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Old 11-24-2021, 10:45 PM
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Default For all you lock picking wanna-bees or, "lock picking lawyer" fans...

They are having a sale on their "covert instruments" website for black Friday...

https://covertinstruments.com/collections/black-friday
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Old 11-24-2021, 10:58 PM
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I'm fairly sure you need to have locksmithing paperwork from the State of California before you can legally have tools of the trade on your person.
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I'm fairly sure you need to have locksmithing paperwork from the State of California before you can legally have tools of the trade on your person.

Legal to own in CA. They are not legal to use if compensated for monetary gain at which point you need a locksmithing license. They obviously are not legal if used in the commission of a crime.
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They are having a sale on their "covert instruments" website for black Friday...

https://covertinstruments.com/collections/black-friday

Wow, just checked the link and I recognize a lot of their stock from Alibaba/AliExpress. Cut out the middleman, buy direct from China if you really want it and youíll save up to 60%.
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Wow, just checked the link and I recognize a lot of their stock from Alibaba/AliExpress. Cut out the middleman, buy direct from China if you really want it and youíll save up to 60%.
Iíd rather buy from LPL and know my funds support the creator/designer than buy some knock off.
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Old 11-25-2021, 1:05 PM
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I bought the Covert Companion. Seemed like the best all-around tool that I really didn't need.
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Wow, just checked the link and I recognize a lot of their stock from Alibaba/AliExpress. Cut out the middleman, buy direct from China if you really want it and youíll save up to 60%.
Their ďMission StatementĒ says their stuff is made in USA. Are you saying their stuff is China?

https://covertinstruments.com/pages/mission-statement
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Not really a fan of that guy. Instead of telling people what locks are actually good and hard to pick, it's more of a "look how clever I am" channel.
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great tool to have in your BOB
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You do not need to be a licensed locksmith to buy own or operate these tools for your own use.

I personally prefer separate lock picks vs the Swiss Army knife type, but Covert Instruments stuff is fairly highly regarded in the lock sport community. Probably higher quality than Sparrows but below Peterson.

These are killer prices on Lishi tools. Lishi IS a Chinese company and their products ARE made in China but are very high quality and used by lots of professional locksmiths. There are tons of counterfeit Lishi tools out there so I would NOT buy on wish or Alibaba and expect to get authentic ones! Real Lishi tools each have a unique anti-counterfeit code in the back that you can check with the manufacturer. Iíd probably buy a few but Iím not that into automotive picking.

Yea, LPL is cocky. I think heís earned it. He does talk about what locks are hard to pick, itís just that there arenít that many, and there are are soooo many bad ones out there. But just because he makes it look easy doesnít mean it is.
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I'm fairly sure you need to have locksmithing paperwork from the State of California before you can legally have tools of the trade on your person.
I'm fairly sure you don't knownwhat you're talking about.

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Not really a fan of that guy. Instead of telling people what locks are actually good and hard to pick, it's more of a "look how clever I am" channel.
He usually does at the end.
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That's more for the want to be's. This site is for the pro's. No special license needed.
https://www.uhs-hardware.com/pages/c...e=BFCM%20Sends
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great tool to have in your BOB
Any recommendation on which to kit for bug out bag? Thanks
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Old 11-29-2021, 7:39 PM
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Any recommendation on which to kit for bug out bag? Thanks
I bought the Covert Companion. Seemed like the best all-around tool that I really didn't need. Got delivered today. Just need to put it together.

I actually had a new neighbor come over to me to ask me to break a lock on a shipping container. This would be much simpler.
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If you're handy with a grinding wheel the next time you change your wiper blades remove the metal inserts from each blade. Yields four pieces subtable for creating picking tools.
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I used to keep a copy of my locksmith training cert and TOOOL membership paperwork with my kit to bolster my legitimate claim that I possess and use these tools as a hobbyist.

The pre-modern cars were a lot more fun (and easier) to get into and fire up. I started in HS in the early 1980s when at work I was taught how to break into and hot wire our company vehicles. I started carrying a self made break in tool and paperclips for hot-wiring - pulled some fun pranks at school breaking into, hot-wiring and moving peoples cars in our school parking lot!

In the 1990s I took some locksmith classes and became close friends with a husband and wife locksmith team. I picked up a bunch of tools including several sets of jigglers and could get into and fire up some makes almost as easy with the actual keys. Over the next couple of decades I spent countless hours hanging out in their shop picking locks, cutting keys, and other fun stuff like trying to crack his demo S&G safe lock.

I put together a pretty decent kit during those years, but unfortunately I changed jobs and have spent far less time hanging out with them over the past decade or so. I miss their friendship and regularly playing at lockpicking with them. I still manage to stop by their shop a few times a year, but I used to hang out at their shop for hours at a time each month and go to lunch or dinner, or conferences with them quite frequently.

YouTube channels like the LPL got me interested again and I jumped back into the hobby and spent a bunch more money on new toys but have not been practicing.
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