CA320 on Roster

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by franklinarmory

The last few days have been busy getting ready for SHOT. We have noticed overwhelming interest since the state placed the CA320 on the roster. I am confident we can meet demand because we have the qualified resources to scale production up dramatically. It is also my belief that Sig Sauer is very interested in fulfilling demand.

We will have 2 short term bottlenecks. Plastic has been ordered for molding in high volume. We did not invest in ready stock until we were sure it was on the roster. It is now on the way. Fixturing for mass production lasering and assembly will be worked on next week. It should be done by the time I get back from SHOT Show.

Rest assured that Franklin Armory will cover all warranty issues on this firearm.

Lastly, thank you all for looking at this project. This idea started many years ago when the P250 first came out. Due to changing laws and regulations, this project became a front burner item about 2 years ago. Now we are finally here!

Thanks for those updates. I had no idea you were thinking about this back when the 250 came out. I know we exchanged some words when Sig came out with the CW FCU. Thank you for all you do to help us get some hard to get items.

I already own a Sig P320, but I can't wait to get an FA CA320.

[SigSauerP226]

Originally Posted by Scratch705

Not everyone on here is making moneybags salary. I'm glad FA is bringing this market. And i do hope the pricing will lower as the market is filled with supply. At 950 + tax and dros the final price is in the 1060 range. Im sure some here balk at that as pocket change but for me that is half my yearly budget for gun stuff. So yeah ill comment on the high price cause I'm bummed I cant get one.

And I never said FA should price it lower. Only stated that I will have to wait to buy once it is cheaper.

I’m not sure this will affect the CA price of off-roster, the CA7 didn’t seem to lower the AR pistol market. Maybe this will be less debatable on the legality of making it semi? I might just go ahead and get one of these if Ventura SO will allow it on the CCW.

And would be able to get my hands on one before March/April when I renew haha

[classicman213]

Originally Posted by SigSauerP226

I’m not sure this will affect the CA price of off-roster, the CA7 didn’t seem to lower the AR pistol market. Maybe this will be less debatable on the legality of making it semi? I might just go ahead and get one of these if Ventura SO will allow it on the CCW.

And would be able to get my hands on one before March/April when I renew haha

The legality of making them semi-auto is ambiguous. However, if an issuing agency would allow a single action registered firearm to be added to a ccw permit if converted to semi-auto is not permissible. Spend the extra $ and purchase a legit Sig 320.

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[SigSauerP226]

Originally Posted by classicman213

The legality of making them semi-auto is ambiguous. However, if an issuing agency would allow a single action registered firearm to be added to a ccw permit if converted to semi-auto is not permissible. Spend the extra $ and purchase a legit Sig 320.

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What if it is in semi auto form before being on the permit? I’m assuming the whatever model is listed would likely need to stay in the form it comes from the manufacturer? Maybe it’ll differ from IA to IA, VCSO told me they didn’t have a problem with mods, just advised against super light triggers.

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by SigSauerP226

What if it is in semi auto form before being on the permit? I’m assuming the whatever model is listed would likely need to stay in the form it comes from the manufacturer? Maybe it’ll differ from IA to IA, VCSO told me they didn’t have a problem with mods, just advised against super light triggers.

There are things that can be done to have it listed as a semi-auto with the state.

You are correct on each IA having their own rules. San Bernardino says they have to match manufacture, model, serial # and caliber. I currently have a P320 listed on my permit. Bought it as a compact and carry it as a sub-compact right now. No issue because the manufacture, model, serial # and caliber all match what's in the state database.

[ar15barrels]

Originally Posted by SigSauerP226

What if it is in semi auto form before being on the permit? I’m assuming the whatever model is listed would likely need to stay in the form it comes from the manufacturer? Maybe it’ll differ from IA to IA, VCSO told me they didn’t have a problem with mods, just advised against super light triggers.

It only takes a couple PPT's to get it properly into your name as a semi-auto in AFS and that should cover all IA's regardless of what configuration it was first DROSed.

[Thrashard340]

Originally Posted by SigSauerP226

I’m not sure this will affect the CA price of off-roster, the CA7 didn’t seem to lower the AR pistol market. Maybe this will be less debatable on the legality of making it semi? I might just go ahead and get one of these if Ventura SO will allow it on the CCW.

