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Old 10-16-2020, 7:19 PM
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Default What does the future for ammo prices/availability look like?

When should we expect prices for ammo to drop back down to normal? Or is “normal” a thing of the past now? Is there any chance availability or prices will ever return to reasonable amounts? (Let me know if this is the wrong section to post this)
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Old 10-16-2020, 7:24 PM
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When should we expect prices for ammo to drop back down to normal? Or is “normal” a thing of the past now? Is there any chance availability or prices will ever return to reasonable amounts?
If Trump/GOP combo keeps the power, you will see a rollback to the old normal some time in 2021, right after the left rioters are out of breath. If "Harris administration with Joe Biden" wins, the prices your currently observe will be considered as a steal deal, and the availability you currently observe will be considered as plentiful.
In other words, you will see no ammo at all.
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Old 10-16-2020, 7:56 PM
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When there is more supply than people need (demand), prices will fall
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Old 10-16-2020, 9:04 PM
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Prices will eventually go lower, but probably not as low as they were previously. People get used to paying more, and companies get used to charging more, unless there are other strong downward pressures on the market.
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@riderr is correct on all accounts.

Trump wins and it will be normal in 3 months,
Trump loses it will stay bad until it gets worse.
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Old 10-17-2020, 5:23 AM
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If Biden wins, gun owners are in trouble. If Biden wins AND we lose the Senate, Gun owners are facing possible complete and total confiscation of all SACF guns, pistols included, that can accept a magazine holding more than 10 rounds.
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If we follow the man made climate change model or the Fauci Covid model, the year will be 2216 and until then, all is lost.

Guess were gonna just have to wait and see
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Old 10-17-2020, 11:20 AM
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It looks really bad. That's how it looks.
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I see ammo and reloading supply availability and prices improving every week. Firearms are still scarce though.
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Firearms are coming back. I see more stock in the stores. Soon they'll be begging for sales. Same with ammo.
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I see firearms are more available and closer to MSRP. I donít really see ammo availability increasing, but prices have stopped going up. Still a lot of places asking for $1/round for 9mm, but most online dealers seem to range between 45-58 cpr.

Local places that sell for 30-38 cpr are generally sold out within the first hour of their delivery day.
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Perhaps we could figure out the answer to the OP's question if we only could sense a trend...

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Even in the best case scenario, ammunition will be scarce for another year because ammo manufacturers are busy fulfilling backorders.
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My belief as far as the gun and ammo availability from here on out will be very scarce regardless of the election outcome. If the George floyd incident wasn’t enough, Covid has really made people from both sides of the isle how important firearm ownership really is. Couple that with them seeing how scarce ammo is and any availability in the future is likely to be swiped up by new gun owners and people who have seen this coming for years. I’m just glad i spent the last 20 years buying everything I could.
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When the contracts get fulfilled and surplus hits the civilian market things may get a bit better. If Trump wins expect gun violence stats to rise and a call for regulation on firearms, ammunition and components for both.
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It depends on riots. If they cool off prices will slide. Seattle has a lot fewer cops now, so who knows? It only takes 1 black guy getting capped somewhere by a cop, no matter how justified.
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The whole thing is just depressing. I went from shooting/training almost every weekend to maybe once a month now because I don't want to burn through my supply. And I simply refuse to pay these current criminal prices. Very dispiriting. I had to buy a new truck just to cheer myself up.
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Thank you all for these informative responses. I voted Trump to help do my part and donate to FPC. My biggest hobby is slowly being suffocated. Depressing
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Either way Win or lose, If Trump wins, more riots, If Biden wins we all are going to buy more and store more. We need to get the manufactures up and running at WW-ll type of conditions.
Who wants go in with me and start up a new ammo company? Cal-guns ammo unlimited! One line no waiting.
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Reload. Just bought 1000 9mm projectiles today for $85. I stocked up on powder, primers, and brass years ago.

Short of that, when prices are what you feel is the new normal, stock up then. I used to swing by Big 5 every month or two in CA and buy a $30 box of SPP's. Same goes for ammo. There's a little hardware store in Utah near where we shoot. I make it a point to stop by all the time and buy 3-4, 50 round boxes of .22.

Did a count the other day and have 23,000'ish rounds of various .22 LR.

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What does the future for ammo prices/availability look like?
You donít need a crystal ball to see that eventually supply will slowly restore and competition will lower prices until WHAM!! Something new happens and everything gets expensive and hard to find again.

Wash rinse repeat.
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If Trump/GOP combo keeps the power, you will see a rollback to the old normal some time in 2021, right after the left rioters are out of breath. If "Harris administration with Joe Biden" wins, the prices your currently observe will be considered as a steal deal, and the availability you currently observe will be considered as plentiful.
In other words, you will see no ammo at all.
This is exactly right, buy now.
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I see ammo and reloading supply availability and prices improving every week. Firearms are still scarce though.
Yes, but you are leaving out the consequences of a Biden victory. If it happens the "panic" buying will just become normal until Biden/Harris moves against ammo, then it gets very dark.

If Biden wins, the current availability of firearms will get worse and a new level of panic set in.

When $1500 to $2000 dollar quality ARs are moving fast like they seem to be now, you know there is big demand for cheaper stuff too.

I'm buying parts everyday, and I have to catch them when in stock. I see $300 Surfire Pro lights going out of stock. Good barrels are in short supply, quality LPKs are scarce. I mean, you can still buy a complete rifle, but you will have to compromise if you are picky.

The reason I'm buying parts, BCGs, bolts, extra extractors, gas rings, cam pins, ejectors and springs, upper receivers, barrels, receiver extensions, LPKs, springs, buffers, etc. is because I think they may try to regulate parts.

