, lenses, spotting scopes, microscopes, and more. Leupold, on the other hand, has a much less diverse product line, so they have to be really up on their game.
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This is 850 yards and just tying to hold the iPhone steady enough for a pic.
I’m looking to buy another one
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^^^ You must be kidding. Or you know little about optics. "VX3i quality at 1/2 the price" what a joke. The Nikon return % should explain it to you and scope line compared to scope line there is not a big(if any on some) difference in price. Then consider Nikon is calling it quits and Leupold will still be around many years from now.
Do you work for Leupold? You've been going balls deep on them.
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