And would be able to get my hands on one before March/April when I renew haha

The handgun market is much larger than the AR market. I can't tell you how many people I introduced to guns want a Gen 5 Glock or P320 only to find out they cannot buy one new. Then they balk at marketplace prices. Initially, not much will change unless supply on CA320 becomes abundant. When you are able to walk into an LGS and walk out 10 days later with a CA320, only then will you see marketplace pricing come down.

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by Thrashard340

The handgun market is much larger than the AR market. I can't tell you how many people I introduced to guns want a Gen 5 Glock or P320 only to find out they cannot buy one new. Then they balk at marketplace prices. Initially, not much will change unless supply on CA320 becomes abundant. When you are able to walk into an LGS and walk out 10 days later with a CA320, only then will you see marketplace pricing come down.

Well, according to FA. That should be about March or April. It's been reported that at least one dealer is taking pre-orders for them.

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by Superben104

Reno May just released a video on this.

I will be getting in line for this for sure!

Well done Franklin Armory.

https://youtu.be/nibjLt7HFQg

Question.

Top pic shows straight trigger-2nd pic down shows curved.

Which trigger does it come with?

I'm hoping straight!

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by LEAD LAUNCHER

Question.



Top pic shows straight trigger-2nd pic down shows curved.



Which trigger does it come with?



I'm hoping straight!

Did you watch the video?

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[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by morrcarr67

Did you watch the video?

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I did but in my excitement I guess I missed that part.

Production models will have straight trigger.

Thanks!

[BajaJames83]

Originally Posted by LEAD LAUNCHER

Question.

Top pic shows straight trigger-2nd pic down shows curved.

Which trigger does it come with?

I'm hoping straight!

Doesn't matter it takes 3 minutes to change it out any way and triggers are cheap

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by LEAD LAUNCHER

I did but in my excitement I guess I missed that part.



Production models will have straight trigger.



Thanks!

Reno was so excited and talking kinda fast. I had to rewind a couple of times.

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[CenterX]

this is a range toy. no way to ever get this on a ccw. but who cares. toys are interesting. tools are desirable and valuable.

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by CenterX

this is a range toy. no way to ever get this on a ccw.....

Apparently you have not read this whole thread...read it to see how it's done...

..

[classicman213]

Originally Posted by morrcarr67

Reno was so excited and talking kinda fast. I had to rewind a couple of times.

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If I were getting paid to talk about it, I would sound excited too

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[sumdood]

Is the safety like a 1911, click up = safe, or a beretta, click down = safe?

[BajaJames83]

Just like a 1911 up for safe, down off

[1911su16b870]

Single shot sled in a grip module w no magazine release!

[MuayThaiJJ]

I may have to get this one...

[robledor]

I will definitely be buying one, never really cared for it but... this is awesome how FA is basically flipping off the state. I love it. Don't need a new gun but definitely will buy ASAP.

[California_Deplorable]

Really like that this will come with the manual safety. Smart decision. Its easier to delete the safety, you have to cut the FCU to add a safety. I actually really like the manual safety on the P320.

[California_Deplorable]

I expect to see a lot of WTT ads in the marketplace so guys can get them DROS'd as semiautos.

[ECVMatt]

Hat's off to FA for doing this. I don't have a huge interest in the 320 Platform, but will buy one to support FA for sticking with us here in CA.

I can't wait to get one!

[axhoaxho]

Kudos to Franklin Armory for all the efforts to make the CA320 happens. Please take my money!

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by California_Deplorable

I expect to see a lot of WTT ads in the marketplace so guys can get them DROS'd as semiautos.

I wouldn't be surprised if the dealers selling them have a WTT sign up sheet in the store.

[ap3572001]

When someone buys a CA320, turns it into a P320 by replacing a grip module and buying magazines and wants it on their CCW, is it going to be listed as a Franklin Armory CA320 ? Or Sig Sauer P320? Just curios. Based on what I know , a CA320 is a SIG SAUER P320 with grip module that makes it a single shot. By replacing a grip module with one from Sig Arms and buying a magazine, one will end up with SIG SAUER P320. Unless I am missing something (?)

