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Old 01-10-2022, 8:08 PM
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Lookin' good!

That's doin' the MLC proud, and as a solid reflection of her spousal unit.


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Last week. A few of my lever Rifles, a Colt SAA, and Uberti open top converson.
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Nice group of firearms there! Like the set-up and area also.

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...ON THE OTHER HAND...

I seem to be willing -and- able to perform any number of attempts to mess up an otherwise creampuff of a carbine...

I'll get out to the "shop" later and measure to see if there's *one*, or "two* squblicious, low-velocity slugs in the bore of my 336 Texan .30-30...

That rifle is kinda high-performance in that it just does not like any of my attempts at building reduced-recoil plinkin' rounds. Bob? are you listening? Bob was there for it's first squib (and the only squib I'd ever encountered, ever)... Although to be fair I am successful in that very endeavor using 235 grainers to build reduced-velocity loads for my Mark X .375 H&H... "successful", in that those loads actually work.

I guess 've been MIA from this thread. Looks like it was a great day out there.

I do recall that squib. What method do you use for getting them out?
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Just me, and my two Rimfires in the Desert.

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Dave! Thanks for posting your pics. It is appreciated, and makes me want to get out there *every* week. If only "it" were closer geographically...



Bob! I had about 3 foot of 1/4" brass round stock. I measured to see exactly where in the bore the bullet is, and also measure to determine if there may be more than one. I had been shooting my 39A and standard velocity loads (40 gr @ 1050 fps)... and with the .22 there's even less recoil shooting CB Longs (32 gr @ 710), so I wasn't mentally tuned in to Squibville Radio. And you weren't there with your astute eye and great ear...

Trouble with these light loads was the formula was intended for lead projectiles, not jacketed, and at these very low pressures the jacketed fare just didn't have enough oo0mph behind it.

With this experience, I'm no longer seeking 1200 - 1500 fps jacketed plinking loads from my .30-30; instead I'll stick with the just-slightly-reduced loads (these would be +/- 1900 fps for 170s and +/- 2100 for 150s)... then work on acquiring the necessary lead pills for the even-slower plinkin'.

Back at the workbench...

I determined by measuring the depth from both the breech and the muzzle that there was just one bullet in the bore and then I simply used the brass rod 's own weight to tap the bullet back out the breech end, where it was closest to. There was progress during it's egress but as the bullet obturated, the need for the mallet appeared...

Viola! Swabbed the bore and it looks brand new. Gun is virtually NOS from 1968... you've seen it.
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Dave! Thanks for posting your pics. It is appreciated, and makes me want to get out there *every* week. If only "it" were closer geographically...



Bob! I had about 3 foot of 1/4" brass round stock. I measured to see exactly where in the bore the bullet is, and also measure to determine if there may be more than one. I had been shooting my 39A and standard velocity loads (40 gr @ 1050 fps)... and with the .22 there's even less recoil shooting CB Longs (32 gr @ 710), so I wasn't mentally tuned in to Squibville Radio. And you weren't there with your astute eye and great ear...

Trouble with these light loads was the formula was intended for lead projectiles, not jacketed, and at these very low pressures the jacketed fare just didn't have enough oo0mph behind it.

With this experience, I'm no longer seeking 1200 - 1500 fps jacketed plinking loads from my .30-30; instead I'll stick with the just-slightly-reduced loads (these would be +/- 1900 fps for 170s and +/- 2100 for 150s)... then work on acquiring the necessary lead pills for the even-slower plinkin'.

Back at the workbench...

I determined by measuring the depth from both the breech and the muzzle that there was just one bullet in the bore and then I simply used the brass rod 's own weight to tap the bullet back out the breech end, where it was closest to. There was progress during it's egress but as the bullet obturated, the need for the mallet appeared...

Viola! Swabbed the bore and it looks brand new. Gun is virtually NOS from 1968... you've seen it.
Chris, when we were talking about this last week, Mark and myself kinda thought that maybe four went down range, you simply couldn't tell where they hit. Glad it was only one and no damage to you or rifle. Win-win!

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You guys might recall that I posted a link to the GunBroker auction I won for a long barrel Uberti SAA clone a while back. Well, I finally received it yesterday - the seller was, well...... interesting to deal with. Not bad, mind you, just stepped to a different tune than most. Anyway, the revolver is a real beauty in person. It's older, but looks to have not been shot much. I suspect that the grips are not original, for a couple of reasons - they are beautiful and not what I would expect on a factory gun, and the grip screws appear to be buggered up some so it has been taken apart.

