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Concealed Carry Discussion General discussion regarding CCW/LTC in California |
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Carrying in San Frandumpo
Will be going there for a few days and of course, in that wretched crime filled city I will use the CCW.
Did I read someplace that they banned hollow point rounds? Is that just for sale or even for use in a carry gun? Lord knows I don't want to rile up the libs in that dirty city.. Thanks!
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On this, Judge Ikuta wrote:
"Because section 613.10(g) affects only the sale of hollow-point ammunition, San Franciscans are free to use and possess hollow-point bullets within city limits….Given the availability of alternative means for procuring hollow-point ammunition, section 613.10(g) imposes only modest burdens on the Second Amendment right." |
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If you have a valid LTC, and you are in a situation where you have to use it to defend your life or the lives of your loved ones, what kind of ammo or magazines you have is the absolute least thing you have to be concerned with.
I'm carrying lawfully in downtown SF right now and every day of the work week and I don't even think about what kind of ammo I have chambered. Seriously, the basic rule is always "Don't be stupid" and you'll be fine.
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I have some Black Talons.. hmmm.. rebel? Bonus question, what does SXT stand for?
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I just remember hearing about the loopy city and their "ban" and wanted to make sure I didn't cause myself any additional problems. Your post was more of the "Don't care about the law" which is an odd tact to take. You could have saved typing with a "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6" quip
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Here you go, OP: https://sanfranciscopolice.org/san-f...ted-ammunition
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Kids are looking forward to Alcatraz, Fishermans Warf, Lombard Street and Chinatown.. should be fun. Where's the best gun store in the city? (sorry, that was a trick question)
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I run Winchester SXT .. thank goodness it's not Black Talon!! lol
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lol.. yep.. but the bullets aren't a scary black color or have a scary name.. save us from this stupid state.
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Its not just the hollow point (by name) as noted above, but they have a city code that is very prohibitive.
http://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/California/police/article36prohibitingthecarryingofafirear?f=templat es$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:sanfrancisco_ca$ anc=JD_3603 Quote:
and you can't carry on any city or county property (parks, public buildings, etc) http://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/California/police/article9miscellaneousconductregulations?f=template s$fn=altmain-nf.htm$q=[field%20folio-destination-name:%27617%27]$x=Advanced#JD_617 Quote:
So just plan carefully where you go |
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http://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/California/police/article9miscellaneousconductregulations?f=template s$fn=altmain-nf.htm$q=[field%20folio-destination-name:%27617%27]$x=Advanced#JD_617 Quote:
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It will be lovely to see Gavin turn CA into one big San Fran.. Let this sink in.. the Police are supposed to create a database, but if they don't or they leave one off by mistake you are STILL on the hook for a crime.. Quote:
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A little comedy to start your day... It is not even one of the safest cities in the US. https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca...rancisco/crime "Crime Index 97% of US cities are safer. Would you buy a car with this kind of safety rating? Carry if you can. Visit only if you must... We avoid this stinking, crime ridden, democrat run city like the plague it has become...
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April 2013 SFPD Ordinance webpage.. Unchanged from that date.
2013 discussion. 2015 discussion. Not much new to add, and zero reports of thousands of CCW’ers being cited/arrested.
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LOL to this. Not true Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I've been to shootings and stabbings on more than "a couple" of blocks in SF.
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Fixed it for you.
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There are a few Chinese restaurants there, one of which Mrs obama frequents, food is good there. Tbh, other than Alcatraz I wasn’t that impressed and it will probably be another 15 years before I’d be interested in going back. |
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That is why I posted Alcatraz is off-limits earlier. You cannot carry on the ferry. They are considered a common carrier and have prohibited firearms.
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Can't it also be argued that since Alcatraz is a National Park and that the actual reason for going is to go inside the building which is Federal property where Federal employees are employed thus meeting the definition of "federal facility"
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No argument from me there...
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You need to be a bit more specific. Which ferry system?
Alcatraz is not a national park. There are 2 different ferry services running on SF Bay, and the trip to Alcatraz is a tour not a public ferry service. |
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Is your argument that is it not a "National Park", only administered by the NPS? |
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So the line you quoted even say's that it is part of the Golden Gate National Recreation Area, not a National Park. I never said that the buildings are not federal buildings, since they have been since it was a fort in the middle of the bay.
Here is a link to a list of National Park's Alcatraz is not among them. https://www.nationalpark-adventures....nal-parks.html |
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Sorry, thought you were talking about Alcatraz. I am not sure on the Golden Gate Ferry from Larkspur.
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Someone correct me if I’m wrong. Maritime Law indicates that territorial waters are under State law. There were no warnings or signage with regard to our concerns. Only notice was that all are subject to search in heightened security situations.
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