[sebasguns]

I am in for one. Thanks FA and keep thinking about these workarounds for other firearms.

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by ap3572001

When someone buys a CA320, turns it into a P320 by replacing a grip module and buying magazines and wants it on their CCW, is it going to be listed as a Franklin Armory CA320 ? Or Sig Sauer P320? Just curios. Based on what I know , a CA320 is a SIG SAUER P320 with grip module that makes it a single shot. By replacing a grip module with one from Sig Arms and buying a magazine, one will end up with SIG SAUER P320. Unless I am missing something (?)

You're missing something.

It's an FA CA320. It just will look like a Sig Sauer P320.

[SigSauerP226]

Ya I’d imagine the serial number will be specific to FA.

[DJMAN]

Good info here....

https://youtu.be/nibjLt7HFQg

[RikersBeard]

Nice!

Did my Hellcat just plummet in value?

[ugimports]

Originally Posted by ap3572001

When someone buys a CA320, turns it into a P320 by replacing a grip module and buying magazines and wants it on their CCW, is it going to be listed as a Franklin Armory CA320 ? Or Sig Sauer P320? Just curios. Based on what I know , a CA320 is a SIG SAUER P320 with grip module that makes it a single shot. By replacing a grip module with one from Sig Arms and buying a magazine, one will end up with SIG SAUER P320. Unless I am missing something (?)

Depending how it shows up on the DROS (I'm speculating Single Shot)... I can only imagine some agencies care that it was DROSd as a Single Shot (even if on roster), but what you will be shooting will be a semi-auto...

[Scratch705]

Originally Posted by morrcarr67

You're missing something.

It's an FA CA320. It just will look like a Sig Sauer P320.

Another analogy is, say you buy a bcm ar15. You swap the entire upper for a dpms.

If you now go sell the rifle, are you gonna list it as bcm or dpms?

Since the fcu is the "firearm" it doesnt matter what you change for grip or slide. The fcu is still a FA320 serial#

[ronlglock]

Franklin said the only way to get it on the roster was with a manual safety. Here you can see how it works. Unlike the one from 2A (without safety), 100% except for the grip module is SIG — including barrel and slide.

You swap the grip module, add some mags, put it on consignment for $1,500 and when it’s returned to you it is a P320.

To load, put a round on top of the plastic pillar then drop the slide.

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by ugimports

Depending how it shows up on the DROS (I'm speculating Single Shot)... I can only imagine some agencies care that it was DROSd as a Single Shot (even if on roster), but what you will be shooting will be a semi-auto...

Right, which is why you do a pawn and return as a semi auto or place on consignment as semi auto and get it back or your buddy PPT’s you his as a semi auto and you PPT yours to him as a semi auto. Or There are apparently a couple other ways you can do this.

Anyway point is now it’s in the dros system to you as a semi auto.

[classicman213]

Originally Posted by LEAD LAUNCHER

Right, which is why you do a pawn and return as a semi auto or place on consignment as semi auto and get it back or your buddy PPT’s you his as a semi auto and you PPT yours to him as a semi auto. Or There are apparently a couple other ways you can do this.



Anyway point is now it’s in the dros system to you as a semi auto.

Is there no concern that should someone defend themselves with such a weapon that's been "laundered" through the system, that DOJ won't trace back those steps...

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[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Originally Posted by classicman213

Is there no concern that should someone defend themselves with such a weapon that's been "laundered" through the system, that DOJ won't trace back those steps...

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Laundered?

And trace back for what purpose?

You used for defense a Ca. Rostered CA320 semiautomatic Pistol that is California registered/drosed to you, listed to you in the afs, and your IA approved it on your permit-what is the problem?

[2A2DEATH]

After confirming with Turner's it's going to be 930$ and they expect it around March 2023

My main question is legal California bull**** if changed grip module and add mag is there anything illegal about it I've been thinking and thinking but I don't see anything illegal going from single shot to regular

If in wrong please let me know

[2A2DEATH]

If things go as planned for Sig and Franklin armory I'm sure we will see the p365 next ca365