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OK, the hockey one was damned funny.
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I think any one of the Dem candidates would go for an AW ban if elected. After these latest mass shootings, the Dems fake mantra of "Nobody wants to take your guns" is being tossed in the trash as the mask comes off.
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Ever. History has shown that.
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Few things just happened:
1. Democratic Hopeful Biden just lost support and potential votes 2. Buying spree just took off 3. Admitted he cant confiscate but will "make best effort" to get those guns off the streets. ...Well, JOE, they are not on the streets, they are safely at home. 4. Rest of the Democratic Hopefuls are now biting their tongues realizing their plan of confiscation and criminalization of gun owners is now officially out of the bag 5. we all get to laugh at Joe again. |
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Hey let's face it, nobody ever thought Trump would be Hillary Clinton. but he did. So the odds of one of these Jokers being elected is definitely a possibility. And then what happens?
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Add to that the prospect of cheating at the polls and there is a real danger. |
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Trump was a pro-choice, anti-2A NYC Dem for decades and reverts to that under pressure. He has no thorough grounding in the Constitution, Federalist Papers, or history, and follows the advice of Mike Pence and the few conservatives left in the White House only some of the time. He's still a spoiled brat with an inferiority complex and short temper.
He's not a Solomon and you're not going to get wisdom out of him. His post-Presidency book will be a golden toilet bathroom browser. He's still better than Hillary. Not much, but still better.
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Active Army 1976-1986, Army Reserve 2005-2015, Afghanistan 2010-2011 http://www.thepolemicist.net/2013/01...t-for-gun.html https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ “This decision is a freedom calculus decided long ago by Colonists who cherished individual freedom more than the subservient security of a British ruler. The freedom they fought for was not free of cost then, and it is not free now.” - Hon. Roger T. Benitez, United States District Judge, March 29, 2019 |
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There will be constitutional capitalist states and non-constitutional communist states, pick your poison. |
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Isn’t the government still selling them along with others thru the CMP? If so, shouldn’t they stop selling before they start confiscating? It would seem they are the biggest pushers of these.
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Beating UBC in court would be difficult. Best to kill it politically. Biden's statements help us defeat it. Perhaps not with the general public but with Congress.
Recall that the last time Toomey - Manchin got together they most likely could have gotten UBC through the Senate. But then VP Biden was asked if the bill would include registration to which he responded "of course". And that was the end of that. Registration killed UBC. UBC didn't fail on its own. The simple fact is one can't have enforceable UBC without registration. Because it's not ownership or the gun that's being checked, it's the transaction. If UBC passes without registration you can be certain of two things - First, this is all for show and nothing more. Second, it will take Democrats about 30 seconds to start squawking about loopholes and pushing specifically for registration. |
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I will wait and please provide a few link's to bolster your ridiculous statement. We need the links to determine exactly what kind of mindless drivel you read or watch. Thanx ! |
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WHAT A LOAD! Sorry, but can you imagine the judicial appointments the Hildabeast would have selected? Thousands of them. We wouldn't live long enough to see courts reach any semblance of balance! Every anti-gun legislation no matter how extreme would have been rubber stamped by those judges! We-would-have-been-well-boned!!! As it stands now we are seeing the ninth circus changing course, the NINTH circus! It needs more but it's getting there, the antis won't have the sure thing they once had that's for sure. Are you grasping the magnitude of this at all?
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The second amendment cannot have ANY restrictions on it if the amendment is to operate properly and safeguard the constitution and the other amendments. Judge owe their appointments to someone or some side and as such are no longer the impartial third party we hoped they would be. Someone once said judges can be corrupt but the judicial system is not. I beg to differ. Until the people living under various judges have the right to elect those judges rather than having them appointed by politicians we will always be fighting for our rights and lives. If you sit on the bench in Oakland california then the people of oakland should have the right to elect you as their judge. The system if flawed worse than it ever was. The ninth court of appeals is a prime example.
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Seems the government would also have to buy, at fair market value, the total inventory of manufactures, distributors, dealers, etc., including magazines and other associated parts.