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the revolver is a real beauty in person.
It's older, but looks to have not been shot much.
3 minutes on Google says that Primitive Arms imported Uberti from the early-mid 1980's to maybe the early 1990's.
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3 minutes on Google says that Primitive Arms imported Uberti from the early-mid 1980's to maybe the early 1990's.
Yeah - Dvrjon gave me the 411 way back in post #2395.

What's interesting to me are the slight differences between it and the newer Cimmaron Uberti one I'm comparing it to in the pictures. Slightly different front blade, slightly different receiver contour where the barrel screws in, no mention of the Colt patent date, and non serialized cylinder.

Can't wait to shoot it. I need one in 38-40 now!
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Some things I know.

1. Levers are the sexiest rifles, no debate.
2. I now own ten, it's not enough. Family pic soon.
3. I absolutely need an 1873.
4. I'm sure glad I bought this 1975 Marlin 336 .30-30 with a period correct Weaver K4.

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Ac, that's a real beauty!

Ya done good!

Looking forward to family portrait, too.
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Some things I know.

1. Levers are the sexiest rifles, no debate.
2. I now own ten, it's not enough. Family pic soon.
3. I absolutely need an 1873.
4. I'm sure glad I bought this 1975 Marlin 336 .30-30 with a period correct Weaver K4.

That is nice. I only have 5 lever guns. I want more. I do have an 1873 though.
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AC, that is one fine looking lever gun; beautiful wood and no Marlin perch belly fore-end! Hot damn!

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This is the Pitbull who desguised himself as a chair so he could eat me, not. He's looking for some attention. Im busy cleaning a rifle. Very needy dog!
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Good deals are found when items are listed in the wrong category.
How about a Colt Police Positive in semi-auto pistols category?
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/920947329

I am working on collecting the 5 different size Colt pre-war double actions:

This is the best photo the internet has to offer showing all of them next to each other for size comparison.

I now have a pocket positive, a police positive and an official police.
The police positive specials fetch more than the regular police positives as they are typically in 38 special while the shorter cylinder police positive 38's are chambered in 38 S&W.
Maybe I'll get a 32-20 police positive special to match up with my S&W 32-20 M&P.
I also have the S&W 32long twin to the colt pocket positive.

Getting the Colt New Service and a 1917 S&W is going to be expensive.
None of those are cheap anymore.
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Yes, I've gotten a couple of my Marlins on Gunbroker because the title or description were wrong.
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This is the Pitbull who desguised himself as a chair so he could eat me, not. He's looking for some attention. Im busy cleaning a rifle. Very needy dog!
Sometimes they just need a squeeky bunny to distract em and ya can get your rifle cleaned:



She chewed the squeek all out of that bunny, thats why it has blue tape holding the stuffing in.
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She is too cute! My wife sews their toys up when they rip them apart.
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Our little Jack Russell terrorist tears toys up. We had a doughnut shaped one that seemed indestructible, but two of them disappeared. Maybe they were attractive to coyotes. She strips the fuzz off tennis balls and tears up stuffed toys in no time.
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Good deals are found when items are listed in the wrong category.
How about a Colt Police Positive in semi-auto pistols category?
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/920947329

I am working on collecting the 5 different size Colt pre-war double actions:

This is the best photo the internet has to offer showing all of them next to each other for size comparison.

I now have a pocket positive, a police positive and an official police.
The police positive specials fetch more than the regular police positives as they are typically in 38 special while the shorter cylinder police positive 38's are chambered in 38 S&W.
Maybe I'll get a 32-20 police positive special to match up with my S&W 32-20 M&P.
I also have the S&W 32long twin to the colt pocket positive.

Getting the Colt New Service and a 1917 S&W is going to be expensive.
None of those are cheap anymore.
I have a restored 1917, an Official Police, a first model Detective Special (with the larger grip,) an old model Cobra and a 1970s Python. I don't shoot the Cobra much due to the aluminum frame. When I do shoot it, it is with light handloads. I also have an old model Trooper .357 with custom Herrett grips. The picture of the Cobra is with some old NIB Jay Scott grips I found in my Dad's stuff. I keep the original checkered wood grips on it.
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Quick family pic. Hard to get them all lined up for a good shot standing up which I would prefer, but I don't want to play dominoes with my babies.

