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Old 06-05-2019, 4:42 PM
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Default Henry side loading lever actions

Why is no one talking about this!?!

Iím setting money aside now for when a color case hardened model comes out. Iím one of the 1,000ís he talks about. I have a .22lr Henry, but canít do the loading tube on a full size. I need a load gate. Canít wait to see them in stores!

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Why can't you do the top loading ?
The new gun offers the best of both worlds. I think their going to introduce them slowly.

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Yep. Thanks Mark for re-posting that. I'm sure Henry will be offering the side gate in handgun calibers soon. My opinion only tho. Hope they do.


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Tom, I'd sure like to see it them, I just hope they make em like they do know, with both loading systems.
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Side loading gate!!
I am very happy about this.
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Yes, been out for a little over a month. A friend in Co has one in .38-55 Win. Loves it.
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Tell Henry what you want them to make. I did.
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Tell Henry what you want them to make. I did.
I did, still waiting
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Need side loading gate in other models calibers, specifically .44 mag, case hardened... I will buy it. While there are at it .357 pump, .44 pump action yep thats the ticket.
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I'd be willing to bet that they are waiting for their stock of pistol caliber lever guns to be sold before introducing them with side gates. Why would anyone ever buy one with tube loading only if they had the option of a side gate?
Thats why they are only being offered if "off-calibers" right now. Well, except 30-30.
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Tell Henry what you want them to make. I did.
I told them to buy the rights to the Timberwolf pump and reintroduce them to the market.

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I'd be willing to bet that they are waiting for their stock of pistol caliber lever guns to be sold before introducing them with side gates. Why would anyone ever buy one with tube loading only if they had the option of a side gate?
Thats why they are only being offered if "off-calibers" right now. Well, except 30-30.
I think you may be right. That's a double edged sword. People will wait for the side loaders unless they have a blowout sale at prices you can't refuse.
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I have faith that Henry will build it. They respond to user demand better than most gun manufacturers.
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I'd be willing to bet that they are waiting for their stock of pistol caliber lever guns to be sold before introducing them with side gates. Why would anyone ever buy one with tube loading only if they had the option of a side gate?
Thats why they are only being offered if "off-calibers" right now. Well, except 30-30.
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I think you may be right. That's a double edged sword. People will wait for the side loaders unless they have a blowout sale at prices you can't refuse.
And this.

You two got it right I think.

Once they offer a case hardened 45LC, Iím in!
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And I swore I was done buying firearms for a while!
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What is the big deal about side loading gates?

Yes, they look cool and resemble the old western style looking rifles but with my Henry Big Boy Steel .357 mag I think that loading...and unloading the rifle is faster and more convenient.
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What would be really cool is if they included a magazine switch (like my Browning auto shotgun) so you can block rounds from the magazine when you shuck a loaded round out of the chamber. Makes it very easy to unload for temporary situations (like coming back to camp after a hunt).

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I fondled one in my LGS this week. Iím saving up, too.
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What is the big deal about side loading gates?

Yes, they look cool and resemble the old western style looking rifles but with my Henry Big Boy Steel .357 mag I think that loading...and unloading the rifle is faster and more convenient.
They didn't get rid of the tube, they just added a gate.
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What would be really cool is if they included a magazine switch (like my Browning auto shotgun) so you can block rounds from the magazine when you shuck a loaded round out of the chamber. Makes it very easy to unload for temporary situations (like coming back to camp after a hunt).

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A Stabler Cut-off like in a Spencer Rifle. OOH, there's another wishĖ Henry please make a Spencer Rifle.

I'm thinking about getting one of their single shots in either a 12 gauge or 45-70.
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We already know, but I think the interest will increase only after they introduce in .357 & .44.
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We already know, but I think the interest will increase only after they introduce in .357 & .44.


Yep, this. I had a really hard time finding a .357 lever action (ended up getting a pretty decent deal on a lightly used Rossi), but my partner would love if we could shoot at the same time... Needs to be another .357 though.


