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Old 09-15-2019, 3:17 PM
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Default A question about panics and components

I wasnt reloading through the last few panics but I recall people posting about issues finding primers and powder. Was projectile availability an issue during those times?
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Yes, but bullets were always easier to get than primers and popular powder.
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Getting bulk .223 and .308 FMJ projectiles were nearly impossible, almost as hard to find as primers.
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I remember that time , searching on net day n note for deals . Not deal actually . Bit over paid for everything . are we due for another panic ?
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Components last forever, well, a really long time. You should never be in a place that you can't find what you need. Like the sandwich meat commercial, compromise elsewhere.
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I started reloading during one of those panics, primers, powder, bullets all hard to get. Eg. I ended up using WSF for my 9mm load because that's all I could get (of the powders on my list), and Precision Delta for bullets - been happy with both and stuck with them (over 30,000 rounds so far). Similarly I use HP38 for 38spl because W231 was unobtainable, have stuck with it because it's much the same thing.

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stock primers they go first then powder
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Components last forever, well, a really long time. You should never be in a place that you can't find what you need. Like the sandwich meat commercial, compromise elsewhere.


This. This. This.
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Serious question.

Is there a "legal limit" on how much powder someone can have at their residence?

I mean as it applies to insurance companies and homeowner policies.

If there was a fire at a residence that resulted in a post fire inspection by an estimator, is there a legal amount by which the insurance company could claim the amount of powder present exceeded the legal amount thereby they would deny the claim?
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Serious question.

Is there a "legal limit" on how much powder someone can have at their residence?

I mean as it applies to insurance companies and homeowner policies.

If there was a fire at a residence that resulted in a post fire inspection by an estimator, is there a legal amount by which the insurance company could claim the amount of powder present exceeded the legal amount thereby they would deny the claim?
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...d_Black_Powder
California does place limits on storage of smokeless propellant - 20 pounds - and black powder - 1 pound.
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^^ Yes 20 lbs. Been a few posts on this.Black powder lesser amounts.I just checked 1` lb of black powder.

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I shot 9mm more than anything else, and I got the best price by buying them a "case" at a time. Which is about 3660 115 grainers. So I had a good supply anyway, but primers were the biggest problem by far. Not any more, for me, because when supply loosened up I got about 25k of them.

But yeah, when you see something on sale, snag a bunch of whatever you use. Even when not on sale accumulate a little every month. How much is a brick of primers these days, 15 or 20 bucks?
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Primers about $40/1000.
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I recall after the double punch of former President Obama being re-elected and Sandy Hook in 2012, ammo & components dried up for two years. Kind of where we find ourselves today with back to back.. to back mass shootings.
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California does place limits on storage of smokeless propellant - 20 pounds - and black powder - 1 pound.


What if you store it in those neat little brass containers?

You know, the ones that you close with a cupric leaden insert. The containers arenít very efficient, as they store anywheres from between .07% and .6% of a canister. It takes thousands of those canisters. And Iíve got thousands and thousands of them, all storing powder.

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What if you store it in those neat little brass containers?

You know, the ones that you close with a cupric leaden insert. The containers aren’t very efficient, as they store anywheres from between .07% and .6% of a canister. It takes thousands of those canisters. And I’ve got thousands and thousands of them, all storing powder.

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At that point it you could have a truck load.

Problem with stored ammo is bullet retention. Doesn't mean much for handgun or rifle in what i consider plinking ammo but my match ammo oh no. Never more than a few weeks old at best. The cases relax, the bullets stick in the necks, SD's go through the roof. and it shows up on paper at 1000 yards as inexpiable high or low shots.

But to 99.9999% here that won't mean anything

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Primers about $40/1000.
You are overpaying by a LOT. Powder Valley WLPP are $28/K

https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/prod...-primers-1000/
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When XM855 (GREEN TIPS) were going for about a buck/Rd, LGSs in Temecula had minimal 9mm projectiles and primers, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express then, learning .380 projectiles shoot fine in 9mm rounds (.355).
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What if you store it in those neat little brass containers?

You know, the ones that you close with a cupric leaden insert. The containers arenít very efficient, as they store anywheres from between .07% and .6% of a canister. It takes thousands of those canisters. And Iíve got thousands and thousands of them, all storing powder.

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You are overpaying by a LOT. Powder Valley WLPP are $28/K

https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/prod...-primers-1000/
Big5 is/was getting out of reloading and I picked up a ton of them (win) all marked way down.

I hope they change their minds and restart.
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I remember that time , searching on net day n note for deals . Not deal actually . Bit over paid for everything . are we due for another panic ?
First one I remember there weren't no Net. At least not the retail mega palooza we have today.
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Wow, what a time that was. I found primers, but 231 was impossible. Bullets I could find for 9mm. I ordered the buckets of plated round nose. I also found suppliers I didn't know exist thanks to this site. Where I buy local was difficult at times, but he would give me a heads up on what's coming, but was still first come first served. I was retired so I remember being there first morning after a load came. Glad I was retired lol.

Projectiles I ordered by the bucket 4,000 pieces. Receive a bucket, then order another. By the time I was half way through the first bucket, the second would come in. If you have friends that don't reload, you had extra nice friends back then lol. They weren't going shooting because no ammo. Tell them I can spare 100 or so rounds, and they were like yes let's go. I remember the 5 dollars for 50 rounds of 22. Big 5 by me seem to always have them in stock.

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