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Old 10-02-2020, 4:56 PM
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Default They multiply fast......

I just picked up my first C&R gun on Saturday, now this thing showed up.

Skipped ahead a few decades and crossed over to the Axis powers.



Why didn't I get into this sooner? lol
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Old 10-03-2020, 3:22 AM
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Careful, those suckers will multiply on you...........

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Old 10-03-2020, 7:34 AM
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I was watching an episode of Twelve O'clock High and the prison camp Kommandant had a P38.
General Savage got it during the escape.



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Old 10-03-2020, 7:37 AM
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Careful, those suckers will multiply on you...........

Indeed, I originally thought I would be satisfied with just one example of a particular firearm.

But with so many of these having been made by different manufacturers, how can one be satisfied with one example?

The P38 I picked up is a Mauser, but of course, I need to pick up a Spreewerk and a Walther example.

Even with the 1911s, I know I "need" a WWII 1911A1 to partner with my WWI 1911, but one cannot simply get another Colt. I would need examples from Remington Rand, Union Switch and Signal, Ithaca, and if ever I had the actual means.....find a Singer.

I'm really having more fun researching and seeking out these firearms than I originally anticipated.
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Old 10-03-2020, 8:49 AM
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Indeed, I originally thought I would be satisfied with just one example of a particular firearm.

But with so many of these having been made by different manufacturers, how can one be satisfied with one example?

The P38 I picked up is a Mauser, but of course, I need to pick up a Spreewerk and a Walther example.

Even with the 1911s, I know I "need" a WWII 1911A1 to partner with my WWI 1911, but one cannot simply get another Colt. I would need examples from Remington Rand, Union Switch and Signal, Ithaca, and if ever I had the actual means.....find a Singer.

I'm really having more fun researching and seeking out these firearms than I originally anticipated.
I think you will find that the hunt is at least half the fun.
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Old 10-03-2020, 10:33 AM
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Some twenty-five years ago I acquired a Spreewerk P-38 with spare magazine and the black holster with SS markings on it (the holster, not the gun). All serial numbers match and the grips still have that resin-ish color.

I got it from a man who in April 1945 was a young lieutenant in the US Army when he killed the guy the pistol had been issued to. He'd taken it home and shot it maybe twice in the next 50 years.

He wanted me to have it before he died and I gave him more than a fair price for it.

Here's a picture of that P-38 along with its' grandson, Mr. P-88 Compact.
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Indeed, I originally thought I would be satisfied with just one example of a particular firearm.

But with so many of these having been made by different manufacturers, how can one be satisfied with one example?

The P38 I picked up is a Mauser, but of course, I need to pick up a Spreewerk and a Walther example.

Even with the 1911s, I know I "need" a WWII 1911A1 to partner with my WWI 1911, but one cannot simply get another Colt. I would need examples from Remington Rand, Union Switch and Signal, Ithaca, and if ever I had the actual means.....find a Singer.

I'm really having more fun researching and seeking out these firearms than I originally anticipated.
I've seen three Singers at auction this year. Not sure if that is normal or not, I was surprised.
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Old 10-03-2020, 6:39 PM
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This P38 worked perfectly also!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmxIBubIsKE

What a sweet shooter. I know the Beretta 92 series took a lot of its design from the P38, but this old gun shoots just as smooth as all my modern Beretta 92s.

All these new gun folks and the others set on their polymer guns just don't know what they are missing out on.

These war horses may be old and heavy and have a smaller magazine capacity, but they will still get the job done
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Walther p38s are great guns alot of the design also closely resembles the modern day berretta 92 and for the time period was also very advanced because of having a loaded chamber indicator and a decocker which quite a few guns didn't have for that time period they are also ALOT easier to shoot than a standard issue army luger which they replaced
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I can't help myself apparently.



