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Old 01-04-2014, 11:26 PM
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Ok so I'm new to guns and have been asking this question for a while, why is everyone hoarding/stocking up on 22 like there is no tomorrow? I mean, of all rounds to choose from why the 22? I know it's cheap but when push comes to shove, I'm sure your not gonna grab your 22 over something bigger. I personally have about 1,000 rounds and am comfortable with that amount. So tell me, why do you hoard 22?
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:47 PM
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I think because it can't be reloaded. So if there is a tax or whatever it can help you get out of it or whatever.
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How much do you shoot in 6 mos? That is all I buy when I get down to 2 mos. left.

I think if folks did this, things would not be so bad.

But then we just got into guns a year ago, so we, like many, are a new demand on ammo.
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I think there are a few variables that causes the .22 shortage... Firstly, Price of .22 is much cheaper to shoot and practice with and the other main reason is the popularity of the .22 AR platform. Also, people probably hoard because of fear of not being able to find .22 ammo which makes it a cyclical problem.
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+1 to what speedracer said. It's cheap, and when it's available it's best to get as many as you can because you won't know when you'll be able to get it again.
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Also, 22 Is a great round for taking small game without causing a ton of damage.

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Because it's not hard to shoot 500 rounds of 22 in a short range session.
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Because as a whole we are self destructive?
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Because it's not hard to shoot 500 rounds of 22 in a short range session.
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To me it seems like there is no one reason. However that doesn't mean there isn't a reason that is most popular for people to hoard. I would say the number one reason for people to hoard and stock is that its cheaper than almost any other caliber bullet out there. So its easier to buy larger quantities.

If there are more people buying larger quantities it creates a whirlpool reaction. The ammo plants cant keep up with our demand. Period. Ultimately a shortage happens which in the long run drives up prices, aka economics, blah blah blah. Well you then could ask why did people start buying more than they can shoot in one sitting. Well that's because of the damn media and the state of our political fight against gun control. You have a couple shootings here and there and some laws in the works and people think guns and ammo are going to be outlawed tomorrow. That makes people buy for the long term while its available and cheap.

For example, If you herd gas might go to $10 per gallon next week what would you do? I'm guessing you'd buy as much gas as you could hold and store. Its the same thing. No one wants to get left paying top dollar for something because of a stupid law or tax that might get passed in the future. Its not about people wanting to be prepared for dooms day when they are on their zombie hunt through urban San Diego. Its the fact that our freedom is being compromised and people are scared laws will be passed which will cost them more money in the long run.
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Many new .22 owners out there. I went from zero to three .22 rifles in 3 months. My two boys can plow through a brick faster than water sinks through sand. Many have bought dedicated AR uppers too to offset the costs of shooting .223. It is of my humble opinion that there are several reasons for increased demand.

1. Hoarding mentality - genuine fear of shortage, price increase, or future taxes.
2. Increase interest in entry level rifles/pistols from new gun owners in the "Great Scare of 2013".
3. The AR crowd who bought the dedicated .22 uppers or the AR style .22 rifles.
4. Cheapest ammo option for low budget shooters and there are many of us who have less discretionary income than we had in the past. Economy sucks.
5. The pissing contest crowd that has to have more than the next guy, just because.
6. Flippers, etc. I had to sell 6000 rounds due to an unexpected financial issue, but I did not gouge. In some cases I pretty much sold it for what I paid when shipping or taxes were considered.

For the record I consider myself to be in groups 1, 2, 3, 4.
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I shoot .22lr regularly, as in weekly. I've been doing so since the 70's. I've never seen it so difficult to simply walk into a store & buy some, as in a BRICK OR TWO. I sold 5-10k rounds at decent prices about a year ago & ended up with very low stock, I wont do it again. I don't consider myself a hoarder, not even close. As far as the "we" statements, speak for yourself please.
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There are multiple reasons people hoard .22 lr ammo, I keep plenty on hand so I can still shoot regardless of what kind of panic is going on in the gun industry. Also with a mail order ban looming around the corner in CA, I want to have at least a 5 year supply on hand.
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A case = 10 bricks. That's about 10 range sessions.