If Trump wins I'll just hold on to it all or sell things future panics.

Pistols are around, but you'll have to pay more.

The big problem is ammo availability and costs right now

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Nothing positive in the short term at least until Q2 2021 IMHO. This has been discussed at great length in many other threads and most CGers agree regardless of who wins, supplies will remain scarce and prices inflated. Remain patient, save, prep, research, and when opportunities arise, purchase within your budget. Stay safe and God Bless.
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When the contracts get fulfilled and surplus hits the civilian market things may get a bit better. If Trump wins expect gun violence stats to rise and a call for regulation on firearms, ammunition and components for both.
Which will be very unpopular because so many people will continue to feel unsafe, and therefore want to have their own protection. But, why only if Trump wins? Its Biden's crazy leftists who want to defund police and are pushing a revolution.

In addition, Policies such a releasing criminals without bail, and dismissing charges for crimes, will signal to businesses and people who live in the cities, that the city is prioritizing the criminals over the law abiding citizens. Those who can, will leave.

Anyway, COVID has driven employees home to work, as business adjusts, they will close offices because many will almost never visit an office (like my wife who worked mostly from home anyway hasn't been to an office since February.) Office space is very expensive, if companies can let some people work from home and close offices, they can save money.

Also, as wealth fleas to the suburbs and country, some of the cities will decay, as Detroit did. As things decay in the cities, a reduction in the tax base, along with leftist policies will drive business out, resulting in fewer jobs, declining real estate values, a further shrinking tax base, fewer police, and even more flight from many cities. This is almost certain to happen in blue cities with leftist city councils and mayors if Biden wins, and maybe even if Trump wins.

I see the country in a downward spiral if Biden wins. He is really not a very bright guy anyway.

There will be more authoritarian leadership eroding our rights, more censored speech, a declining middle class as Biden bows to American business leaders who want to profit from moving American jobs to cheap labor overseas. The left will force open borders flooding the US with massive immigration that we cannot afford. Wages for low skilled labor hitting rock bottom, which will impoverish most of America and generally drive all wages down. An enormous chasm will divide rich and poor making today's wealth disparity look like equality. This might temporarily increase GDP, but will ultimately bankrupt the Country. This will make most American dependent on the Government.

AOCs green new deal policies will skyrocket the cost of energy, causing the cost of every thing to rise dramatically. Automobiles will become an extreme luxury, as will any sort of travel, especially by air. You better be ready to wear sweaters in your house.

I could go on and on. Americans are really stupid embracing the left. I'll probably be OK, but future generations will be F'd. It only takes one or two generations to be brainwashed and the whole country can be turned into a socialist hell hole. I'm actually looking at other countries to move to, just in case. Because I take the leftists at their word. "Arrest and remove Trump supporter from society..."---- Keith Olbermann on his YouTube Channel a couple days ago.

God help us.

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Nothing positive in the short term at least until Q2 2021 IMHO. This has been discussed at great length in many other threads and most CGers agree regardless of who wins, supplies will remain scarce and prices inflated. Remain patient, save, prep, research, and when opportunities arise, purchase within your budget. Stay safe and God Bless.
Best case if Trump wins.
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Like last time, supply will eventually begin to catch up to demand. Prices will come down slightly.

But I fully expect it to be considerable higher.

.33 CPR for 9mm vs the old .22 CPR.

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Don't know... got more than I could reasonably shoot in my lifetime. Hopefully when this subsides some of you guys will learn something, but I doubt it.
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I bought a gun with a new caliber to me yesterday.

Getting home, I looked over the my options for ammo and reloading components.

I’m screwed for a year getting ammo for this gun.
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Each election Year fear runs rampant targeting guns, prices go up, demand goes down. It sells, but then it calms for another 3 years. Obama was the best seller of guns prior to his election and he came in and nothing happened. Fear, it gets you card out your wallet fast. Stay stocked
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When should we expect prices for ammo to drop back down to normal? Or is ďnormalĒ a thing of the past now? Is there any chance availability or prices will ever return to reasonable amounts? (Let me know if this is the wrong section to post this)
NOT saying this to be a jerk or in any sort of snarky / sarcastic way, merely trying to help;

There have been quite a few very good & long threads on this topic recently, I believe in different subforums too, so there's plenty of good reading to do on this topic if you are interested.

That said; yeah......as others stated; the Outlook for guns & ammo supply is bleak. Very bleak. Don't plan on things getting back to normal anytime soon.

Buy whatever you need & want, whenever you are able to find anything that is anywhere near reasonably priced / not drastically marked up.

Sorry man.

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It could end up looking like Australia.
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I bought a gun with a new caliber to me yesterday.

Getting home, I looked over the my options for ammo and reloading components.

Iím screwed for a year getting ammo for this gun.
11.3x50R Beaumont M71?

Címon man! What do you get?
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11.3x50R Beaumont M71?

C’mon man! What do you get?
6.5 creedmor. Apparently, its the most popular rifle ammo right now. It's used for hunting, semi-autos and even the military has some guns for it. I may finally want an AR10 platform.

Gone are the days when it was a long range shooters caliber lol

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I check AmmoSeek every day and it seems most calibers are down about 5 cents per round and hopefully will drop more soon. I noticed 10mm Auto was down to about 33 cents a round a few days ago.
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I saw a certain magnum cartridge, new brand name brass, selling for less than I have ever seen it in my life, so I ordered some and am going to get a gun that chambers it. I donít know why it would be so cheap, especially from a reputable seller, but I didnít delay!
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