Picked up a couple more today. (Kongsberg M1914 and Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless)

And spend several hours at Carol Watson's showroom looking at the stuff going up for auction next weekend.
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These are awesome, I’m envious. I need to grow my old pistol collection, looks like you’re pretty close to me too!
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I've seen three Singers at auction this year. Not sure if that is normal or not, I was surprised.
There are more Singer 1911s floating around than Singer ever produced

Congrats on the new acquisitions, it’s an addiction for sure. Your M1914 is about 1k numbers off from mine.
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Indeed they do. Milsurps are addictive...

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To say I envy you would be an understatement ^^
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DAYYYUUUMM!!

Finn-o-phile, much?

Yeah, that's a pretty sweet collection there. All Mosins are born pregnant. I've also observed the same tendency with M1 Garands, Swiss 1911/1931's, and other milsurps. They're like the Tribbles from Star Trek, only without the negative reaction to Klingons. :-)
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the WW2 P-38 pistol was used in the movie "DIRTY HARRY" by the crazed sniper "SCORPIO" he robbed a liquor store and took it from the old man

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Indeed they do. Milsurps are addictive...

Now that is impressive.

I was originally trying to keep my focus on U.S. Military Service Pistols, but there are just so many older firearms with a unique history that peak my interest.

That's what drew me to the Kongsberg M1914 when I found one available.

The Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless is what I needed to finally shoot the .32 ACP ammo I have. I had the ammo, but no gun to shoot it with.

Tons of interesting firearms as always at the Carol Watson showroom. Hopefully, I'll be lucky enough to snag something at the auction next weekend.
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Indeed they do. Milsurps are addictive...

Very nice! That puts my lone M28/30 and M91/30 to shame!

I'll admit my current collection focuses more on a wide swath of rifles over a specific type, but hopefully that may change in the future. I'm getting seriously tempted to just focus on collecting Japanese Arisaka's and Yugo Mauser's once I get the last few rifles I need to complete my WWII service rifle collection, especially since it seems the prices are going up on them even though they're still considered some of the last "affordable" milsurps.
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It would be a tall order, but could you imagine a pop-up summertime museum featuring all weapons of different wars. Weapons provided by gun owners from their collections. Liability, insurance, and potentially crowd funding could be an issue. Covid too of course. But to be able to walk through exhibits of people with their collections, and either them or historians explaining the different weapons. Shoot, in this fantasy we could have Ian Host the entire thing. Hickok could sell sodas, great time.
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It would be a tall order, but could you imagine a pop-up summertime museum featuring all weapons of different wars. Weapons provided by gun owners from their collections. Liability, insurance, and potentially crowd funding could be an issue. Covid too of course. But to be able to walk through exhibits of people with their collections, and either them or historians explaining the different weapons. Shoot, in this fantasy we could have Ian Host the entire thing. Hickok could sell sodas, great time.


We already have a version of that with the interwebs giving us a chance to display our stuff without having to worry about leaving it somewhere besides our house.

























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We already have a version of that with the interwebs giving us a chance to display our stuff without having to worry about leaving it somewhere besides our house.




























Lord have mercy!!!!!



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I can always count on Highpower to provide inspiration.
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Man, that collection is *totally* sick.....

You been doing this a while, eh? :-)
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For Hollywood Movie Props, those look convincingly real.
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@HighPower, a museum worthy group of guns. It never gets old.
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Nice HP....PAX
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Thanks guys. To answer a few questions, yes, I have been at it for a while. I try to keep it under control, but I have a weakness for firearms and I have hardly any impulse control when it comes to them. Another thing that stabs me in the wallet is that coupled with the aforementioned lack of control, I have a wide range of guns that pique my interest so when I am out and about, nearly anything will attract me.

I started out with a sporterized Springfield many years ago. Restoring that back to it's military look lead me to want to collect 1903 Springfields:


US military still remains the bulk of my focus, but in the last ten years or so I have begun expanding my interests into foreign guns, primarily because I haven't been very lucky lately turning up things locally. But, I have been finding little deals here and there on junk from other countries:










The OP was right, it is a very, very slippery slope..................
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