I can see every gun owner legitimately wanting to have several cases on hand to guard against the next hoarding epidemic. Not every gun owner has a rifle, shotgun, or 9mm, but chances are they each own a 22. (or at least the should...)
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Because people like the sight and smell of old decaying ammo in their closets.
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Because people like the sight and smell of old decaying ammo in their closets.
yup
still have same 6000-8000 rds since 2008
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Because the .22 is the common mans gun
when 22is bought up it is an indicator
the average public is responding to deep fears
of government intrusion
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Only a 1000 rounds? That is pathetic

I am not a hoarder. I am a well prepared individual in all aspects of life. Not just .22 ammo..I prefer to do things ahead of time. Not in hindsight..
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I do not hoard ammo....I like to have a reasonable reserve of the ammo I commonly use. Since I shoot a pre-woodsman woodsman and a High Standard Supermatic Citation, I try to have a brick or two of Aguila Pistol Match or other std. velocity .22. I shoot a Mossberg 44 and keep 1-2 bricks of Aguila Rifle Match or similar for that. I shoot a Colt/Umarex AR-15 so I keep 2-3 bulk boxes of Federal auto-match. I keep several bricks of other .22 ammo for everything else some rifles are tolerant of multiple brands others are a little bit fussy about the ammo that is shot from them.
Hoarding would be holding onto a case of everything I use....reasonable reserves are 1-2 bricks of my favorite brands and types of ammo

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i only have about 10,000 rounds rounds and I feel short.
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I don't hoard, I buy in bulk when it's on sale, which of course has not been for a while. I haven't had to buy any .22 at an greatly inflated price. I wait until some hoarder has to get off his ammo, because he can't afford to have his money tied up. I always have cash in the safe for ammo and gun buys. That's how you get he better prices, cash talks. I am with the others on how much you shoot in a session, 1K being about the norm when I have guests.
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Because without it, Your 22 firearm is a paper weight. We cant reload it so production is out of our control. I dont call it hoarding. I call it being prepared. Im sure the 5 cent tax on each round of ammo will spoken about again by some idiot and that will rekindle the fires again...
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Had a new shooter friend that just got a 22 rifle, gave him a box of 375 rds of 22LR to get him started. Dude blew through it in an hour. Don't think 1000 rds is enough OP. :P
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Don't know, but I'll slow down when I get to 100k rounds.

I have about 1,000. LOL Don't really have anything to shoot it out of other than the Wife's "new" Marlin 60. Time to stock up a bit, but only if I find it super cheap. Otherwise I'll wait.
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Because without it, Your 22 firearm is a paper weight. We cant reload it so production is out of our control. I dont call it hoarding. I call it being prepared. Im sure the 5 cent tax on each round of ammo will spoken about again by some idiot and that will rekindle the fires again...
This...combined with the threat of no mail order ammo coming anytime, the tax per round threat, and the fact that it's been over a year without any serious bump up in availability. I shoot on average twice a month, and use about 3-500 rounds of .22 when I do. The 15000 rounds I have in reserve will last a good long time at that rate. I don't have a problem with people flipping, it's their risk, and their reward. If I had no job, I'd be on it too. Family has to be taken care of first. No one is forcing you to buy the ammo. The fact that Gander Mtn han't had anything serious in almost two months is worrisome. They are one of the few that has a decent price, with decent limits.
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If you read the posts here about longer range shooting you have to shoot a 22LR for 3 years before you can advance to longer ranges with your 308.
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What do you mean by hoarding? 10 cases of .22 ammo is not hoarding.
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We all have different levels of being comfortable. Op you're comfortable at 1,000 rounds, I comfortable at 100,000 rounds. The scarcity, amount I shoot (every weekend) and the amount of new shooters I bring out dictate my comfort. In the last year I have gone through 15,000 rounds in the name of introducing new shooters(they love pulling that trigger). You may call100,000 rounds hoarding, I call it a guarantee that I can introduce new people into the activity we all love.
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Greed.

The new shooters with 22's theory does not explain why primers went scarce a few years ago. It does not explain why gunpowders (previously available) are scarce now, nor bullets.

Here is a simple question I've been asking the range officers ever since the first run on guns and ammo in 2008 - "With all the ammo sales recently you guys must be pretty busy right?" The answer almost invariably has been "No, business is the same."
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Because the .22 is the common mans gun
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I hunt pest animals and I have shot 10,000 rounds in one season. Lately I have slowed down to 1000 rounds on a weekend and only going out for 4-5 weekends. I don't hoard ammo but I will stock up on enough to last me through a bad year or two. For the weekend plinker 1000 rounds will do you just fine. for me not so much. The hunt challenge begins now in finding non-lead ammo to stock up on and have ready to go when the silly ban takes effect.
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Because perception became reality. Fear is a very effective tool.
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I'm down to my last 1k rounds. I would rather have 10k on hand.
For a couple of years I (like everyone else) was shooting more .22 because 9mm etc were expensive.
Now I'm shooting 9mm when I can because at least I can reload it, saving the .22 for the kids (who now tell me .223 is more fun ;-)
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So basically, because it's cheap and is easy to shoot?

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