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Old 02-02-2016, 3:52 PM
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I took FTA for my initial training.
Pros- No **** tolerating instructors, generally they are all great at what they do. (soft millennials wont like it here)
Cons- Opinionated and less than accurate class room instructions.

Jason up in HB, I've used him for adding firearms before.
Pros- Super nice fella
Cons- really expensive ($40-60 to add a gun)
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How does an online course handle the range time part?
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INSIDE FT3.COM RANGE, STANTON, CALIFORNIA
AllSafe Defense Systems
1026 N Tustin Street
Orange, CA 92867
714-744-4485
Instructor: TJ Johnston
www.allsafedefense.com
This^^^^^. Although I'm sure there are some other great instructors out there TJ is who I used for my training and will use again when I renew.
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How does an online course handle the range time part?
You do your shooting qualifier at a range with an instructor. They score your targets - about 70 rounds per weapon.

I was like a 90% or something, the leeway/minimum score level is remarkable. It's very easy if you have any shooting experience at all - which you should already have if you are qualifying for CCW.
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You do your shooting qualifier at a range with an instructor. They score your targets - about 70 rounds per weapon.

I was like a 90% or something, the leeway/minimum score level is remarkable. It's very easy if you have any shooting experience at all - which you should already have if you are qualifying for CCW.
So I assume that's an extra cost on top of the online course right? Or do they have agreements with instructors at certain ranges?

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So I assume that's an extra cost on top of the online course right? Or do they have agreements with instructors at certain ranges?

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I took TJ's CCW course. I was surprised at how good it was. I've trained with many of the "big names" and I've previously also taken a CCW course with another OC training firm -- and I wouldn't hesitate to train with TJ again, especially for the price.. The only downside to TJ's course was related to the upside...a fair number of the students in the class were still in the awkward stage of weapons handling, but TJ kept the pacing of the drills such that I felt like I could still challenge myself. So on the one hand I had a good training experience, on the other hand I did it with one eyeball because the other one was scanning for safety. That said, you are going to get the same mix of students in any CCW class, so it is what it is.

The whole class was good, but the best part for me was the lecture and following Q&A with the firearms law attorney TJ brought in to speak with the class. So much more confidence inspiring than getting advice from a layman.
+1 for TJ at All Safe Defense. His course of fire is great training, and the classroom sessions are very informative. The staff was friendly and engaging too.
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I'm trying to decide who's class I want to take. It's a toss up between TJ and artemis. I've taken a basic course with TJ before and did the pre ccw with Steve. I like them both a lot. What say you calguns?
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I'm trying to decide who's class I want to take. It's a toss up between TJ and artemis. I've taken a basic course with TJ before and did the pre ccw with Steve. I like them both a lot. What say you calguns?

Where does Artemis shoot?
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Where does Artemis shoot?
Prado. I'm assuming TJ shoots at burro.
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Prado. I'm assuming TJ shoots at burro.
TJ shoots at On Target or Evans. His last class a week or two ago was at OT.
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TJ shoots at On Target or Evans. His last class a week or two ago was at OT.
Cool seems like you have experience with TJ. Did you take his ccw class?
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Cool seems like you have experience with TJ. Did you take his ccw class?
Yes, I took his initial class, plus I requalled with his a couple of weeks ago. I've also taken a defensive shotgun class from him.

As others here have said, he teaches a great class and it's more than just punching holes in paper like some instructors. You'll enjoy it if you use him. He books up fast, so book early.
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Yes, I took his initial class, plus I requalled with his a couple of weeks ago. I've also taken a defensive shotgun class from him.

As others here have said, he teaches a great class and it's more than just punching holes in paper like some instructors. You'll enjoy it if you use him. He books up fast, so book early.
Thanks Doheny you've been a great help!
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I'm trying to decide who's class I want to take. It's a toss up between TJ and artemis. I've taken a basic course with TJ before and did the pre ccw with Steve. I like them both a lot. What say you calguns?
I took the pre-ccw and the ccw class with TJ, both were great experiences. Saturday was at Prado, Sunday was at On-Target (which included low-light, and no-light/flash-light work).

TJ and his range staff are great people. They're 100% focused on safety and positive reinforcement.

What I found to be a great benefit was the guided-exploration of different techniques in a step-wise progression. The guided-exploration is 1) teaching/having you try different techniques, and 2) discovering which one works best for you, 3) practicing with movement. The step-wise progression helps shooters of any level become comfortable with 1) being safe, 2) becoming proficient, and 3) responding quicker. The progressions are also challenging for an experienced shooter because the element of stress is utilized. Each drill is practical.

TJ encourages students to continue training after his ccw class, either with him or with Artemis. I think that says a lot, of Artemis and TJ. Shooting the course of fire with TJ again is available at a discount. Artemis can present different scenarios that would not be possible in a live range. Shooting with TJ again will enable you to continue practice from holster and with movement also not available at a static range. I'll be signing up to shoot with TJ again, as well as trying out Artemis.

Like Doheny said, TJ's classes fill up quickly. I had to wait about a month, but I feel it was well worth it.

