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Concealed Carry Discussion General discussion regarding CCW/LTC in California |
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So I took my CCW renewal class today....
Took my CCW renewal class today. Found out during the 1st 5 minutes that Gov. Jerry Brown changed the rules last Friday: renewing CCW holders now have to qualify with each gun they want listed on their CCW permit (in the past live fire qualification was not required for renewals, so I wasn’t planning on shooting today and I didn’t have all the needed guns, ammo, misc. shooting equipment with me) and now only 3 guns are permitted. On top of that, the educational handout stated that there was a $22.xx additional fee for each gun you wanted added to the permit. My current CCW permit has 4 guns listed, was planning on adding a 5th.
Adding to this frustration, with these very recent changes, the class instructors were only partially aware of the CCW permit change details. One of the instructors stated to me that the 3 gun limit was not part of Gov. Jerry Brown’s action, but that it was being made unilaterally by the Tuolumne County Sheriff.... which really frustrated me because I was told in my initial CCW permit interview by the sheriff officer conducting the interview that our Sheriff was a Constitutionalist. After personally contacting the Sheriff’s Office later that day to confirm all the CCW regulation changes, I learned that this wasn’t true. Our good Governor and his Sacramento Democratic friends are the sole reason for this latest eroding of our 2A Rights. Please note, I have no ill feelings towards the organization that conducted my CCW renewal class today. I’ve taken multiple classes with them in the past and I will continue to do so in the future. They just got these latest regulation changes this week and were doing their best to educate themselves and their students. I’m also relieved (and very thankful) to hear that our Tuolumne County Sheriff didn’t add additional layers of regulation or cost to our already over regulated and costly 2A CCW Rights. (Please note: I also posted this in the Tuolumne CCW specific area, but thought this might be of interest to folks outside of Tuolumne County) |
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There is nothing in the new law about the number of guns. It sounds like your issuing agency made a change to their policy. Three guns is the max number for many agencies, sadly.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...01720180AB2103 Quote:
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my buddy is in el dorado though and told me they dont have a limit. he has 5 on his CCW. |
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It does not take effect till Jan 1, 2019 so there should not have been a need to have all your guns available.
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It's been like that in Sacramento forever and Jerry Brown had nothing to do with it.
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Me too. And we always had to qual with each gun, this law has changed nothing for us. I guess we can be thankful for that at least, it could be worse.
It could be that issuing agencies are getting a head start, they do not have to wait. They can change their policy on a whim. |
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My IA already requires me to qualify with each firearm to be listed. Imo I believe that each firearm to be listed should be qualified with. The amount of people Ive seen on the range and at courses that can’t shoot for sh— I mean 5yds and cant even keep shots on target barely missing the edge of the paper target. Barely familiar with their firearms etc. smh
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It is a slippery slope if you are going to go for the worst case scenario for regulations etc.. If the CCW holder is so bad a shot and in the unlikely event of an encounter he/she shoots someone else instead of the perp, it is on her/him. Personal responsibility trumps nanny state in my view.
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By your standards, everybody should be taking a driving test every two years, and they would have to be tested on each car they own/normally drive. The vehicles would be listed on the license. And it will all be controlled by the DMV.
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Just renewed in Tulare County. First time we have had to live fire qualify, I have five on the new plastic CCW card listed on the back and it looks like there's room for another five.
Criteria was to fire one complete magazine or cylinder per weapon at seven yards and hit the target over 50% of each. The "target" was a standard cardboard target backer about 20"x30" and hiting it anywhere counted as a hit. It was so easy that I qualified my tiny NAA .22LR. |
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However, that does not mean we need to have real stringent tests to prevent people from getting CCWs. Again, it comes to personal responsibility.
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I dunno why you guys are whining about qualing with ur carry guns. According to ur logic every person has the right to be issued a DL is and considered a “proficient” driver. Get over it fellas. We are already screwed. Us peasants are already paying for our 2a rights. We try not to screw it up some more with idiots that dont know the difference from the muzzle to the back of the gun. It just helps weed out the morons. My guess is u guys dont do public ranges much. All it takes is one idiot to ruin ur day or end ur life or others
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And also pass a road test with every make of car they would drive every time they renew their license. I took one road test back in 1976 when I was in college for my initial license. Since then I have only taken the written exam for a multitude of renewals.
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