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View Poll Results: What are your feelings about Front Sight?
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Tomorrow the BIG REVEAL! Wife and I are wondering what is left to offer, timeshares?
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Tomorrow the BIG REVEAL! Wife and I are wondering what is left to offer, timeshares?
Lcu is your membership number on your membership card below 500?
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yes, guy I work with is below 100 (joined in Bakersfield).
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Cool you will probably be on the first batch to get the offer email first.
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We will see, I noticed the phone calls started yesterday. If it is worth it, hope its cheap, I'm getting a new car sometime in 2015. (Maybe if I buy enough membership upgrades, I'll get a free FS Logo car?).
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We will see, I noticed the phone calls started yesterday. If it is worth it, hope its cheap, I'm getting a new car sometime in 2015. (Maybe if I buy enough membership upgrades, I'll get a free FS Logo car?).
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I'm quite curious as to what they'll announce tomorrow
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Looks like someone else in Pahrump is also building up an 80-home subdivision, recreational vehicle park, commercial strip with sit-down and fast food restaurants, a 231-room hotel, multiplex cinema and an artificial lake

http://pvtimes.com/news/race-auto-ma...torsports.html
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Getting the calls this weekend. Can't wait to hear about his next offer. I think it is Supreme Guardian or Supreme Protector.
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Looks like someone else in Pahrump is also building up an 80-home subdivision, recreational vehicle park, commercial strip with sit-down and fast food restaurants, a 231-room hotel, multiplex cinema and an artificial lake

http://pvtimes.com/news/race-auto-ma...torsports.html
Sigh. If only SigSauer or Glock would sponsor classes for new gun owners the way General Motors sponsors classes for new Corvette owners at Spring Mountain Raceway. But then Spring Mountain has already had hotel rooms and garages (read: lockers for cars) built.
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Is anyone a member and have used the Front Sight Global Vacation Club?

http://gvc.frontsight.com/

LCU as an Executive+ aren't you given a membership?
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No, I did not opt for that, so I waited until the price went done and that was removed. That's why I am an Executive plus. That was the first level that dropped that option. I already belong to two of these types of clubs (use them a lot! Save lots of money- was in Orlando for 5 weeks two months ago, had a two bedroom timeshare, cost me only $300 / week), so I don't want/need more of these things as they usually charge some sort of yearly fee.
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Any word on the next offer from iggy?
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Just checked, not yet!!! OOOOOOOHHHHH, the anticipation, lets hope that this one is something that actually pans-out! I don't need anymore free hotel rooms, timeshare weeks, memberships, gun rentals, free ambassador certificates, hats, shirts, watches, certificates, guns, safes, or the ability to go to any future FS institutes in other states, or free classes (that I qualify for) now or in the future (rules ever changing on what qualifies).
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Just got to Vegas for PR1 tomorrow. I can't wait! It's been almost a couple of years since I've taken it. I hope I can still shoot.
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See you there, just arrived Pahrump.
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Thanks.

There are 52 students signed up for the class. I don't know how they'll manage that. The most that was in the classes I've been in was 22 or so.
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Just checked, not yet!!! OOOOOOOHHHHH, the anticipation, lets hope that this one is something that actually pans-out! I don't need anymore free hotel rooms, timeshare weeks, memberships, gun rentals, free ambassador certificates, hats, shirts, watches, certificates, guns, safes, or the ability to go to any future FS institutes in other states, or free classes (that I qualify for) now or in the future (rules ever changing on what qualifies).

No wonder people get tired of the crap. Waiting for the email to see what the new deal is. Of course when he first started saying 2 days most people would have figured the new deal would be Sunday. Of course we know it's Monday. Well no midnight email. Nothing all morning. About to ask if anyone got anything yet and... Email from him. Oh cool what is it? Oh it's another "last seconds before I release the greatest offer ever so sign up for memberships at a price waaaaay higher than I just gave a bunch to you for a Guardian upgrade. Lol. Come on guy quit stretching it out so long.


