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Torrance PD denying people of their 2A rights
Maybe this belongs in the Concealed Carry area, if so, so shall it be moved. In any case I stumbled across this video and it's infuriating to say the least. If you have seen it I apologize but if you haven't, it's worth watching to see how stonewalling is used to deny you your rights. I have heard the same tactic being used by many other law enforcement agencies all over and where I live in Riverside County.
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LOL....maybe the ones who got approved in better time frames weren’t azzhat videobloggers
Move to Orange County.....3 months .
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Old news. I have lived here for 30 years. They won't give in.
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"Riverside, California Sheriff Stan Sniff Sued for “Discriminatory and Unconstitutional” Handgun Carry Policies in Federal Court"
https://www.calgunsfoundation.org/ri...tOfosqn80qmmHc
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We are either for 2nd Amendment rights or we are not. The guy made an excellent video detailing how this particular LEA is denying people their right to a fair process. I guess you are okay with that? |
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This is very close to what happened to me at the Colusa County Sheriff's office. Only difference was that they would not accept my application, and sent it back when I mailed it. See my crime was living within city limits, and the good Sheriff would not accept applications from those who live within city limits. I hope the new Sheriff is more in line with the law, but I will find out when I move back in a couple of years.
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"May Issue" means something. For those who want to know the right way to approach a non "Self Defense = Good Cause" issuing agency, see the first 3 posts at: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1482924 But don't post in that thread unless you live in CoCoCo and need advice on applying to their Sheriff.
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Dunno, I didn’t have to go pester the Sheriffs Dept. or Police to get my stuff done. I didn’t have to go sticking a video cam in officer’s faces. Just the fact that he proved others were getting their interviews before him raises questions with me about his history/good cause/motivations. Other people got it done, what’s the matter with him? .
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Apparently connections.
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This is the type of viewpoint or mentality that years of compartmentalization and marginalization has created. He is not a prohibited person by all accounts as far as can be shown through the little information we have on him. Being jerked around for 18 months for no good reason is reason enough for anyone, even with the most patience in the world, to be pissed off.
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So this is NOT about qualifications; it isn't even about cameras (FIRST AMENDEMENT). Quote:
What is a "good cause" in your mind? When the government decides your life is worth giving you the right to protect it? That comment leaves me scratching my head, especially in this forum dedicated to 2nd Amendment constitutional rights. Are you not in favor of 'shall issue' as the correct policy for CCW? The fact is the Torrance Police Dept does not like this particular person because he is using his 1st Amendment rights to document the CCW process; therefore, that is a problem with this police dept (i.e., GOVERNMENT), If they are uncomfortable with having a camera on them, they need to get over that; they have cameras on us 24/7-- so like it or not they are public SERVANTS, they don't get to decide what they like or do not like when it comes to citizens oversight. If that bothers them, find new careers. Here is another video by the same person. I think the video is done well and sort of demonstrates what he does and why SOME police officers don't like him. One of the officers in this video comes off looking "disingenuous" and the citizen mentions that, and the officer doesn't even seem to know what the word disingenuous means--that officer thinks "disingenuous" is the opposite of "generous". I found that to be the most bothersome part of this video; a lack of basic English language skills. dis·in·gen·u·ous /ˌdisənˈjenyo͞oəs/ adjective adjective: disingenuous not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. synonyms: insincere, dishonest, untruthful, false, deceitful, duplicitous, lying, mendacious; hypocritical |
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Triggered much? Hey, I’m not going to go view this videoblogger’s life history....how would I know if “others” turn out to be “mainly friends or family of LEOs”? Now is it “mainly” or “all”? Don’t claim you know his background...... The FACT is, there is no “shall issue” issue involved here, so why question my beliefs on that? Whether I was in favor of “shall issue” or not has nothing to do with his complaint or situation. What a joke.....nice stretch, lol. Don’t drag me into one of your odious diatribes on politics, race, and laws.....most of us know where you reside. Merry Christmas, lol .
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Why would you say that? Nothing in my reply to you was personal or inflammatory, I was only questioning why you or anyone else would feel that a citizen--- any citizen who is not a restricted person, should not be entitled to a CCW?
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I posted the other video he made of a LAPD traffic stop because it was representative of what he does. This isn't a 'BLM' guy, not a "sovereign citizen type"--- just a guy who records the police in an effort to educate the public and also educate the police. 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, 4th Amendment. This citizen is pro on all 3. I see nothing wrong with that. Quote:
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For the record, are you shall issue or not? Just curious. Quote:
Race, politics???? I thought the discussion was 2nd Amendment rights as it pertains to a CCW. What on Earth are you talking about? FWIW, the guy in this video was out making an effort to elect a pro -2nd Amendment PRO shall issue candidate for Sheriff in Los Angeles county. The same candidate officially endorsed by Calguns. So whether you like him personally or not, he is not in my opinion "the enemy". I've spoken with him personally, and while I don't agree with all of his opinions in his videos, he is a pretty regular guy, not a criminal, and pro 2nd Amendment. Would you like to explain that remark? Do you mean my personal residence or something else? Because if you are talking about my personal residence then I wonder how I am supposed to take that? Just want to be sure you didn't mean that as a threat is all, because that kind of talk would not be cool. A little early for that. Quote:
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BINGO! Thanks for posting that. Apparently some people need to be reminded that our constitutional rights are not meant to be doled out conveniently to those sheep who are meekly lined up at the trough of the government. Police work for US, they don't get to apply the law or the policies based on who their pals are or are not. What the video detailed was nothing less than government corruption in my opinion. thanks! Lex |
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Is Onus the guy who films all the DUI checkpoints and talks crap about police on his channel?
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I think you are thinking Tom Zebra. The two know each other, and I think Zebra tends to talk out of his back end a lot. But this guy "Katman" (Onus News) is for the most part pretty fair and balanced. Some of the other around him probably not so much.
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The guy may have some previous issues with Torence P.D. but that is no excuse for them to lie to him and jerk him around like they did .Makes me wonder what else the P.D. will decide to lie about will they plant evidence at crime scenes , lie about what they see all because they know what is best . Someone needs to be severly disaplined up to being fired. I feel sorry for the 99% of P.D. that do the right thing even with difficult people .
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I don't agree with some of the stances this guy has, but he did us all a favor for this investigative journalism.
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Nice to see that you support "may issue" and defend the fruits of that policy
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Reminding us of 'what is the law' is not the same as endorsing the law in any aspect.
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CA is currently "May Issue." If you don't want to play the "May Issue" game, don't apply.
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We expect our LEAs to be professional and unbiased. When they demonstrate bias and pettiness it only makes their own jobs more difficult in the big picture. |
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