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Old 05-25-2019, 10:14 PM
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Default Is this auto knife legal in CA?

I wanted to get this knife, but not being familiar with knife laws in our great state, I did not want to unwittingly turn myself into a felon.

https://kershawguy.com/products-page...to-9051bk-nib/

Is it legal here?
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:17 PM
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IIRC, legal to own. But not legal to leave the house with it, acquire it, import it, give or offer it for sale.
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:18 PM
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Auto knife must be 2 inches an under to the best of my knowledge
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:49 PM
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Typical Califorina...it is legal to own the knife as long as it doesn't leave your home...the problem is that it is illegal to carry, transport, sell or have for sale, import etc... So basically if you get it home and don't get caught you are ok...if you get caught on the way home it is a misdemeanor as long as it isn't concealed.

Now the above is over 2 inches...under 2 inches you are good all the way around except on schools campus.
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Old 05-25-2019, 11:35 PM
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Great knife btw. Selling most benchmades I have due to not needed to collect, but I would never part with the 9051.
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Old 05-26-2019, 12:03 AM
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Old 05-26-2019, 1:38 AM
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That knife is totally legal in Calif on your person and out of your house. If you only have one hand.

It's true. Check the Penal Code.
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No, if the blade is deployed without actually manually manipulating the blade itself it is illegal. The blades where you press the little knob on the rear to make the blade spring out are legal because the knob is actually a physical part of the blade itself thus you are directly manipulating the blade itself to deploy, a blade that springs out by hitting a switch or button that released the blade is illegal.

But how illegal is it?

Lets say you get caught with it and the officer wants to charge you for it, what are you looking at? An arrest or a little fine?
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No, if the blade is deployed without actually manually manipulating the blade itself it is illegal. The blades where you press the little knob on the rear to make the blade spring out are legal because the knob is actually a physical part of the blade itself thus you are directly manipulating the blade itself to deploy, a blade that springs out by hitting a switch or button that released the blade is illegal.

But how illegal is it?

Lets say you get caught with it and the officer wants to charge you for it, what are you looking at? An arrest or a little fine?
Stated in Penal Code 17235 and Penal Code 21510, California has strict laws regulating the sale and possession of switchblades.

Specifically, if a switchblade has a blade two inches or more in length, it is a crime to:

Possess the knife in the passenger's or driver's area of any motor vehicle in any public place or place open to the public,
Carry the switchblade upon your person, or
Sell, offer or expose for sale, or loan, transfer, or give the knife to anyone else.1
Violation of California's switchblade laws is a misdemeanor offense, punishable by either:

Probation, and/or
up to six months in county jail and/or a fine of up to $1,000.
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From 2015, here’s one of the best legal guides I’ve found on switchblades, dirks and dagger laws in California, https://www.dropbox.com/s/0rkdy6v2yi...2ndEd.pdf?dl=0
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There are some auto knives that can be bought with the springs out and then assembled at home for display
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Stated in Penal Code 17235 and Penal Code 21510, California has strict laws regulating the sale and possession of switchblades.

Specifically, if a switchblade has a blade two inches or more in length, it is a crime to:

Possess the knife in the passenger's or driver's area of any motor vehicle in any public place or place open to the public,
Carry the switchblade upon your person, or
Sell, offer or expose for sale, or loan, transfer, or give the knife to anyone else.1
Violation of California's switchblade laws is a misdemeanor offense, punishable by either:

Probation, and/or
up to six months in county jail and/or a fine of up to $1,000.
So I can legally order the knife and have it shipped to CA; I just can't leave the house with it or sell it right?
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So I can legally order the knife and have it shipped to CA; I just can't leave the house with it or sell it right?


I think what I quoted is only part of the law. I don’t think you can buy one and have it shipped in, which would be importing. But, I’m far from a knife expert. Just my understanding.


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Old 05-26-2019, 10:00 AM
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California Knife Laws - A former D.A. explains. Also, local laws may have additional restrictions..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoD1pzCj5lM
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If it's fun or cool it's probably illegal in California.
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Old 05-26-2019, 11:46 AM
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It’s legal if your a black Muslim non binary democrat. If an officer catches your with it just yell and scream racist
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Moved to blades, bows and tools forum - where there is a knife laws sticky.
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Yet some Calgunners post autos over 2 inches in the Marketplace.
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There were some Gerber autos recently posted. Seller stipulated they had to go to a LEO only. Is there some sort of exemption for LE?

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There were some Gerber autos recently posted. Seller stipulated they had to go to a LEO only. Is there some sort of exemption for LE?
Yes, like the roster or LCMs.

Someone once gave me an AFO as a gift, I had to sell it to a person in Georgia. I guess I could have kept it in the garage, but I have so many knives and I think most knives are just as fast as a spring auto. FYI the AFO is chunky but there are so many better knives.
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So I can legally order the knife and have it shipped to CA; I just can't leave the house with it or sell it right?
NO! Not shipped, breaks Federal law and State law...But some shops will do it at a risk...There are several knife shops in the Bay Area that sell automatic and balisong/butterfly knives over-the-counter, good high-end ones too, they aren’t hard to find...

If you ever get up to Oregon stop into a knife shop and buy your automatic knives and bring them back to California in a locked box or in the trunk of your car, from all the research I’ve done, this is legal to do. I know some good knife shops in Oregon for automatics, Knife & Edge in Eugene is one of them...

BTW, there is legal precedent, case law, here in California of a homeowner getting charged and convicted for carrying a concealed ‘switchblade’ on his person while inside his house...
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If you're going to get an auto knife you might as well get a good one. The microtech ultratech hellhound in M390 is the best you can get imo.

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Microt...d-Tanto--51805

The Halo and cypher are pretty bada** too.

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Microt...-DE-OTF--92277

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Microt...und-OTF--93007
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I was at a knife store in sf not to long ago, they were selling a Microtech there, the guy said he would sell it to me but I needed to bring it home and not conceal it, when my sister who asked about it, he advised her that she is able to carry and conceal due to being an LEO also EMT’s are exempt too. Thought I read somewhere that only some EMT’s were exempt.
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he advised her that she is able to carry and conceal due to being an LEO also EMT’s are exempt too. Thought I read somewhere that only some EMT’s were exempt.
That's a common misconception. There is no legal exception for LEO/Fire/EMT.
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