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The Fix 6.5 Creedmoor
Got a Fix by Q in 6.5cm coming next week. New to LR shooting. Atlas V8 bipod on standby, having difficulty finding Q-sert direct mounts. Need advice on optics, $1500-$2000 range. FFP and mil dot preferred. I have my eye on the Eotech Vudu 5-25x50 mainly due to its size but I'm getting mixed reviews. Planning to shoot from 500-700 yards and work up, doubt I'll even try past 1000 yards. Any other advice for a beginner LR shooter would be much appreciated. Thank you all.
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Night Force NX8 4-32 Mil XT reticle. I’m new to long range and have a range close to me that goes out to 2k. You can find good info on here, but also jump on Snipers Hide forum. Check their px you can find good deals on optics.
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Noted. That NF sounds good. Dont know if i'll need all that magnification but considering the price and the NF name, i might just jump on that. Made a snipers hide account too. Thank you
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check out the sniper 101 series on you tube
it will give you an overload of info.. you can figure out what applies to you when looking at any rifles / accessory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2XrL7B9-8c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wBr_brpSYk SNIPER 101 Part 20 - Effective Reticles and Objective Lens Sizes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53LTp4prwkY SNIPER 101 Part 19 - Scope Magnification Values https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj76nrVnMOU SNIPER 101 Part 17 - TOP Sniper Scopes in History - Overview
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjRFRcUjf3g
SNIPER 101 Part 57 - Scope Mount and Rings Installation & Discussion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPrHriDWcIk REVIEW - Unertl, US Optics, Vortex Razor HD - SNIPER 101 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTca3wF35Og SNIPER 101 Part 14 - Scopes for Extreme Long Range Shooting - Rex Reviews
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Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs) Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT (thanks to Jeff Cooper) |
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if you join https://www.precisionrifleseries.com/
they have discounts with many PRS manufactures... bags- brakes- gear -etc and Sniper's Hide forum has some good info too
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Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs) Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT (thanks to Jeff Cooper) |
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rex talks a lot
rex chats a lot or maybe too much on the PC its easy to skip ahead...
there is nothing as deflating to me as buying something and then realizing I picked up the wrong gear... Attend a PRS match- normally some really like minded people... a wide variety of gear.. people are normally very open to questions- what scope did you have before this one? why did you the prior scope? What bag are you running? etc buying correctly once is a great feeling... knowing why you are hitting and knowing why your missing is a great thing...
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Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs) Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT (thanks to Jeff Cooper) Last edited by hermosabeach; 02-05-2021 at 2:52 PM.. |
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I don’t need it either, I was shooting at 1150 with an 18” 6.5 cm making hits and never went above 12X. It’s always nice having the extra power for observation purposes. I have the tremor 3 reticle and wish I would have went with the Mil XT. Also StrelokPro app is a good purchase.
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Thanks for your input everyone, I really do appreciate it. I got a good deal from another calgunner on a eotech vudu 3.5-18x50 so that's that. Now let's talk mounts; stuck between the scalarworks LEAP, geissele super precision, the adm recon or maybe the bobro standard precision mount. I like the scalarworks for the weight and leveling device built into it. I have experience with the geissele sp mounts, running one on a radian mod1 right now, like it a lot. I keep hearing about how amazing the adm recon is at keeping zero after being unmounted. I would prefer a QD system and i will be removing the mount/optic often as i travel with the rig. If anyone has experience with any of these mounts, i'd love to hear your opinion. Thanks again
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i have the ADM quick detach mount....it's worked out well for me and i'm not disapointed in the mount however, were i to do it over i'm not sure the quick detach function is all that worthwhile.
I say this because prior to shooting i like to confirm that the base nuts are properly torqued...so from a practical perspective a standard single unit fixed mount ends up working the same and costing less. Regardless of the system you ultimately choose, i like to mark with a drop of paint the forward and rearward extent of where the mount locates on the picatinny rail so it's quick/easy and repeatable. glad you didn't end up with mil-dots.....not a big fan, i understand some prefer it for a hunting platform using commercial ammunition but for long range shooting where one might often alter loads it can in my experience prove to be a bit challenging don't forget a good shooting bag Last edited by mtenenhaus; 02-07-2021 at 11:30 AM.. |
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As for tips? What are you looking for? Get a level , know how to load a Bipod, learn proper shooting position and Natural point of aim. List goes on and on. Get a tripod next to open up your world do more shooting Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk |
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If you only shooting out to 700 maybe further later, no reason to break the bank. Athlon, burris and vortex. Spend 5 to 800 and save the rest for whatever else you want. Expensive doesnt always mean best. Hell you think Atlas spends more then $50 making thier bipod. Good gear is nice and it's ok the splurge but you really dont have to.
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Finally got my fix. A good buddy of mine send me a q sert direct mount for the atlas bt10. Eotech vudu 3.5-18x50 on an ADM Recon-SL qd mount. Will be using a cole tac big boss rear bag. Shooting hornady ELD match 129 and 140gr and nosler 140gr accubond trophy grade.Will post groups if you guys are interested once i get out to the range next week . Thanks for everything everyone
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One more pic w stock folded and optic/mount torqued down and leveled. Enjoy
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Thanks Mark, appreciate you brother. That vudu found its permanent home
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I'm curious what kind of velocity you will get with the standard 6.5 Creed loads out of the short barrel.
The ballistics data for the 6.5 Creedmoor is usually based on 24" barrels so you are going to lose 300 - 400 fps with the shorter barrel. This will increase the drop and wind deflection at 1,000 yards to 308 Win level performance, negating all the advantages of the Creed except for the reduced recoil.
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Side note, I have a 26” Proof CF blank if you’re interested. |
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That's less than 200 fps under slower than the factory loads but you may be loading to higher pressures. You also have 2" more barrel than the OP's rifle so he'll lose a little more. At standard temperature and pressure, you're looking at 34 minutes of drop at 1,000 yards and 7 minutes with a 10 mph wind.
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