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Oh. Lol. Just read again. Said last minutes. Going to then move to a wave of last seconds. Something tells me it will be at least until tomorrow to get the deal info.


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Literally, Last Minutes Before Spectacular News.


My wife and I were talking about the next "deal" trying to figure out what it might be. What the hell is left? Lifetime membership to the first and only firearms training facility on the moon!?!?! Sign me up!

I love Front Sight.... but man Iggy and his marketing cracks me up!
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The marketing strategy still perplexes me. I get the pyramidish business model and just trying to get new people through the door to up-sale, but the website needs a major update and the 90s-ish emails scream 'scam' to the uninitiated. To existing members, the grandiose language and continuous future promises just hurts his credibility. In my opinion, if they want to make this truly a family friendly training institute, their marketing and company image/branding should try to reflect that. Right now, it's hard for me to encourage friends to attend when I direct them to the website for more info and they lose interest (because of the website). The "ignore all that and trust me" conversation almost makes it like a secret cult, again, not a good thing. Maybe I just don't get it. After all, it has been working for all these years.

That said I think the training is a good value and exceeded my expectations.
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It all boils down to if there is still money coming in and people are buying into the last minute deals, then he will keep running with it.

If no one is buying, then he moves on to his next latest and greatest marketing schtick.
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I threw Iggy a bone and upgraded my GF yesterday for $297.
Lets see what tomorrow brings.
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I threw Iggy a bone and upgraded my GF yesterday for $297.
Lets see what tomorrow brings.

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and after seconds is "moments". suprised he hasn't brought out the "mailing company messed up the latest mailing so I need to extend it 2 weeks so they don't miss out" or "the ordering servers were offline for a couple minutes so we need to extend for 2 weeks".
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  • 2 Days Before Spectacular News. Grab LAST of the Guardian Memberships
  • 1 Day Before Spectacular News. Grab LAST of the Guardian Memberships
  • Last Day Before Spectacular News. Grab LAST of the Guardian Memberships
  • Last Hours Before Spectacular News. Grab LAST of the Guardian Memberships
  • Literally, Last Minutes before Spectacular News. Grab LAST of the Guardian Memberships
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I'll if this actually runs into tomorrow.
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Good News and Bad News About My Spectacular News...

The bad news about the release of my Spectacular News is that it is delayed until 11:00AM PST tomorrow. Watch your e-mail at 11:00AM PST tomorrow and be ready to pounce on it.

The good news is you still have until 11:00AM PST tomorrow to position yourself for even greater benefits when I release my Spectacular News to you.
I hope this is better than the Glen Beck announcement... he built that one up too and it was a snoozer.

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Thanks.

There are 52 students signed up for the class. I don't know how they'll manage that. The most that was in the classes I've been in was 22 or so.
TOO many people on PR1, DRM6000, I'm on the far right side, BDU's, long hair shooting the dpms 308, stop over and say HI! Look forward to meeting a fellow CalGunner! Be ready for rain Tuesday!!
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Are you on relay 1 or 2? I'm on relay 1 at the far left end shooting a Remington 700 with the stainless barrel and FDE stock.
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Relay one. CalGunners, flanking the course!
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There are other Calgunners present. I know one doesn't post much. I met another today.
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I will be there Wednesday for 2 day advanced handgun.

any tips ? what do I need to bring ?

they now require "Graduate" to go on other classes..........
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any tips ? what do I need to bring ?

they now require "Graduate" to go on other classes..........

Nothing. Have fun. Test is new so please report back.

My guess is the only new thing you'd be tested on a static range that isn't done in the 4 day is response from the rear and side etc. No non standard as that's in integrated. Oh off hand shooting too.


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I will be there Wednesday for 2 day advanced handgun.

any tips ? what do I need to bring ?

they now require "Graduate" to go on other classes..........
Great course... I'm heading back for my second round on the 19th of this month.

Mostly the standard stuff... although a set of knee pads might not be bad. You will be going prone and shooting from a knee a lot. You'll also want a flashlight and clear eye protection for the night shoot.

Try to get a copy of that new skills test! I'd love to know what to expect!
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