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Wow thanks for the write up Wilus. I'm all signed up for TJ's class in a couple weeks. I can't wait.
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I've taken Greg's class twice now and have been very pleased both times. You can't go wrong with this one.
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ANSON BECK at Falconops.net. hands down one of thee best!
I did my CCW for California, Utah, Arizona and Florida with FTATV at Raahauge's, there OK, but not nearly as good as the Falcon Ops training I got. Anson Beck at Falcon Ops is equal to the top instructors you'd pay 3x more to train with for a fraction of the cost. I've trained with 4 different schools and guys like Frank Proctor, I still believe best bang for the buck is Falcon. They run there classes at Prado in Chino.
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I've taken Greg's class twice now and have been very pleased both times.

You can't go wrong with this one.
Although maybe not mall ninja approved, Greg Block gets my thumbs up...
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Nice news piece on firearms training with Safe Insight - Mike Cox.

http://mynorthwest.com/874/2930723/F...k-of-education

His CCW training for OCSD CCW is online with range qualifying.
www.safeinsight.net

He happens to be my son in law as well.
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I'm trying to decide who's class I want to take. It's a toss up between TJ and artemis. I've taken a basic course with TJ before and did the pre ccw with Steve. I like them both a lot. What say you calguns?
I have known Steve for over a year (since my CCW class). I go to their monthly live shoot at Prado as well. I'd definitely recommend them.
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The best part of blocks class is after you leave you still have all the reading materials needed to stay OUT of jail.

For experienced shooters some classes can be a bit redundant. But for us non lawyers the penal codes and case law are very important.
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The best part of blocks class is after you leave you still have all tenge reading materials needed to stay OUT of jail.

For experienced shooters some classes can be a bit redundant.

But for us non lawyers the penal codes and case law are very important.
If you care about the legal aspects of an LTC this is a good reference and an interesting class.

If you would prefer to be yelled at by a DI wannabe while wearing that cool new holster (that you would never use concealed), you may prefer some one else...

Or better still, take both classes if that's your thing...
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Never thought about that!! You mean the wanna be navy seal who is still living with his mom?
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Completed 16 hour course at Artemis. In a nut shell, course is designed to take one from being a recreational range shooter to a self defense shooter. I learned there's a big difference having been squarely in the former camp before this training.

1st day is 1/2 lecture, 1/2 unloaded firearms manipulation: draw, administrative, tactical and speed reloads and effectively stopping the threat (round placements)

2nd day is 1/2 at Prado practicing everything above on manipulation and shooting at the range. Ratio of students to instructors was 2:1 while on the line. They spent time with those that needed it, were very patient while we practiced new skills and at the same time, stress inducing. They take the live fire drills very seriously and had an EMT and a SWAT guy on hand with full field med kits. Afternoon was lecture on legal aspects and a test.

Learned a significant amount at Artemis and highly recommend. Biggest thing I'd say is that for me, the mandated 16 hrs is a woefully inadequate amount of time to become highly skilled at defensive shooting. More training of this type is in order for me.
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I found a guy named Dave Anderson who will do the requalifications at FT3. It's close to my house and I don't have to drive to BFE on a Sunday afternoon
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I completed TJ's class this weekend and it was great. He has some great shooting drills that we did. My favorite was the low/no light shooting using a flashlight. We also did shooting while retreating to cover and that was a lot of fun too. TJ also brought in a lawyer that did a Q&A that is really informative. All in all I would highly recommend his class.
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Has anyone taken Greg Block's ccw renewal class? What is cost and how much ammo per gun is needed?
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Has anyone taken Greg Block's ccw renewal class?

What is cost and how much ammo per gun is needed?

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Give him a call...

(714) 893-8676

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Just completed my class with Ben Smith of Artifixcc.com. I did the 1 day accelerated CCW course designed for those familiar and comfortable with a handgun. Whole day at Prado. Morning through a working lunch was classroom. Law, practical dialog, reviewing videos of real incidents followed by discussion and written test. Then out to the range for the final few hours. Practice drawing, draw and fire, turn draw and fire, behind barricades, around a door and even from sitting at a table. Safety first, very small class of just 6 of us so lots of personal work and any/all questions discussed and answered.

Ben is ex-British Special Forces with lots of real world experience that he brings to the discussion. Personable, fun and very informative.

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I completed TJ's class this weekend and it was great. He has some great shooting drills that we did. My favorite was the low/no light shooting using a flashlight. We also did shooting while retreating to cover and that was a lot of fun too. TJ also brought in a lawyer that did a Q&A that is really informative. All in all I would highly recommend his class.

Good to hear another positive experience with TJ at AllSafeDefense. His drills are really practical and fun.
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Another positive for TJ. He is a class act. Very capable, humble guy.

My opinion of Falcon Ops - I absolutely HATED it!!! The instructors are rude. They insult their students as a form of motivation to "do better". They also teach a ridiculous method of gun handling.

TJ - great
FTA - great
Greg Block -okay
Falcon - horrible.
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[QUOTE= They also teach a ridiculous method of gun handling.[/QUOTE]

High speed tactical mall ninja tuck and roll?
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