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Old 10-15-2019, 3:28 PM
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Thoughts please:

I've prepared my gc statement. The only firearm I have that I can put on the license is a m&p9. (Suitable only for off body) I intend to purchase something smaller to carry on body.

Should I apply now, "while the getting is good" and then add the other gun later, or buy the other gun now so, in 10 or so days, I can put it on my initial application and apply then.

This is my only hesitation in applying, as I only recently learned of this change in sonoma county.

What would you do?
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Old 10-15-2019, 3:49 PM
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Thoughts please:

I've prepared my gc statement. The only firearm I have that I can put on the license is a m&p9. (Suitable only for off body) I intend to purchase something smaller to carry on body.

Should I apply now, "while the getting is good" and then add the other gun later, or buy the other gun now so, in 10 or so days, I can put it on my initial application and apply then.

This is my only hesitation in applying, as I only recently learned of this change in sonoma county.

What would you do?
Apply now. You can add the other gun if you have it in time to qualify with it when you take you class. The instructors will just add it to your certification and the CCW Coordinator, Alicia, will add it to the permit when you turn the cert in.

Additionally, Alicia doesn't submit the CCW information to the state immediately. You can add one after you receive your permit if you can qualify with it before she turns in the paperwork at no charge. If you wait, you will still need to qualify and you'll have to pay the fee. I think it's around $85. This is what she told me, but YMMV.

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Old 10-15-2019, 4:30 PM
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Apply now. You can add the other gun if you have it in time to qualify with it when you take you class. The instructors will just add it to your certification and the CCW Coordinator, Alicia, will add it to the permit when you turn the cert in.

Additionally, Alicia doesn't submit the CCW information to the state immediately. You can add one after you receive your permit if you can qualify with it before she turns in the paperwork at no charge. If you wait, you will still need to qualify and you'll have to pay the fee. I think it's around $85. This is what she told me, but YMMV.
Awesome. That was very helpful.
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Old 10-17-2019, 9:42 AM
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Sonoma Co folk who are/have been in contact with the Sheriff's Office can you contact them again and ask them to post Sheriff Essick's new Good Cause policy? They've still got the highly restrictive old one online and that probably discourages a LOT of people from applying or even inquiring. For the vast majority of potential applicants they'd have to get approved under (a) or (b).

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GOOD CAUSE FOR ISSUANCE:

The applicant must establish that there is good cause for the Sheriff to issue a California Concealed Weapons (CCW) license in the County of Sonoma. The defensive benefit of carrying a concealed firearm in public must be weighed against the risk of surprise to law enforcement, the risk of avoidable and dangerous conflict escalation in a public setting, and the risk to general public safety that discharging firearms poses to law enforcement and bystanders alike; therefore, the Sheriff has determined that good cause to issue a CCW license will generally only exist in conditions of necessity. Accordingly, applicants should be able to provide convincing evidence of the following:

(a) There is an existing and significant threat of death or grave bodily injury to the applicant, or his/her immediate family, which cannot be reasonably avoided or adequately dealt with by existing law enforcement resources, and which threat would be significantly mitigated by the carrying of a concealed weapon.

(b) The applicant establishes that circumstances exist requiring him or her to transport in public significant amounts of valuable, or inherently dangerous property, which would be impractical to entrust to the protection of an armored car or equivalent service for the safe transportation of valuables.

(c) The applicant is currently employed by a security firm having all requisite licenses, and provides satisfactory proof that his or her work is of a nature that requires the carrying of a concealed weapon in public.

(d) The applicant is a duly appointed Sonoma County Reserve Deputy as defined in Penal Code 830.6.

(e) The applicant is a member of the magistrate either presiding and/or residing in the County of Sonoma.
From: https://www.sonomasheriff.org/ccw
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Just wondering what is needed to be in a good moral character statement. Do the people need to be local?
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Old 10-21-2019, 9:19 PM
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Just wondering what is needed to be in a good moral character statement. Do the people need to be local?


Just skimming over the GMC section at: https://www.sonomasheriff.org/ccw
I don't see where they say to provide a GMC "statement." Does it say to provide that somewhere else? If so, please direct me to it.

If you're referring to the 3 character letters, I'd assume the SO wants them to address these issues about you:

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MORAL CHARACTER / GOOD JUDGEMENT

Applicants must demonstrate that they have a history of using sound judgment, and that their everyday lives are unsullied by traits that may impair their ability to safely handle a firearm, under stress, in a public setting. A determination as to one's moral character and judgment is discretionary, and based on the totality of the applicants qualifications presented on a case by case basis. Factors or traits which will bear negatively on issuance are:

(a) A long-term history of mental or emotional instability, alcoholism, drug use or addiction to controlled substances.

(b) A history of fault in serious accidents with firearms, automobiles or other dangerous instruments / equipment.

(c) A history of citations, arrests, convictions, civil law suits, employment discharges, license denials, license revocations or other actions indicating a possible propensity for violence, moral turpitude, dishonesty, or carelessness with weapons.
I'd also assume they'd prefer county residents as references since BGs will lie for BG friends. They want to be able to check on your references' backgrounds, for both what's on the record and for things that didn't rise to arrest/charges against them. The SO needs to know they're trustworthy in what they say about you (that you're trustworthy for CCWing).
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Old 10-22-2019, 7:36 AM
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Yes I was asking about the three MC letters.
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Old 10-22-2019, 8:02 AM
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Yes I was asking about the three MC letters.
I had Sonoma County residence write mine. They were all about three paragraphs long. They talked about how long they have known me, their first hand knowledge of my ability to handle a firearm safely and responsibly, their believe that I an physically, mentally, emotionally sound and responsible enough to be able to carry a firearm.
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I had Sonoma County residence write mine. They were all about three paragraphs long. They talked about how long they have known me, their first hand knowledge of my ability to handle a firearm safely and responsibly, their believe that I an physically, mentally, emotionally sound and responsible enough to be able to carry a firearm.
2 of my letters were from marin county and 1 from sonoma county.
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