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Old 11-27-2020, 10:03 PM
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Hi Everyone,

Hope everyone had a pleasant Thanksgiving.

I am looking for recommendations for a dehumidifier that I can place inside of my gun safe.

I looked at a few Hornady ones, but looks like they have recharging issues once the crystals are full of moisture.

Figured it'd be easier to see what others are using.

My ammo crates are full of the small palm size dessicants, but wanted something more permanent for the safe.

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I haven't had any issues with this one. Works great.

https://www.westcoastsafes.com/produ...-dehumidifier/
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I use the rechargeable ones, strategically place baking
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I don’t have an outlet nearby to use a plug in, this is my method
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I live fairly close to the ocean so I do desiccant and a heater bar.
I use a rechargeable evadry E333, and two containers of silica gel.
At the bottom of the safe is a goldenrod heater.

https://www.amazon.com/Improved-Eva-...6547153&sr=8-1

The silica needs to get oven baked every few weeks, the evadry gets plugged into a wall socket overnight.

My safe is roughly 5’H x 2’W x 2’D.
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Wow, thank you everyone! Did not expect so many answers so fast.

This is the safe I am buying it for: https://www.hornady.com/security/rap...ready-vault#!/

In regards to the Golden Rod, looks like there is a literal Gold colored one and another Black one that is called GunSaver. But the pictures of the Gold one are inside a gun safe.

The black one is half the price, but want to buy once sort of thing.

I'll also look into the desiccants posted.

Thanks guys!
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I have 3 of the eva dry E333 dehumidifiers that I keep in the safe, one on each shelf and one on the floor. They do pretty well.
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I have 3 of the eva dry E333 dehumidifiers that I keep in the safe, one on each shelf and one on the floor. They do pretty well.
Is it really necessary to have that many in a single safe? Looks like even the small dehumidifiers do quite a bit of enclosed space.

Is it possible to be “too dry” for guns/ammo?
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live in huntington beach near the ocean. Use a golden rod and a eva dry. The hummity is in the high 40's.
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Is it really necessary to have that many in a single safe? Looks like even the small dehumidifiers do quite a bit of enclosed space.

Is it possible to be “too dry” for guns/ammo?
If you’re not going to use a goldenrod I would say that two dehumidifiers would be a minimum since you have to take one out for 12 to 15 hours or so to have it re-charge.

Too dry?
I don’t really know, but I’ve never heard anybody here complain about that.
You can buy a humidity monitor to keep an eye on how low if someone thinks that’s important.
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Is it really necessary to have that many in a single safe? Looks like even the small dehumidifiers do quite a bit of enclosed space.

Is it possible to be “too dry” for guns/ammo?
One would probably do it but I got a deal on 3 a while back and use them, I think too dry can be a thing but I have not had any issues, I am in and out of the safe several times a day so it gets lots of air exchange. Not just guns in there, I keep documents and the like as well.
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+1 on the heater bar, if you can get power inside the safe. I have an 18" mounted on the floor of mine.
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+1 on the heater bar, if you can get power inside the safe. I have an 18" mounted on the floor of mine.
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I’ve had the same goldenrod in my safe for 30 years, check it each time I open safe. Zero rust issues. If your near a West Marine they carry them
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Man you guys are awesome!

Definitely love the Goldenrod idea since I can get power into the safe and do not need to worry about "recharging" the desiccants.

Have a great weekend everyone!
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I've had this one in use for about 5 years, no issues.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...TF8&th=1&psc=1
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I’ve had the same goldenrod in my safe for 30 years, check it each time I open safe. Zero rust issues. If your near a West Marine they carry them
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A golden rod, a large container of desiccant (the kind that can be refreshed in the oven), and a hygrometer can all be had off Amazon for $60 give or take.

They also make hygrometers where the main unit sits on the outside of the safe with a probe for the inside so you check the humidity of the safe without having to open it.

Initially I would check the status of the safe daily and inspect guns for rust every other day or so until you're confident you've got a stable environment. Then a weekly check and wipe-down with a silicone cloth to maintain things is a good idea.

Lastly, Renaissance Wax is your friend. A good coat on the gun after you clean it and before it goes in the safe is an excellent added layer of protection. You'll probably also find a ton of other uses for Ren Wax. It's great stuff. Don't let the price scare you because a single can will likely last you for years.
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Is it possible to be “too dry” for guns/ammo?
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Yes, it is very possible. Ideally, you want to maintain the safe at about 50% humidity, too dry and you start to have issues with wood, rubber, and some plastics. 70 degrees with 50% humidity would be ideal but you can run humidity levels between 40-60% and be OK. Many folks think they need a dehumidifier and don't even know what their safe is currently maintaining.

Here is some more info. For discussion on temp/humidity, look at the top of page 2

http://www.nramuseum.org/media/94096...vationinfo.pdf

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A golden rod, a large container of desiccant (the kind that can be refreshed in the oven), and a hygrometer can all be had off Amazon for $60 give or take.

They also make hygrometers where the main unit sits on the outside of the safe with a probe for the inside so you check the humidity of the safe without having to open it.

Initially I would check the status of the safe daily and inspect guns for rust every other day or so until you're confident you've got a stable environment. Then a weekly check and wipe-down with a silicone cloth to maintain things is a good idea.

