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Lots of interesting details/speculation/expert opinion in this article.
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The low odds of it being stage 1 -- 2 separate spontaneous lung CAs of approx the same size ("nodule" means under 3cm/1"), in a non-smoker white collar office worker (vs industrial blue collar) -- makes me bet they're either two lung CAs of the same type (stage 2) (unlikely) or metastasis from one of her previous CAs. Either way, it still sounds like chemo is in her near future and I pray she retires. ETA: Reposting for context: Quote:
ETA2: this new article makes a claim that I haven't read anywhere else: that the CA was not found in her lymph nodes. I don't know if Dr. Siegel is arguing from silence or if the other articles ignored it for some reason. Siegel uses the article to plug his book.... Quote:
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She has had chemo before. I guess that means her Colon cancer was also stage 2. Quote:
According to the above research , she has a %48 chance of survival for 1 year. |
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I hope we hear the pathology reports soon. If they are good they’ll be parading them out and remind us of her workout routine yet again.
If we aren’t hearing anything when we should be and it’s just ominous radiosilence, that’s probably not good for her. I suspect Wednesday-Friday we should hear more. They’ll skip releasing the report on Christmas. It’s been 3 days since the lobectomy, so this is right about the time we should be getting more news. |
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Can you provide a better study, I didn't look too hard. It does category by stage it's just not typical stages.
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Anyways it's all speculation at htis point and like I said, what happens in the next 18 months is far more important than 5 years (the way things are going politically). |
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Good news for the mummified leftist hag in a robe.
https://www.courthousenews.com/justi...ancer-surgery/ Quote:
Which is bad news for 2A. Another solid "AS WRITTEN" conservative Trump appointee would go far to offset Robert's leftist leanings. |
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Here's the relevant quote: Quote:
Average "progressive" (aka Liberal) readers will think "OMG! She's up on her feet and toiling away, working again. What an amazing and inspiring womyn! (sic)" The average conservative will read it that same way as you did and think "OMG! Will You never drive a stake through her? She's like the Terminator!" Both readings and both effects are what the MSM is after: encouraging and motivating the Left while discouraging and despiriting the Right with psychological warfare, mere words.... Now read it again keeping in mind that virtually ALL Hollywood, Madison Ave, and the MSM are anti-American (i.e., anti conservative), propaganda mills. It did NOT say she was up on her feet, only that she was "up". That, IMO, means she was "up in bed," no longer laying flat (increased risk of fluid buildup in lungs and pneumonia). Next, it said she was "working." What does that mean? Reading it, once again, as Leftist propaganda that could be as little as after sitting up in bed she signed some Court order, or read some memo from the other justices or read part of a cert request. Keep your eye on the ball: we don't care about the 5 year survival rate with her type of CA/s, we just want her -- or any other anti -- off the bench and out of the Court ASAP. Hopefully, required chemo with loss of lung capacity will be sufficient to do that. Personally, I hope her a happy and healthy retirement filled with plenty of time to ponder the ancient writings about Moses & the Prophets as well as about Jesus & the Apostles.... ETA: there's another option for her I won't post publicly....
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The up on her feet thing doesn't mean anything to me. Patients are encouraged to get up and be mobile after a few days. This is pretty routine. There can still be complications from the surgery, the pathology reports haven't come back, and we don't know what this will do to her overall health in the next few months.
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Yeah, very likely will not retire. Probably has no other life to retire to.. Any future appointments will be critical now that Chief Justice Roberts is swinging to the left and pissed off at Trump's concept of the SCOTUS.... "Obama Judges/Trump Judges"... DEMS controlling the House. RINOS in the Senate and a left swinging "conservative" Judge... Not good.
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Looks like RBG was discharged yesterday, on Christmas Day.
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But what we really care about is the final pathology report on those 2 nodules. They should have that before this Saturday. BTW in the video in the CNN link, their MD emphasizes that they waited 6 weeks after finding the nodules to perform the surgery and says that shows they didn't think it was urgent, that she could schedule it around her Court schedule. What he does NOT mention is that they could have been waiting for her ribs to heal -- so that she can breathe deeply and fully without pain -- before performing the surgery that would take away 1/5th of her lung capacity. ETA: Here's the "conservative" timeline I worked out earlier this week. I've updated it by crossing out what's taken place. Quote:
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I wouldn’t take the five day pathology report to mean much. Procedure was Friday, then we had the weekend, and Christmas. Labs close and if this wasn’t urgent like the doctor said then I wouldn’t think much of it. If it’s radio silence all through this week and part of next then that might be significant.
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I don’t think the pathology or prognosis will matter.