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What is the big deal about side loading gates?

Yes, they look cool and resemble the old western style looking rifles but with my Henry Big Boy Steel .357 mag I think that loading...and unloading the rifle is faster and more convenient.
Much easier to top off the magazine.
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They didn't get rid of the tube, they just added a gate.
I really hope they keep both. For me, as a range toy, the top loading is much easier. I have enough side loaders.
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What is the big deal about putting your hand forward of the muzzle?
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What is the big deal about putting your hand forward of the muzzle?
You can unscrew them and keep your hand clear if you're careful. Probably safer than cycling a whole tube to unload. I just unload the fun way myself. Seems easier AND pretty much Drew proof.
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[QUOTE=DrewN;23340665]You can unscrew them and keep your hand clear if you're careful.. .....QUOTE]

Yeah. Sure.
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What is the big deal about putting your hand forward of the muzzle?
If the hammer is lowered, as it should be, it is no more lethal than a piece of pipe. Pretty simple, eh?

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If the hammer is lowered, as it should be, it is no more lethal than a piece of pipe. Pretty simple, eh?

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You can also pull lever out so chamber is empty, with round on follower.
Thatís usually what I do.
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Firearms Safety Rule #1. Simple. Well, pretty simple anyhow.

Oh that's right. Silly me. Rule #1 doesn't apply towards rifles with fixed tube magazines.

On a serious note:
Will the Henry Rifle in question feed properly without the brass colored magazine tube liner?
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Firearms Safety Rule #1. Simple. Well, pretty simple anyhow.

Oh that's right. Silly me. Rule #1 doesn't apply towards rifles with fixed tube magazines.

On a serious note:
Will the Henry Rifle in question feed properly without the brass colored magazine tube liner?
When you are handling the firearm, rule #1 applies. When it is rendered inoperable with the hammer down or the action open, it is safe to work the tubular magazine.

Good lord, tubular magazine .22s have been around for 100 years and nobody has thought of handling them as being unsafe as long as the firearm is completely disabled. How the hell else would you clean the barrel with a rifle rod?

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Good lord, tubular magazine .22s have been around for 100 years and nobody has thought of handling them as being unsafe as long as the firearm is completely disabled. How the hell else would you clean the barrel with a rifle rod?

Dan
And the tubular fed lever gun has been around for 150+ years.
I really don't get why people keep bringing the "unsafe" argument up witb these guns.
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Old time MDs who are still with it have plenty of hand injuries stories relating to tube fed rifles. And some of you old timers
know darn well of near misses while reloading tube fed rifles. Heck, the YT guys demonstrating the Henrys don't act overly concerned
and make no or little reference to caution relating to design.

Safety is attitude between the ears.

With that said, there are some firearms designs that are more forgiving than others. As far as the cleaning rod, rifle maintenance is
usually performed off the firing line after shooting is over. Where as reloading, more times than not, occurs on the firing line frequently.

The OP, if memory serves me correctly, was asking for opinions about Lever gun features. In short, with the original design, there
should be little or no reason to ever have your hand forward of muzzle afield or on the firing line. No 'ifs' or rationalizations. And, I could
be wrong on this, if you loose the tube liner you are now the proud owner of a single shot lever rifle.
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Safety is keeping your hand away from the barrel when loading.
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Keep your hand away from that part of the rifle barrel called the muzzle.
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A Stabler Cut-off like in a Spencer Rifle. OOH, there's another wishĖ Henry please make a Spencer Rifle.

I'm thinking about getting one of their single shots in either a 12 gauge or 45-70.

I saw on Forgotten Weapons that Spencers have to be held at a certain angle to work the action. I've never held one but the Italians make a Spencer replica.




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In case y'all don't subscribe to Hickock, 3 days ago Marlin vs. Henry side gate, 30-30.












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In case y'all don't subscribe to Hickock, 3 days ago Marlin vs. Henry side gate
That Henry is a beautiful gun. The loading gate looks a little tilted down, I don't recall seeing anything like that before.
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