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Trump is not one of the most pro gun presidents ever. He’s a Manhattan Democrat who helped get bump stocks banned, he wants suppressors banned, and he’ll sell out in 2020. Hope you guys like red flag laws.
We have no pro gun candidates from either party. Shall not be infringed means shall not be infringed. |
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Exactly, adding to my belief that everyone should have at least a few undocumented firearms. How one achieves that is another topic, but it is wise to consider it as part of your plans.
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That ship sailed in 1934. Congress and the Supreme's neutered it to mean anything they want it to mean.
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Trump is the most pro gun president ever. Hope you like your Bush appointee to the SCOTUS - the traitorous Roberts. |
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On the plus side, Biden's (or any of the others who have proposed) confiscation plan will fast-track a SCOTUS ruling on whether or not governments can arbitrarily ban and confiscate whatever they want. Might settle this whole debate once and for all - sort of like "Obergefell v. Hodges" did for gay marriage - notice how nobody argues about whether that's constitutional or not anymore? Because SCOTUS spoke - the end... Next issue, please.
Our problem for the last several decades has been that SCOTUS hasn't felt compelled to decide on such a matter. This would very likely make them reconsider that.
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Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do. |
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If, big if, Trump loses and the Democrats win a U.S. Senate majority, that will kick off the mother of all gun panics between election day 2020 and the day such a gun ban actually becomes law.
I expect 10 times more rifles will be bought during that panic, than will ever be confiscated by the Feds new ban. Good job anti-gun idiots. Good job!
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Crazy uncle Joe is an idiot "You can't buy a bazooka. You can't have a flame-thrower." is an infringment and violates the 2A. The founders meant for all citizens to have access to military grade weapons to defend the country from invaders and their own personal liberties from an over reaching government.
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So...
Where might our new socialist masters erect the labor camps, for housing the million or more people imprisoned for violating the new rifle ban? Alaska? Nah. Too expensive. Nevada? Nah. Too close to concentrations of potential insurgents. How about Puerto Rico? Or some other island Federal territory? Oh yeah, that's how they will do it. An American 'devils island' for "reeducating" our new class of political prisoners and other such "deplorables"!
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Guns don't kill people, Democrats kill people Last edited by gunsandrockets; 08-31-2019 at 7:07 PM.. |
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this country will go to war before the people will allow something like "camps". New York was a major force behind the last civil war in 1861 right or wrong and will be behind this one along with California but there are a lot more states an people to contend with. We have too many vets and too many veteran families that had loved ones who died to defend this country. If the liberals want a war they will find it once they piss off most of America. Just my opinion
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The one problem with this and MEGSDAD's quote above yours, is that yes...they are undocumented firearms, but where would you be able to practice or shoot them? They'd sit in the safe for SHTF or the Men in Black suits, but practicing with them would be very risky. What happens if you got caught with them? Worse...had to defend yourself with them? Yes, you kill the bad guy and save your family and all your neighbor's kids at your little kid's sleepover, but then you go to prison because s***head "has rights". Then, in this miserable state, your family is sued civilly and they get $$$. Makes me sick to think that good folks who like their hobby and self defense are having it denied to them by people in power who are only reacting out of emotion. I'm just waiting on my retirement. Then, I leave. 7 or so more years.
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There frankly is not enough manpower to cover 33M people to verify or confiscate firearms. Bigs words but no way to implement such policies. Last edited by Harry Ono; 08-31-2019 at 6:49 PM.. |
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laboratories of democracy?
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Because of recent laws, it is estimated that there are about one million residents of New Jersey in violation of the new magazine ban. And apparently there are one million New York residents in noncompliance with registration of "assault weapons". But where is the enforcement?
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It may be the first time i am thankful that so many people are breaking the law and hanging on to their second amendment rights even if it is so-called illegal. You can bet the left has plenty of fire power hidden way and it is up to the right and middle classes to maintain their own stash. i don't think Biden is offering a second civil war except with his mouth. he does not have the guts but he would not mind wasting a million police lives to do his dirty work for him. We need to work the polls, the recall petition for Newsom, and work together and vote together.
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