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Old 08-06-2019, 4:50 PM
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Default Burro Canyon Lever Shoot #8

Burro Canyon tomorrow (8-7-19) at 9 AM. We will be on private range B-2, or there about.
Agenda includes: Winchester 71, Marlin 94C, Springfield 1903, some hand thrown shotgun, always a bit of 1911 45ACP.

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I could make the last Weds, Thurs or Fri this month; the 28th, 29th or 30th.
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My neighbor and I shoot at Burro every Wednesday at 9am. I will confirm the 28th as we get closer.

Perhaps we could lure some of the other lever shooters to join us.

This past Wednesday we shot a family heirloom Winchester 71 that was feared ruined in a fire. What a shooter with military match ammo! The 348 cal round is great fun and a definite thumper. Tried some reduced recoil loads (200 gr RNFP, 13 gr Red Dot) and they shot well too.

This big bore experience has me interested in a Marlin lever in 45 Colt. I have some good loads for that round and there is modification that allows the 45 Cowboy (shorter 45 Colt) to work too.

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Likewise! I will plan on it, then.

Perhaps this may entice the rest of the Mojave Lever Crew to drive up the canyon that Wednesday.




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Looks like me and a bud will be at Burro tomorrow[8/14] to sight in some new loads for our hunt in x-12 this Sept. Should be there about 9 am or there abouts.
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Well, how did it go today?

Tom, did you shoot any of those 30-30 cast bullets, did Sam go with you?

Man, I wish I could have gone.
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Mark, no 30-30 loads yet. Those are in the works. Dennis shot really well, so, his 30-06 is ready. My .357 loads didn't have good accuracy at 11.5gr 2400 and the 158gr coated bullets. Think I'll bump it up to 12.5 and see how that works. Don't want to push those coated bullets too hard. The .45 Colt Henry shot lights out. Good load in that one. Hot up there yesterday!
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Tom, I'm using 12.5 gr for my 357 loads
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Tom, I'm using 12.5 gr for my 357 loads
Ok, I'm going to try that and maybe 13.0gr 2400 and see how that works.
Ain't moving from the 8.0gr Unique/250gr RNFP bullet. Friggin' works![Opps, .45 Colt]
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Oof; Would love to join some day. Unfortunately, the Henry in .357 I want moved down the 'Want List'. Have a few semi's that take priority
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Default 357 Lever Loads

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When not stalking papyrus or Austenite, occasionally attack a furry creature in the wild.

Consider these for hunting loads:
158 gr ACME RNFP coated over
14.0 gr 2400 and 7.5 gr Unique

357 loves velocity. Let me know if you decide to try 'um.
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7.5 gr Unique? Ohh, that seems it might be stout. Where did you find that load for a 158 RNFP coated?
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Tom, I loaded up a few hundred at 13.5gr of 2400 using the 158gr coated bullets for the Blackhawk. They're pretty fun to shoot. Think I need some rubber grips for the Blackhawk

I aslo loaded some 180gr with 11.5gr 2400.
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Those are the hottest 357 rifle loads I have shot. Load development sheets up to 8 gr of Unique. My Marlin prefers (accuracy) Unique to 2400. Go figure.

Probably should not have offered w/o knowing what you were hunting and exactly what rifle. Sounded like you were in a hurry to find a hot load.
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No hurry for a hot load. I don't load anything to max. Was just curious is all.
Think I'll keep the 2400 for the XTP's and stay with about 5.5gr Unique for 158 LRNFP's. Might try some of Mark's 2400 loads of 12.5-13.0/158's. No higher.

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Those are the hottest 357 rifle loads I have shot. Load development sheets up to 8 gr of Unique. My Marlin prefers (accuracy) Unique to 2400. Go figure.
My 92s and Marlin like 2400 over Unique. Strange how these things work.

Now my Taylor's n Company SAA and Blackhawk don't like any of em. I'm lucky if I can keep 6 shots on paper, no way its me
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Mark, I'll bring my minus pin gauges so we might determine your two SA's bore dimensions. They could be suffering from restrictions at the frame (thread choke) or from a front sight dovetail or other distortion.

If that's the case then the rifling is losing it's grip on the bullet. Time for the great good tedious mothereffing fun of pressure lapping! and the building of the cartridges.

