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SBR Form 1 - CAA MCK
Has anyone had a form 1 approved for an MCK conversion kit? . I submitted mine for a S&W Shield Plus on 2/7. Looking at multiple forums but have yet to see any approvals
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Don?t these things take months up to over a year typically?
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It was submitted under the 120 amnesty rule. Was just wondering if anyone had been approved
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Ok thx
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Man I really want to like that thing but I can't get over that weird grip, mag holder, flash light, tumor looking thing protruding from the front.
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Normal eform 1's are about 40 days. No clue on the amnesty nonsense.
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Did you use the atf fingerprint paper or your local sheriff's?
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Finally received my approval from the ATF. It took 70 days. It's approved with conditions and you don't receive a stamp.
So my smith & season shield plus is now an SBR when inserted into the MCK conversion kit..once removed it magically turns back into a standard pistol again Sent from my LE2127 using Tapatalk |
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There's a guy that 3-D prints a gadget that's much more compact than a chassis. It has the optic mounted on the "frame" like most chassis, which tends to make it easier to shoot because it doesn't move with the slide.
This guy generally gives away the 3-D files. |
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Please show me a link to this ATF opinion. Thanks.
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https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/un...ter-2/download
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True, but a few caveats, hence my original post:
If you were to travel with the pistol out of the enclosure to a state that prohibits SBRs and you had a LE encounter, the firearm would come back as an SBR when they run the serial number. How this would play would be an unknown, especially in states like CA and WA. If you travel to an SBR friendly state, technically you would still need to file ATF form 5320.20. As a practical matter the odds of trouble with this is minimal, but the current ATF is not the ATF of 3 years ago. YMMV. The pistol is the SBR at all times as it is registered in the NFRTR as such. If you PERMANENTLY remove it from the enclosure, you would notify the ATF of this change by letter and they would make a notation in the NFRTR that the firearm is no longer in SBR status. I had a discussion with my firearms attorney this morning and he agreed with my assertions. . . .
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It's the same situation of putting a 16" barreled upper on an sbr AR. You don't have to file a 5320 because it's not an sbr at that point.
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You can legally sell it as a Title 1 firearm without going through the Form 4 route if you remove it from the chassis. In the unlikely event that the buyer would want to put it in another chassis to make it into an SBR again, you will have to first notify the ATF to remove it from the NFRTR.
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Director Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Attention: NFA Branch 244 Needy Road Martinsburg, WV 25405 *Date Here* RE: Removal of SBR from the NFRTR To Whom It May Concern: This is to advise the NFA Branch that the following SBR previously registered in the NFRTR has been permanently returned to Title 1 status by installation of a steel barrel extension that has been pinned and fusion welded. I request that the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record (NFRTR) be modified to reflect this change in status. Lastly, I am sending this letter in duplicate and request that one copy be returned along with acknowledgement that the NFRTR has been modified to reflect the change in status. Name of original manufacturer: **Manuf Type of firearm: SBR Caliber, Gauge or Size: **Caliber Model: *Model Serial number: **SN Thanks very much. **Your name / Address . . .
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