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Old 05-03-2021, 5:59 PM
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Default Out of state seller. Off roster question

Hi would an out of state seller from vegas be able to drive to ca and transfer a off roster gun to a ca resident on a ppt?

My first guess is no because ca hates us.
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Old 05-03-2021, 6:35 PM
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As Milsurp said no. A PPT is 2 California residents meeting at FFL.

Off roster refers to handguns. You are posting in the rifle section.

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As Milsurp said no. A PPT is 2 California residents meeting at FFL.
That’s the key here.

If it were that easy, the marketplace wouldn’t be how it is.
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If the receiver/ buyer was exempt they could meet at ffl and purchase would be done as an out of state transfer, whatever the process, but not a ppt. You pay sales tax.
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If seller is willing to drive, he/she can ship to your FFL and drive here to collect the funds in person.
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If seller is willing to drive, he/she can ship to your FFL and drive here to collect the funds in person.
That ain't gonna work for an off-roster handgun......
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That ain't gonna work for an off-roster handgun......
Yeah missed the off roster part, my bad.

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Hi would an out of state seller from vegas be able to drive to ca and transfer a off roster gun to a ca resident on a ppt?

My first guess is no because ca hates us.
It would be a violation of federal law to do that. It is not because "CA hates us."
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It would be a violation of federal law to do that. It is not because "CA hates us."
Oh didn't know federal law also doesn't let people transfer from different states using a ffl face to face. But they let you mail it?
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Oh didn't know federal law also doesn't let people transfer from different states using a ffl face to face. But they let you mail it?
Only to a willing FFL, who would do the transfer.

See also

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1629922

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=503873
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Hi would an out of state seller from vegas be able to drive to ca and transfer a off roster gun to a ca resident on a ppt?
CA unsafe handgun laws prohibits a CA FFL dealer from transferring an off-Roster handgun to a non-exempt person.

Exemptions that can be utilized are:
A. PPT.
B. LEO sale.
C. C&R firearm.
D. out-of-state intra-familial gift.
E. out-of-state operation-of-law transfer.

PPT = private party transfer that is between two CA residents that are meeting face-to-face at a CA FFL dealer, who will be facilitating the transfer.
~If the firearm is shipped, then it's not a PPT.
~If one the parties involved is a non-resident of CA, then it's not a PPT.

Since the transfer you are inquiring about is from a NV resident, this transfer does not meet the PPT exemption.
So, another type of exemption (LEO sale, C&R, etc) needs to be utilized in order for the CA FFL dealer to be able to legally transfer the off-Roster handgun.
If no other exemption can be utilized, then the off-Roster handgun can not be legally transferred.
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