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Old 05-24-2020, 6:44 PM
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But days later, no one really knows what the hell this guy was busted for?
From a subjective standpoint. The Goobermint Agencies involved created a BIG MEDIA EVENT. As usual, when political agendas are being touted, with Biased Media Support. Then they claim "Ongoing Investigation" as reason to NOT SAY WHY THEY STAGED THE MEDIA EVENT.

Simply Dropping "WEAPONS VIOLATIONS" as usual vague justification for the circus.

From a historical standpoint, do citizens have a basis for skepticism, when these LE MEDIA CIRCUSES" come to town?

Two HIGH PROFILE BLACK EYES come to mind. Where the Feds are concerned. In relation to their MEDIA CIRCUSES.

RUBY RIDGE and WACO are glaring examples of FBI INCOMPETENCE. Under the guise of VAGUE "WEAPONS CHARGES" ALLEGATIONS.
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Old 05-24-2020, 7:12 PM
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Why were they dressed in camouflage and not regular uniforms? If i had driven by I would of thought they were shooting a movie. None of them looked like cops and the only thing identifying them as law enforcement were some handwritten sticker they put on their back. They had nothing on the front.
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Old 05-24-2020, 7:32 PM
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You want your 1,000,000,000,000,000,000. Of a penny back?

pm me you address and I'll reimburse you.
Are you saying that's the only pile of food the feds have ever expensed?
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Old 05-25-2020, 8:07 AM
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Why were they dressed in camouflage and not regular uniforms? If i had driven by I would of thought they were shooting a movie. None of them looked like cops and the only thing identifying them as law enforcement were some handwritten sticker they put on their back. They had nothing on the front.
Because in many ways the police have become militarized, and have grown accustomed to acting more like soldiers. It only helps to fuel the us vs them division, and breeds contempt. I suspect that for many in the LE community who didn't have the opportunity to kick down doors in events overseas, this is the closest they ever get.
It IMO wouldn't be such a big deal if the regular folk were allowed to own the same toys, but that isn't the case.
Have to wait & see where this one goes.
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Old 05-25-2020, 8:17 AM
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Mom wasn't holding it back, calling the FBI '"fascists" to the media.

These days it's closer to the truth than before.
The FBI is headquartered in a building that is named for and celebrates, J. Edgar Hoover.

Nothing more needs to be said.....

I think the people are finally waking up to this fact.
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Old 05-25-2020, 8:17 AM
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From a subjective standpoint. The Goobermint Agencies involved created a BIG MEDIA EVENT. As usual, when political agendas are being touted, with Biased Media Support. Then they claim "Ongoing Investigation" as reason to NOT SAY WHY THEY STAGED THE MEDIA EVENT.

Simply Dropping "WEAPONS VIOLATIONS" as usual vague justification for the circus.

From a historical standpoint, do citizens have a basis for skepticism, when these LE MEDIA CIRCUSES" come to town?

Two HIGH PROFILE BLACK EYES come to mind. Where the Feds are concerned. In relation to their MEDIA CIRCUSES.

RUBY RIDGE and WACO are glaring examples of FBI INCOMPETENCE. Under the guise of VAGUE "WEAPONS CHARGES" ALLEGATIONS.
But even then, they never hesitate to display any and all weapons they confiscate. Gotta have that media dog and pony show.

Did that even happen here?

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Old 05-25-2020, 8:31 AM
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The FBI is headquartered in a building that is named for and celebrates, J. Edgar Hoover.

Nothing more needs to be said.....

I think the people are finally waking up to this fact.
Yeah, NO ONE seems to cry when the FBI kicks down the door of a suspected pedophile or terrorist cell. All I see are people blaming the FBI when someone who shares their interests or values is arrested. Maybe wait and get the facts before running off at the mouth.
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Old 05-25-2020, 10:01 AM
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I'm torn. It's equally likely they needed that sort of entry...

...and that this could've been handled by a single sheriff's deputy in a cowboy hat with a holstered revolver who just knocked on the front door.
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Old 05-25-2020, 10:52 AM
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My guess is that he acquired some of them "Fast N Furious" rifles, and FBI wanted them back.
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Old 05-25-2020, 11:46 AM
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The FBI is headquartered in a building that is named for and celebrates, J. Edgar Hoover.

Nothing more needs to be said.....

I think the people are finally waking up to this fact.
Wasn't Hoover a cross dressing freakazoid
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Yeah, NO ONE seems to cry when the FBI kicks down the door of a suspected pedophile or terrorist cell. All I see are people blaming the FBI when someone who shares their interests or values is arrested. Maybe wait and get the facts before running off at the mouth.
This. I marvel at people here who whoop and cheer and high five every time a bad guy gets arrested. But if there's a gun involved the mental gymnastics that go on is incredible. Not everyone with a gun is a good guy, that concept is hard to understand apparently.