She’s a “die-hard” progressive, and she will die hard. If the Docs give her 1 year without treatment, she’ll take it. Six months would work. She’s beat cancer twice; she’ll believe she can beat it again, regardless of the Docs’ prognosis. She won’t walk away, knowing that it means she’ll be replaced. Watching her public persona for the past year, I have no doubt that 95% of “her work” is produced by clerks hired in her progressive mold. Members of the Court and staff will grant her deference and allow great leeway at this time. If she needs treatment to prolong her viability, she will strategize treatment to start in 4 months. If she can hold out until April, from May through June, the Court only convenes to hand down orders and opinions. Then, they’re off until October. Court Calendar She could start palliative treatment designed to forestall the disease in April (the Docs won’t like this); depending on the type of treatment, the impact would become noticeable in May, but the major work of the Court is done. She could discontinue treatment in September and return in October for the new session, weakened, but in place. At that point, she just needs to hold on through Jan 2020, and we’re firmly into the election cycle. She’ll have strategized with Schumer and Harris and Feinstein and other progressives to map out the delay strategy. If she drops at that time, any R move to force feed another candidate onto the bench before Nov will put a number of Senate seats at risk. There are 22 “R” Senate seats in contention in Fall 2020. Any effort to seat a new justice during 2020 before the elections will result in significant election turmoil, and the Dems need to flip only 4 of the 22 if they don’t carry the White House. Politicians are survivors, and they know that if they are voted out, they have no ability to form policy. They play a long game of many election cycles. They’ll take a safe route and not push a replacement Justice. If they do seat a new Justice, the rationale will be, “But, we got another conservative on the court”. Yeah, great, but you’ve lost the Senate, House and White House for the next generation (or two). Not to mention the state elections which will turn. RGB will stay to the end. Christmas is over...no more gifts.
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The senate map for 2020 doesn't look all that bad actually. There is Doug Jones, who will likely lose his seat on the Dem side. Then you have Collins, Gardner, and McSally on the GOP side as toss ups. Also Trump is on the ballot this time, which would make it harder for the Dem's to pick up seats. They lost big in the toss up seats in 2018. It's obviously too far out to make good predictions, but it doesn't look like certain defeat.
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Modern immune therapies could keep her alive for a long time. I had a friend who was given a few months to live by doctors, she got onto some immune therapy, and she was kept alive for 3 years. Her quality of life was very poor, she could hardly walk, but she was alive. Just sayin'.
And ... sorry to ruin everyone's Christmas, but... liberals are talking openly about packing the court the next time they have control. Nothing stops them from appointing ten new justices, who will find that everyone in the world has a right to come to the US and apply for asylum, and... it's the end of America as a western, first world nation, and also the end of all our western, first world freedoms. We are at the edge of this, a situation where there is no political path forward.
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I don't think so. The house typically flips off the Presidents party in the mid terms after a new president is elected. So the house win for the dems should not have been surprising. It would have been surprising if they GOP kept the house.
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But, McSally is a worry. She’s a prolific fund raiser, and, who doesn’t like Close-Air Support fighter pilots? But, her election history isn’t spectacular. In 2012, she lost a House race by 1400 votes; 2014, she lost again, by 167 votes. In 2016, she was swept into office by a 14% margin. I guess that’s progress. Then, in 2018, she lost her Senate bid to a Dem. She’s only in office now as a (second) appointed placeholder. I suspect the Dems will heavily target her in 2020, and I hope she can withstand the onslaught. If she does, she then has to stand for general election in 2022.
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True, but my response was in regards to the statement, “...it only helped energize their (GOP) base...,” but even with that energized base, we still lost the House.
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We kept the senate, the house loss not huge by historical standards. So the energized base did help.
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Did it lose us the house or did it win us more seats in the Senate? The post-hoc ergo propter hoc argument could just as easily apply to it "winning" us the senate, but you latch on to the negative and ignore the positive possibility.
I still agree with OffWidth. A new justice is more important (I would contend, even if it cost us the house) |
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I'm assuming that she learned from Scalia and is not napping at any parties hosted by Republican fund raisers.
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RBG had cancer 1999, 2009, almost 2019. So assuming she has cancer cells floating around causing cancer in different tissues , like her lungs, then it means it might take another 10 years before it becomes a serious issue.
2009 till almost 2019 and she just has two small tumors. Next stop 2029, she may die from something else in the mean time. Mean time Trump is out of office 2025 at the latest. |
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She also isn’t hunting quail with Pence.....
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I thought, a long time ago, we learned you can’t save the village by burning it.
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I wonder if, like when she went into the hospital for this surgery they did not tell us ahead of time, they'll not say anything until an announcement that she's begun (or completed) chemo therapy for X cancer. "Silence speaks" volumes in this case....
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Prognosis doesn't matter. Unless she becomes too sick to work (she has been working in the hospital), she will leave the Court in a hearse or a coroner's van.
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Pathology reports should have been ready by Wednesday. Tumor was removed a week ago, then the weekend, then Christmas holiday. I'm sure the testing was rushed since she is such an important person. Strange we haven't heard yet.
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I guess SCOTUS has a deadline to say something. IIRC, there are oral arguments on January 07. If Ginsburg isn’t present, they’ll have to explain why. After all, the MSM keeps harping on how she’s never missed orals in her 27 years on SCOTUS.
If she’s not in attendance the question is how many orals can a justice miss, or cases not participate in, before they should resign? Regardless, for us, IMO, no news re final pathology report, is “good news.” |
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Shameless, but relevant, cross posting....
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Good BBC article going over the basics of chemotherapy:
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-44348551
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