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30-06 with 150 ttsx bt 150
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Do to court and work I won't be able to work up a load for deer season and my only day to hunt will be the last day of season. Give me your best load because I am going out blind. I will sight it in first thing in the morning but won't have time for any other changes.
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My best load in a Ruger Ulta-Lite and a Ruger American was 53.5grs of Win748 with a mag primer seated so the top relief groove was showing for 2981FPS and SD2.
52gr of IMR4064 with a mag primer has worked well for my son-in-law. My 2nd best load was 60grs or H-414/win760 with a mag primer seated the same way for 2936FPS and SD14 Hope that helps
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Shoots well in my mod 70 and better in my friend's Sako (5-shot, 1.5 MOA) Last edited by God Bless America; 09-06-2019 at 11:01 PM.. |
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To tighten the group and get better terminal performance you might try 52.5grs and seat the bullets deeper to 3.24". The Barnes like/need bullet jump and speed for both. Just a thought God Bless America
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Thx but I was using the 168 TTSX
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This shot well at distance, but was too hot:
I have shot 150 grain Fed Fusion with 57 and 59 grs AA4350, the 59 grain stuff great. Absolutely no pressure issues at the 100 yard range. grease on the bullet keeps the fouling down and lubricating the case creates a stress free, perfectly fireformed case. I consider these groups great for a sporter rifle. But, all of these groups are contemptible compared to what a bench rest rifle would do. As so I have been informed by a Bench Rest Champion. But then, how is your offhand with a bench rest rifle? Based on my 100 yard experience with AA4350 I loaded up a bunch of cases with 60.0 grains of H4350 and took that to CMP Talladega. That load was entirely too hot. I am going to be cutting both loads based on my H4350 experience, will be cutting them two grains. It is better to be safe than sorry. I chronograped the Federal Fusion bullet with 57.0 grains of AA4350 and received 2700 fps over the chronograph. When things cool down and I have the time to load more Federal Fusion 150's I will be testing these at distance. I know in this 3000 fps world that a bullet going 2700 fps is considered too slow, but I don't want function issues due to pressure, and cutting loads always reduces the pressure in the case. Last edited by slamfire1; 09-07-2019 at 5:33 AM.. |
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^^^ Bullets are not legal in Cal. Must be non-lead.
God Bless America---Sorry but I missed that and since the question was about 150gr TTSX bullets I answered as such.
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The thread is indeed about 150's and that's what I mistakenly thought I used. |
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Shot today. The high left was a hot barrel. The 5th shot was a flier all day with 5 shot groups. COL is 3.205 can go 3.200 if more jump is needed. .050” of the lands. |
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Federal Fusion bullets are clearly lead core
I want to thank you Californian's for keeping down the demand for lead core bullets and maintaining the affordability of these things in the free states of the Union. Still, I think 57 grains of AA4350 has potential, even with all copper bullets. |
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Well, that's what I all ready stated in post #6. 57.0 Gr. IMR 4350 W/ Barnes 150 TTSX.
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Where did you get the data for 4350 powder? I did not see it in the Barnes data.
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Here is the Barnes Data for the bullets I have. I am hopeful the brass gets here on Tuesday and a buddy of mine can try it out on Thursday. I have never cut it this close before. Thanks for all the suggestions!!!
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I also worked up a non Barnes tested load using IMR4451 using the Barnes 110 TTSX in my 270 Win. I found 58.0 Grs. gave me 3240 FPS / 1 MOA accuracy and no pressure signs. I stopped there, not going any higher. This load took a nice Nevada Antelope @ about 300 yards, one shot, last fall. |
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You do not have to hot rod the 30-06, I think it is at its best in terms of feed and extraction reliability if loads are kept below 50,000 psia. If you hot rod, you might as well tape a cleaning rod to knock out the occasional stuck case. I had one stored in my scope stand, and I had to use it, and so did others. That will ruin a match score, and probably ruin a hunt. The service round can be duplicated with a 150 grain anything and 47.5 grains IMR 4895. Looking at that bullet, I would fill the grease grooves with a hard grease, or a combination of beeswax and crisco, (a 50/50 mix works great in BP) and reduce barrel pressures, increase velocity and reduce jacket fouling. That is what the Swiss did with their service ammunition, and the Swiss are pretty smart about guns. Last edited by slamfire1; 09-08-2019 at 10:46 AM.. |
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30-06 with 150 ttsx bt 150
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That’s the exact load I used with a nosler 150gr etip. Reason I went with that is that’s my 168gr garand load (although this was shot out of a bolt 03A3) and a 150 in copper is the same length as a 168 lead. If I recall that was noslers start load for the etip. I’d imagine a Barnes ttsx load would be similar. Barnes data looks a little hot. I could be wrong though. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Because Noslers do not have the relief grooves that the Barnes bullets have they must be loaded to less levels or get pressure spikes. This is what the old Barnes X-Bullets had trouble with. That was the reason for the relief grooves and for less fouling and better accuracy
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By benchrest standards they are contemptible http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...1&postcount=57' At a 600 yard Benchrest match your 5 shot groups will all need to be 2 inches to get any fake wood trophies for 6 targets over two days. Your 10 shot groups will all have to be less than 3 inches to get any trophies for 60 shots over 2 days. To get a small group record your 5 shot group must be less than 3/8th of an inch at 600 yards But you know, I don't know anyone who is taking their benchrest rifle out hunting. |
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The grooves are there for the displaced metal to go and thus reducing pressure spikes. I do not think grease would help considering the FPS they are going.
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Anyone remember the moly lube era? |
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If I had an all copper load for my benchrest rifles I would take them hunting and just use the 30-06 as a backup gun.
I received the brass and will possibly get to try the load one week early but that is a slim possibility. I don't know of anyone hunting in field conditions with greased bullets?
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Lynn Dragoman, Jr. Southwest Regional Director Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA) www.unlimitedrange.org Not a commercial business. URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards! Last edited by LynnJr; 09-14-2019 at 5:39 AM.. |
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And, this ammunition, currently on the market, has a greased bullet. The Swiss have been using externally greased centerfire ammunition since the 1888's. |
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Slamfire
I am hunting deer in California so 22 long rifle isn't even a legal option. And I don't know anyone using greased all copper bullets do you? This is Calguns not Europeanguns so no lead core or Minnie balls are allowed in California for hunting.
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