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Old 02-10-2019, 10:10 PM
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I live in a constitutional state so I can carry what I want, when I want so in the colder months I carry a Sig 1911 tac ops in 45 auto while warmer months I carry a Glock 36.
I have two steel silhouettes on my property so I shoot 1-2 mags usually twice a week.

The mentality of California's laws make it so its hard to shoot, hard to own, hard to find ammo and the biggest issue its hard to get a CCW.
If you aren't training with your carry gun your doing a disservice not only to yourself but anyone around you.
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:20 PM
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I'd venture to say that the average ccw'er/calgunner cycles many more rounds and range time than the average police officer does (off duty...and maybe even if you count qual) in a year, too.
I would hope you are correct. However I am sure there are many people that carry that do not frequent this or any other forum.
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They should but that is not what I understand... I am told many carry without actually doing any range time or training.

Some states don't require any class or training to carry. CA only requires an eight hour class and thirty rounds down range for a CCW.
Who told you that?
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Who told you that?
https://www.thetrace.org/2016/02/liv...carry-permits/
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:22 PM
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Me no clicky. What’s it say. And who the hell is “the trace”?
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:27 PM
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Really, the link works for me... Copy and pas the link in your search engine... 26 States do not require any type of training... I am not that good with computers but I tried to upload a picture of those states. Maybe it will work and maybe not.
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:34 PM
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More info on wikipeda...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concea..._United_States
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Really, the link works for me... Copy and pas the link in your search engine... 26 States do not require any type of training... I am not that good with computers but I tried to upload a picture of those states. Maybe it will work and maybe not.
Sorry. Iím not clicking any oddball links.

What is the trace? What are they saying besides some state donít require training?

We live in CA. CA requires training.
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:39 PM
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Sorry. Iím not clicking any oddball links.

What is the trace? What are they saying besides some state donít require training?

We live in CA. CA requires training.
I already mentioned CA requires 8 hour class and 30 shots down range... Do a search for states that do not require any training to carry...
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I already mentioned CA requires 8 hour class and 30 shots down range... Do a search for states that do not require any training to carry...
Who cares? Responsible people behave responsibly.
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I have way more than that in the past 10 mounts I have over 3,000 through my Shield and in the last three weeks over 1,000 through my P365.

How about yíall do you shoot your EDC?
Did some entity require you to do this?
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Who cares? Responsible people behave responsibly.
Apparently you do but don't want to take my word for it and to lazy to search for yourself ...
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Did some entity require you to do this?
I shoot for the enjoyment of it...
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:56 PM
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I shoot for the enjoyment of it...
Apparently you donít think anyone else does that too.

Whatís your point here? People donít shoot as much as you? People donít shoot enough? Other states should enact CA laws?

What?
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What the hell is your problem?

Initially I ask a simple question which was...

"How about y’all do you shoot your EDC?"

That's it and that's it for you, I'm done with you...
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Old 02-11-2019, 6:31 AM
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Donít do that. I have two Beretta 92 pistols, and they each shoot a little differently. Buy two different pistols, and shoot them both as much as you can. Youíre not likely to wear them out by shooting. Youíll get more holster wear than anything else.



Shoot the pistol that your going to carry, not lock in a safe.


This. Every gun has its own nuances. The goal is to know the gun you carry, not one thatís kind of like it.
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Do you shoot your EDC

You betcher bottomdollar I do. Why wouldn't you.

On average, every three months, and I put half a box of 230 grain HST through it, using the rounds that have been in the magazines during the course of the season then loading these three 7-round mags with fresh ammo.
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I shoot other 1911s far more often, as well as lever carbines and single-action whirlenpoppers.
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Watching a conversation between two popular You Tubers the other day they estimated the average EDC has less than 300 rounds through itÖ

I have way more than that in the past 10 mounts I have over 3,000 through my Shield and in the last three weeks over 1,000 through my P365.

How about yíall do you shoot your EDC?
I put about 20 rounds a month of factory SD ammo through my EDC to test functionality, and an occasional IDPA match.
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I don't list any gun on my license or carry one that is not fun to shoot. So, yes, I shoot them all the time I am at the range (as well as many that are not listed).