Lastly, Renaissance Wax is your friend. A good coat on the gun after you clean it and before it goes in the safe is an excellent added layer of protection. You'll probably also find a ton of other uses for Ren Wax. It's great stuff. Don't let the price scare you because a single can will likely last you for years.
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Yes, it is very possible. Ideally, you want to maintain the safe at about 50% humidity, too dry and you start to have issues with wood, rubber, and some plastics. 70 degrees with 50% humidity would be ideal but you can run humidity levels between 40-60% and be OK. Many folks think they need a dehumidifier and don't even know what their safe is currently maintaining.

Here is some more info. For discussion on temp/humidity, look at the top of page 2

http://www.nramuseum.org/media/94096...vationinfo.pdf
You know, Hairball you brought up a good point that I did not even think about.

To everyone that has posted, is your safe in the garage? I noticed some people mentioning them being closer to the beach and what not, but I never specified where in the house their safe is located.

My safe is actually upstairs in my bedroom, so now I'm thinking I should figured out where I am at first before even thinking about getting one.
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Anyone recommend a humidity monitor / gauge? Looking like I should test that first. LOCKDOWN (makers of Goldenrod) make one but reading bad reviews on it for being inaccurate and difficult to calibrate.
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There are many styles that are made to measure the humidity in cigar cases. Amazon has all kinds of them and most have plenty of reviews to help you make your decision.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=humidity+...l_24ifw38kj6_b

Therm Pro is highly rated and they cost almost nothing.

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On a side note, one of the best ways I have used for pulling out moisture (when I lived about 100 yards from the ocean) was from H2Out. They are a bit pricey but they do a good job at drying things out and you just pop them in the oven for a few hours when needed and they are GTG. You can purchase them off Amazon or other places. I used the SD306 (covers 512 cubic feet) in my 65 cubic foot safe. As I live out in the high desert area, no need for humidity concerns. I do put a few BullFrog Rust Blocker Emitter Shields in the safes every year just to be safe.

https://h2out.com/space-dryers/

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A cup of uncooked rice would absorb moisture well. After a week, just replace it.
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A cup of uncooked rice would absorb moisture well. After a week, just replace it.
Interesting.
I use it for my salt shaker and it seems to work.

This article says to use quick rice for better absorption.
https://treehozz.com/can-i-use-rice-as-a-dehumidifier

Also says cat litter may help.
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Golden Rod. You get what you pay for. I've had mine in the safe for 29 years.
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damp rid traps moisture- it keeps moisture in the safe- lots of bad things can happen.... if it spills, you need to replace the carpet


Golden rod is a heater... like a 10W light bulb

it keeps air moving to prevent rust- superior in function
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damp rid traps moisture- it keeps moisture in the safe- lots of bad things can happen.... if it spills, you need to replace the carpet


Golden rod is a heater... like a 10W light bulb

it keeps air moving to prevent rust- superior in function
No. A Golden Rod raises the dew point inside the safe.

Else we’d have people installing cheap computer case fans inside the safe.

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the cheapest way to do this is a 60 watt normal incandescent light bulb in the bottom of the safe.
as it produces heat and helps keep moisture out of the safe.
yes there are far better units out there and some even cost less to operate.
just do not break it, as the leds are so great, they had to make normal incandescent bulbs illegal to manf, or import into the USA.
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Post it getting a little old but what about the electric room dehumidifiers? Some have drains that would send the water outside the safe. remembering to dry out my plugin ones is getting old. A couple goldenrods might be in my future though.
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I do not use Damp Rid. After it collects moisture it turns to a gel. If it tips over it spills the slime. Ask me how I know!
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Damn, 2+ months later and I still haven’t bought one. Thank you for the reminder.
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Use a cobalt drill bit at low speed and oil.

Also a low watt bulb or any bulb with a dimmer is the best low cost option that requires no maintenance or emptying water and serves a way to. Illuminate the inside of your safe.
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the cheapest way to do this is a 60 watt normal incandescent light bulb in the bottom of the safe.
as it produces heat and helps keep moisture out of the safe.
yes there are far better units out there and some even cost less to operate.
just do not break it, as the leds are so great, they had to make normal incandescent bulbs illegal to manf, or import into the USA.
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Use a cobalt drill bit at low speed and oil.

Also a low watt bulb or any bulb with a dimmer is the best low cost option that requires no maintenance or emptying water and serves a way to. Illuminate the inside of your safe.
Is the bulb supposed to be on 24/7 then ?
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I drilled out a hole in the back of a Sturdy Safe. No big deal. I used a long 1/4" bit to drill the initial hole through the two layers of metal - I have fire insulation which mandated the long bit. I then enlarged the holes separately - which were aligned by the use of the long drill bit. Installed a threaded hollow rod (the kind they use for lamps) and put nuts on both ends to keep it in place. This keeps the AC cord from hitting a sharp edge. Installed a duplex outlet. Goldenrod in one outlet and and a LED strip setup designed for safes - motion detection turns on the light.

I mounted the Goldenrod on magnets which allows easy placement.

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Is the bulb supposed to be on 24/7 then ?
Yes, Rust never sleeps. You are attempting to keep the safe at a slightly warmer temperature than the outside ambient to keep the contents above the dew point. You are not drying out the air you are shifting the condition at which it will condense on the firearms.
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I use two E-500s, and a hygrometer.

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