But first we will measure chamber throats... if the throat is the wrong size for the slug, then that should be corrected.

Rabbit hole? Do you want them to shoot lights out? Yes! and yes, you do.




Meanwhile, let's go shootin' soon! I'll be at Burro to meet Duece on the 28th.
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Mark, I'll bring my minus pin gauges so we might determine your two SA's bore dimensions. They could be suffering from restrictions at the frame (thread choke) or from a front sight dovetail or other distortion.

If that's the case then the rifling is losing it's grip on the bullet. Time for the great good tedious mothereffing fun of pressure lapping! and the building of the cartridges.

But first we will measure chamber throats... if the throat is the wrong size for the slug, then that should be corrected.
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I think its a good idea just to make sure. I was being sarcastic when I said that it couldn't be me. I have been trying to get to the indoor range at least once a week, I'm getting a little better. The plan is to get a glock 20 or 21 and then get my CCW. I want to have 3 guns on my list, I'd rather only have one of them being a 1911. We've had some problems here at the house and I need to be armed as soon as I pull on to our street.

The 28th sounds good to me.
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Damn! The 28th I'll just be getting back from vacation with wife. Be too pooped to shoot. Fall is coming fellas, cooler weather!


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Is a Winchester 94 30-30 adequate for this get together?
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Is a Winchester 94 30-30 adequate for this get together?
It's a lever rifle. Dang right! Ask Deuce about this as he goes up there most Wed's. I can't make the 28th as I stated above. Burro is a good place to shoot tho.

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It's a lever rifle. Dang right! Ask Deuce about this as he goes up there most Wed's. I can't make the 28th as I stated above. Burro is a good place to shoot tho.

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The 28th sounds good to me.

Looking forward to it. See you on Wednesday.
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It be!

What's it chambered in?



...and, crikey! You're right down the street! from Burro.
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So we need to bring target stands along with targets. Can we shoot bowling pins?
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Yes on the bowling pins. Thanks for the reminder. I snatched some last year.
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What's it chambered in?



...and, crikey! You're right down the street! from Burro.
That one is 7x57 Mauser. I have several from .223 th 460 Win Mag. Not sure if I'll ever shoot the 7x57 - they are only NIB once.
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Oh man, you HAVE to shoot that No.1! Just to see what it can do. I have one in 30-'06[No.1B], and those B's are tanks! But, it looks so good and its very accurate. I no longer hunt, so, out to the range once in a great while and that's about it. Shooting the lever.45 more than anything these days. It's heck on paper and reactive targets. Shoot that 7x57.
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Hi,
Just got back on here, didn't know youse Guys put on Casual Shoots a Burro Canyon.

I want to find out more about that ?
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Yes on the bowling pins. Thanks for the reminder. I snatched some last year.
I will amend this earlier post to say that it depends on which range you’re using at the time. The ROs frown upon shooting towards the ground, say, at the public 200 yard rifle range for fear of ricochet into the adjacent pistol range located to the right.
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Apples,
Never heard of shooting bowling pins before. Wanted to try it, but missed the part about needing to go to the range. Explains why the people at Bowl-A-Rama were so upset with me last week. Oh well. LOL
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Hee!

So I might see if my flimsy PVC target stands might support 2, preferably 3 hanging bowling pins... see how far they might swing when battering them with a nice little leever car-been load consisting of a 270 grain SJFP .44 Mag traveling at 1600+ fps
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Apples, Might consider a simple three pole with the pin hung from the intersection. Wooden dowels. Cheap, portable and stores easily. I shot a 129 at Bowl-A-Rama. Missed several spares. :-)
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Bowling pins......reminds me of the old Southwest Pistol League, pin-guns, compensators, Bo-Mar's, King's Gunworks, Armand Swenson, etc....back when I was 20.....
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I have hit bowling pins suspended from a cable at 25 yards with 115 gr 9mm with my Glock 17. If you hit them near the base, you can get about a 2-3 ft swing.

For more fun, try hitting them again while they are moving. Oh, and don't use hollow points--they tend to destroy the pin in short order.

The plastic coating on them is very hard, and I have seen ball ammo graze and ricochet, so be sure it's safe.
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