From the top:

Henry case color .45-70
Henry case color .44 mag
Henry Golden Boy .22
Winchester 1892 octagon takedown in .44-40 (1922-ish)
Winchester 1894 golden saddle ring carbine .30-30 (1967)
Winchester 1894 carbine .32 Win Special. (1942 I think)
Winchester 1894 .30-30 (1974) from my father.
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I like 'em all, but am especially keen on the Winchester 9422 in .22WMR.




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Pretty snazzy collection there AC. Very nice.

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Unfired... got the box. You don't see a lot of pistol grip 9422's in .22 WMR.

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Here is the photo again of the rifle rack at the AVGC when Chris and I shot the Memorial Duece McGurk lead slingin' party. Mine at the left are (L to R):
1949 94 Win .30-30, JM Guide Gun .45-70, Rossi .44 mag, Rossi .45 Colt, 1974 Win 94 -30-30, Win 9422M.

Chris' are the group to the right. If I recall correctly, there's a CZ527 7.62x39, an 1894 Marlin and a Marlin stainless Guide Gun .45-70. I'm sure he will correct me if I am wrong.

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Most of mine are in this pic. I really need to stop buying guns (long guns) and save for another safe.




For you fisherman out there. I know it's not the right forum but I thought some might appreciate it. Went fishing with my sis and bil yesterday. My sis caught the biggest fish (4.8#) a good size female lighting rainbow.
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I have a restored 1917, an Official Police, a first model Detective Special (with the larger grip,) an old model Cobra and a 1970s Python.
I also have a 1976 detective special and a 1951 Cobra but those are not part of the pre-war collection so I didn't mention them.
I also forgot the M1892 Army but that's a relic that predates the 1917.
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For you fisherman out there. I know it's not the right forum but I thought some might appreciate it. Went fishing with my sis and bil yesterday. My sis caught the biggest fish (4.8#) a good size female lighting rainbow.
Omphh! Where did she land that 'bow at!? Damn!
Mark, still like that 24" SS Rossi/.357. Maybe we should drink and play some poker with my deck. Hmm?

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Alright lever crew, here is a short but interesting video

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This is the Pitbull who desguised himself as a chair so he could eat me, not. He's looking for some attention. Im busy cleaning a rifle. Very needy dog!
My dad had a few dogs that were camera shy and always gave us that look when the camera came out.
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We are familiar with the first two minutes of factoids offered by Mr. Green, but these "striations" on the receivers of these two (twelve) carbines are a question.

Mr. Green ponders among other things the Winchester factory offering these to the State of Wyoming for a discount due to the unfinished or even defective, cosmetically, receivers.

I'm thinking perhaps that these were some of the forgings that weren't finish machined. Who knows. Wonder what Randall R. or W.R.Buchanan will offer as any possibilities.

Certainly interesting. Thanks for that, SH.
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Omphh! Where did she land that 'bow at!? Damn!
Mark, still like that 24" SS Rossi/.357. Maybe we should drink and play some poker with my deck. Hmm?

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We were at Prado Regional Park. My first time there. My BIL does a lot of fishing locally.
I think were going to go to Mt Lakes tomorrow. Lord knows I need to get off my lazy ***.

I'm not a real good bait fisherman but I get by. Both my sis and BIL float tube but they won't use artificial lures.

Tom, the next Mojave trip lets bring all of our .38/357 long guns. We can reach out another 50 yards and have a little contest. That'll be 180+ yards.
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We were at Prado Regional Park. My first time there. My BIL does a lot of fishing locally.
I think were going to go to Mt Lakes tomorrow. Lord knows I need to get off my lazy ***.

I'm not a real good bait fisherman but I get by. Both my sis and BIL float tube but they won't use artificial lures.

Tom, the next Mojave trip lets bring all of our .38/357 long guns. We can reach out another 50 yards and have a little contest. That'll be 180+ yards.
Oh yeah! Now, that will be fun! The Henry gonna like that. Some fun fellas.

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Oh yeah! Now, that will be fun! The Henry gonna like that. Some fun fellas.

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Maybe some day next week I can come over and we can mount that scope. I'll bring my lapping tool and other stuff. I think I did a pretty good job mounting it but obviously there is a problem. It would be nice to have somebody with more experience and talent to double check.
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I'm sick. Saw this poor orphaned 1965 model 94 in the parking lot this morning and it followed me home. I can't even tell if it's been fired, amazing condition for a 57 year old Winchester.

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