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I don’t shoot my EDC guns because I don’t want to worry about barrel failure. It appears that many people replace Glock barrels straight from the factory with Zev? Something about Gucci Glocks outlasting factory Glocks. Therefore, I only shoot mine for qualifications when needed. I don’t want my Glock to fail me when I need it most

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Not as much as I would like to (Bad weather lately) ...HK P30sk V1 lem
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I'm very proficient with an Airweight revolver.
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I am pleased to see so many that actually do put some rounds through their pistols. I assumed as much here as anyone that frequents a forum like this more than likely would use their pistols
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I am pleased to see so many that actually do put some rounds through their pistols. I assumed as much here as anyone that frequents a forum like this more than likely would use their pistols


Many people here have guns they have never even fired some pistols they own for many reason. Some shoot a lot some donít.

That would include EDC as well
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I shoot my EDC ever other range trip (or so), my confidence is very hi with this piece.

I also only shoot one load with defense ammo, as it shoots exactly like my range fodder.

I do shoot all my CCW weapons on occasions, feel good about all of them, don't carry them all though, but can if I chose.
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Yes, I do shoot my EDC and defensive arms regularly.

IMO everyone should be shooting their defensive arms with their defensive ammo regularly so they have 100% confidence in their equipment.
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I would like to shoot my defensive ammo Federal HST 150g micro more often but at $1.50 per round vs. .16 per round I just can not afford to shoot it all that often.
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I used mine as often as I can.

Because I've got two G19 and G30s on my license, I alternate which of each I use at any given time. Some ranges frown upon ripping a concealed gun out at the range

There is no way I would rely upon using just one of them. I want to be 100% certain they work.

I also shoot at least two magazines of my chosen defensive ammo to ensure it still is happy with my guns.
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they wouldn't be locked in a safe. Glock 19 (for the sake of the argument) #1 would be the training gun, 100's of rounds a month + classes + etc; g19 #2 (configured identically to #1) would be the carry gun, maybe 50 rounds a quarter.

I get that I'll not likely wear it out with shooting, but why put the extra miles on it or take the chance? Sure the EDC will get the 5,000 round inaugural torture test, but once you pop that cherry why do any more?

I don't get why some guys are so particular about their expensive defensive ammo that they cycle it through their gun before it's imaginary expiration date, but then you're gonna eat into its reliability by putting more rounds downrange for training? Find a known good condition, and stay there.
I have shot my carry G19 at least 850 documented rounds since the start of 2019, and this pace is not uncommon.

Shooting your EDC once a quarter just to "knock the dust off" is not a theory I would subscribe to.

Shooting often not only means I remain proficient, but it also means I'm taking care of the gun from a cleaning and maintenance perspective. Nothing worse than seeing someone's neglected "life saving device" because it's dry/dirty/rusted and never gets any attention.
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Every time I shoot I run at least two of the three options I carry. I am likely typical of most long time carriers.. I tend to carry the smallest the most a G .380. Kind of stupid not be real familiar with the weapon you might need the most.
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If you carry everyday the pistol / revolver should be at least checked for function on a regular basis. You never know when some sort of goo ball, lint or other obstruction might find it's way into your rig. When you need it is not the time to find out.
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My pocket 380's are fired at least once every two weeks. My main carry pistols, 9mm and 45 Shield, about once a month. Nice thing about living in Arizona is I can turn off the highway and drive to a desolate area to practice whenever the mood strikes.
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you're a fool if you do not
Especially using the ammo that you think will end up protecting you
Yes, this is the correct answer.
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.... Figured i'd get two of each pistol: one to train with, one to carry
Same thought. For each range trip, I'll shoot (edc) 20 rounds to make sure it is functioning then shoot the (twin) for the remaining time.
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I tend to shoot all of my EDC majority of the time at the range. Always bring many other options but they don't get the same attention, or trigger time.
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I know it’s been said over and over, but it cannot be understated. If you do not shoot your edc you are a fool asking for trouble.
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I found John's vid interesting. He offers some statistics on this subject...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?utm_ca...l4YSkQRm_YMlmA
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I shoot my EDC's every range visit and keep a journal of rounds fired through each firearm I shoot that day. I wish I could get to the range more but right now it's 8-10 times a year...
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Just requalified today. Been a loooong time since I have even shot a pistol. Been tied up with PRC in the limited trigger time I do get.
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Just requalified today. Been a loooong time since I have even shot a pistol. Been tied up with PRC in the limited trigger time I do get.
Do you recall what was different in the qualification protocol? Been some changes for '19 I guess...
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