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Old 06-29-2020, 10:27 AM
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Default Visiting from AZ - Few Questions

Hey everyone,

I used to love living in Cali but moved to az a couple years ago and have a few questions about coming back to Cali for a few days visit with guns. I plan on going shooting with family/friends a day or so:

1. All guns I bring have to be 10 round magazines or Under still correct?

2. If I bring ammo to use that is fine, but I cannot give any of it to family or friends correct?

3. If I wanted to bring a AR to shoot, is that even possible as mine are regular with no bullet buttons.

4. For a family gift of a handgun - it has to be shipped to a FFL to do a DROS Transfer correct?

Thank you ahead of time!
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Hey everyone,

I used to love living in Cali but moved to az a couple years ago and have a few questions about coming back to Cali for a few days visit with guns. I plan on going shooting with family/friends a day or so:

1. All guns I bring have to be 10 round magazines or Under still correct?

2. If I bring ammo to use that is fine, but I cannot give any of it to family or friends correct?

3. If I wanted to bring a AR to shoot, is that even possible as mine are regular with no bullet buttons.

4. For a family gift of a handgun - it has to be shipped to a FFL to do a DROS Transfer correct?

Thank you ahead of time!
Thanks for numbering those ...

1 - yes

2 - it's PC 30312 - this transfer
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(10) A person who purchases or receives ammunition from a spouse, registered domestic partner, or immediate family member as defined in Section 16720.
is exempt from using an ammunition vendor to facilitate the transfer; 16720 is
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(a) Parent and child.

(b) Grandparent and grandchild.
3 - can't bring those as described ('bullet buttons' no longer have any influence on legality).

4 - correct.
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Old 06-29-2020, 11:00 AM
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^ This would be the person to listen to. I'm not sure about the ammo either.
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Wise Librarian, thank you for explaining this.

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"immediate family" has a specific definition - see Librarian's post. On #4 - yes any transfer from out of state has to go through an FFL, "family" or "gift" is not relevant on that point. As it is a handgun, there is the also roster issue, and if the gifter/giftee is not of the "immediate family" definition, the handgun must be on the roster.
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Re #4, are you mistaken about the gifted gun needing to be "shipped" to the FFL? While a FFL must be used for a transfer between residents of different states, can a CA FFL permit the out of stater to bring the gun in?
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You can bring a handgun that is ca legal and go to ffl here in ca if intrafamilial transfer for off roster or transfer for sale for on roster. Need not be family member for on roster.
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Re #4, are you mistaken about the gifted gun needing to be "shipped" to the FFL? While a FFL must be used for a transfer between residents of different states, can a CA FFL permit the out of stater to bring the gun in?
All the FFL near me require shipment from an out of state FFL, so check with the FFL you want the transfer to go through.
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Find an ffl familiar with this. If ffl requires shipping from another ffl then keep looking.
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Thanks a lot for your replies everyone especially Librarian! I’ll call the FFLs around his area and see what they say, bringing a handgun in to transfer would be easiest but if I have to ship it so be it.
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Thanks a lot for your replies everyone especially Librarian! I’ll call the FFLs around his area and see what they say, bringing a handgun in to transfer would be easiest but if I have to ship it so be it.
Yes, Wheelock added the proper refinement to my answer. 'Shipping' is not legally required, but some FFLs want it that way.
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