Left and right are two sides of the same coin, the intellectual dishonesty and biases used to justify a position are the same on both sides, just championing a different agenda.
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This. I marvel at people here who whoop and cheer and high five every time a bad guy gets arrested. But if there's a gun involved the mental gymnastics that go on is incredible. Not everyone with a gun is a good guy, that concept is hard to understand apparently.

Left and right are two sides of the same coin, the intellectual dishonesty and biases used to justify a position are the same on both sides, just championing a different agenda.
Not everyone with a badge is a good guy.
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Old 05-25-2020, 3:21 PM
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This. I marvel at people here who whoop and cheer and high five every time a bad guy gets arrested. But if there's a gun involved the mental gymnastics that go on is incredible. Not everyone with a gun is a good guy, that concept is hard to understand apparently.

Left and right are two sides of the same coin, the intellectual dishonesty and biases used to justify a position are the same on both sides, just championing a different agenda.
Well Joe, as you aptly point out. {2 sides} Busting ACTUAL BAD GUYS is the job. But making BAD GUYS out of average law abiding citizens ISN"T. The FEEBS have a far less than stellar record when it comes to HONESTY or INTEGRITY. Going back decades. And have a HISTORY of doing the latter.

And NOT EVERYONE WITH A GUN is a BAD GUY. But yet we get painted as such by agenda driven leftists. And the Media they control. Who use the FBI, as just one of many Agencies as willing participants to their schemes, scams, and miscarriages of justice.

Need I again point out that the skepticism and even cynicism. Directed toward ANYTHING the FBI, ATF, or any other "puppet agency" does. Is well deserved, due to their own actions.

Hell, even the current President of the United States is a target of their frame jobs.

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Not everyone with a badge is a good guy.
^^^^Also aptly noted.^^^^

TRUST and RESPECT, are earned. So is DISTRUST and DISDAIN. The Feebs have done a piss poor job of the former. And excelled at the latter.

Just ask Nancy Wheeler.
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Old 05-25-2020, 4:38 PM
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Dear Federal, State, and City Officials,

Just reading through this thread (no login needed) you know who these people are that are anti-government. They have guns, lots of guns .

PS. I obey all federal, state, and local laws. Also am an upstanding citizen with not even a parking ticket.

Did I say I fully support all parties of goverment. Please don't knock my door down. It would definitely be the wrong house. I love you y'all .
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Old 05-25-2020, 5:14 PM
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So, three pages of the usual CG paranoia, anti-government rants and conspiracy theories. The MAGA crowd that now questions ANY action by ANY government institution because unless it comes directly from the mouth of the 'great leader' it isn't true.


It's been almost 4 years now, and your *** is still chapped, I love it!!!!



4 more to go pal!
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Old 05-25-2020, 5:36 PM
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Was that Calgunner involved?
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Not everyone with a badge is a good guy.
I have never once seen anyone on Calguns, or even in the real world, say that every one of them is.
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Old 05-25-2020, 6:49 PM
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Maybe this was just all for show to prove to the little people that only cops and military should own guns.... er... um... wait...
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Old 05-26-2020, 9:32 AM
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Maybe we should wait until we find out what he did before we start making proclamations. I know that seems logical/sound and is not the norm for CG or for the tinfoil hat crowd, but take a step back and breathe.

I swear I think half the comments are from people/entities/nations sowing discord so they can get the morons riled up.
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When is his arraignment? Today? I want to know what the charges are.
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When is his arraignment? Today? I want to know what the charges are.
Jason Fong is not on the Orange County Superior Court calendar today. But he must have been arraigned off calendar because now his next court appearance is June 4, 2020. Fong is still in custody.
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Jason Fong is not on the Orange County Superior Court calendar today. But he must have been arraigned off calendar because now his next court appearance is June 4, 2020. Fong is still in custody.
Hmm... I don't know how the courts work, does that mean he has been charged but we cannot see what the charges are?
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Maybe we should wait until we find out what he did before we start making proclamations. I know that seems logical/sound and is not the norm for CG or for the tinfoil hat crowd, but take a step back and breathe.

I swear I think half the comments are from people/entities/nations sowing discord so they can get the morons riled up.

LOL. Most of the posts are from morons. Four pages of nothing but guessing and bias.

Jumping to conclusions is a favorite sport of many here.
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Yeah, NO ONE seems to cry when the FBI kicks down the door of a suspected pedophile or terrorist cell. All I see are people blaming the FBI when someone who shares their interests or values is arrested. Maybe wait and get the facts before running off at the mouth.
Thank you. Thank You. THANK YOU.

This is exactly what I've been thinking for the last three days following this thread as the usual 'tin foil hat' crowd and 'keyboard revolutionaries' are having their all too predicable melt downs.



There doesn't seem to be a lot of actual factual information available. Until there is, the rest of this is so just much time, energy and forgiving the pun 'white noise'.
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This thread is useless. I can't believe I read through everything and it's all bulls**t. Wake me up when this guy gets arraigned.
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